Linux-Advocacy Digest #353, Volume #34 Wed, 9 May 01 05:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (GreyCloud)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (GreyCloud)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (GreyCloud)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (GreyCloud)
Re: Windos is *unfriendly* (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Windos is *unfriendly* (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Windos is *unfriendly* (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Linux Users...Why? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Windows makes good coasters ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Linux Users...Why? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Linux Users...Why? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Double whammy cross-platform worm (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Why does Flatfoot feel so threatened? ("Edward Rosten")
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 07:57:46 +0200
T. Max Devlin wrote:
> begin
>
> Said JamesW in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 8 May 2001 12:17:59 +0100;
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>says...
>>> Note that this will not be readable just as is by the sucking
>>> newsreader JS PL is using.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> end
>>>
>> begin
>>^^
>>You need to put two spaces in front of the begin to fool OE. The
>>braindead newsreader expects an attachment - true if there was a
>>matching space-space-end somewhere after the space-space-begin. Since
>>there is no space-space-end working newsreaders ignore the begin and
>>display the text.
>>
>>OE thinking there is an attachment will displays a paperclip instead -
>>another M$ product that substitutes useless paperclips for
>>functionality...
>
> You mean like this? (I've already adjust for your correction that it is
> begin-space-space, not space-space-begin.)
>
> end
>
Yeah, I know about that space space. Somehow in composing that message
i managed to delete them without noticing.
Peter
--
There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 00:57:03 -0700
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said GreyCloud in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 07 May 2001 23:49:35
> >Steve Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> "Peter K�hlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Jan Johanson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > It continues to amaze me that the ONLY people having these sorts of
> >> > > absolute failures under Windows are linux users.
> >> > >
> >> > > Are linux users that univerally inadept at running Windows?
> >> >
> >> > Jan at his best, dumb and without any clue whatsoever.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure why you would call Jan dumb, I found his statement to be very
> >> close to the truth.
> >>
> >> > Did you ever think that the overwhelmng majority of these linux-users did
> >> > use windows before they switched or are still using it today in addition
> >> > to linux?
> >>
> >> You know, I once considered this. But then wouldn't these people actually
> >> have some knowledge of the product?
> >>
> >> > There your whole argument falls apart. But that was clear from the
> >> > beginning - you are simply a wintroll (saying by itself that you�re about
> >> > as dumb as a pile of horseshit)
> >>
> >> Wow, name calling. How vogue that must be.
> >>
> >> Jan is right, you are wrong. I think maybe you should learn to deal with
> >> that. Or better yet, crack the books open and start learning something so
> >> you can argue from an informed point of view.
> >
> >What I do know is that some CD burners don't work too well under windows
> >and then others do. One I know of my neighbor bought from Costco. The
> >burner software provided had a Y2K problem in it. I told him to take it
> >back and get an HP CD burner. That one worked fine for his needs.
>
> As briefly mentioned earlier, you really have to get a Plextor burner if
> you want to have a hope of burning CDs on Windows. Its a hardware
> function, then, and is pretty bullet-proof. If you don't have their
> technology, though, then you're taking your chances; even Linux can make
> a toaster on a bog-standard burner.
>
> >As far as Jans comments that ONLY linux users have this problem... he's
> >cruising for the Darwin of the year award.
>
> I know about "the Darwin Awards", but this 'Darwin of the year', thing,
> V, I don't know about that. Jan's just... a sock puppet.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
My fingers were getting tired... I meant to type "Darwin Award of the
year" for this ng.
Someday we'll all have to cast our votes.
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 00:59:46 -0700
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "Peter K�hlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jan Johanson wrote:
> >
> > > It continues to amaze me that the ONLY people having these sorts of
> > > absolute failures under Windows are linux users.
> > >
> > > Are linux users that univerally inadept at running Windows?
> > >
> > > I haven't had a bad CD since the last time I had a 2x write speed burner
> > > with 256 Kb buffer under Win95.
> > >
> > > Your system has to be so broken to fail a burn on a current gen burner -
> > > AND with the latest Burn-Proof technology people like Lite-on and
> > > Plextor use, it's literally impossible to fail the burn. You can pause
> > > the entire system with the pause key and the buffer can go to 0% for an
> > > hour and then resume and continue burning the CD flawlessly.
> > >
> > > Of course, I'm sure this support isn't in linux yet...
> > >
> > > Really people - at least learn how to setup and use an OS before
> > > attempting to disparage it.
> > >
> >
> > Jan at his best, dumb and without any clue whatsoever.
> > Did you ever think that the overwhelmng majority of these linux-users did
> > use windows before they switched or are still using it today in addition
> > to linux?
>
> I considered it but you are obviously too dumb and entirely clueless about
> what I wrote. Sure these linux users used windows before switching. It's
> these same lusers that couldn't make windows work for them that I'm talking
> about. I mean, how stupid does one have to be to fail to get Windows running
> right? My child runs it, children in 2nd grade install it successfully. My
> mother has installed it and used it successfully...
Thank you so much Jan! Us win-lusers just can't hack windows... it's so
hard to install. I'm sure glad I found Linux tho,... it just installed
and I was up and runnin' just fine!
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 01:01:31 -0700
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "surrender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:GsDJ6.9808$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <3af6917d$0$12278$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jan Johanson"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote something like:
> >
> > > It continues to amaze me that the ONLY people having these sorts of
> > > absolute failures under Windows are linux users.
> > >
> > > Are linux users that univerally inadept at running Windows?
> > >
> > > I haven't had a bad CD since the last time I had a 2x write speed burner
> > > with 256 Kb buffer under Win95.
> > >
> > > Your system has to be so broken to fail a burn on a current gen burner -
> > > AND with the latest Burn-Proof technology people like Lite-on and
> > > Plextor use, it's literally impossible to fail the burn. You can pause
> > > the entire system with the pause key and the buffer can go to 0% for an
> > > hour and then resume and continue burning the CD flawlessly.
> > >
> > > Of course, I'm sure this support isn't in linux yet...
> > >
> > Wrong!
> > We have had this discussion on cola already.
> > Purnproof was even available in linux before it was in windows IIRC...
>
> Amazing how that could be possible given that burnproof doesn't require OS
> support to operate - I was baiting and I see it worked...
>
> :)
:-)) YUP! That was the most Masterful-baiting I've seen yet!
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 01:02:51 -0700
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9d88se$b5t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Your system has to be so broken to fail a burn on a current gen burner -
> > > AND with the latest Burn-Proof technology people like Lite-on and
> > > Plextor use, it's literally impossible to fail the burn. You can pause
> > > the entire system with the pause key and the buffer can go to 0% for an
> > > hour and then resume and continue burning the CD flawlessly.
> > >
> > > Of course, I'm sure this support isn't in linux yet...
> >
> > But then you're stupid, aren't you.
> >
>
> Wow - that was really intelligent and quit an awesome comeback. Did you
> consider other classics like: "I know you are but what am I?" and "I'm
> rubber and you're glue, anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you"
>
> And you go to university? I pray for our future generations, may they not be
> unix-cursed....
--
Goolllyyy! I gotta show Jethro this!
V
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windos is *unfriendly*
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:49:09 +0100
In article <9d9qf8$t51$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> BS.. there are nothing than problems configuring Windows for networks.
BS yerself. I've had very few problems.
> > It has IP address, mask, gateway, DNS etc. What else do you need?
>
> Reboots, uninstalling components, reinstalling components, editing the
> registry.
Really? What _are_ you doing wrong?
> Funny.... everyone i have observede - including complete Linux newbies get
> stuff working first time with Linux.. cant say the same for Windows.
And yet I've descovered the complete opposite.
> You full of it and do not know what you talk about. Ive been working with
> this on Windows for 5 years (mainly PPP connections) and am sick of
> reinstalls , registry hacking etc. These guys are not even capable of
> implementing their own standards - just look at what they have done with PPP
> - cant even implement "their own" RFC's in their products.
Sounds to me like you're full of it.
I've been working on Windows since Windows 3.1 and 95. I've yet to have
to reinstall or hack registry settings.
--
---
Pete Goodwin
All your no fly zone are belong to us
My opinions are my own
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windos is *unfriendly*
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:49:49 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> And hard things possible.
And hard things even harder.
--
---
Pete Goodwin
All your no fly zone are belong to us
My opinions are my own
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windos is *unfriendly*
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:46:33 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ralsina@my-
deja.com says...
> >... what else do you need?
>
> How do I set a per-host route on windows? (consumer version ;-)
> Mind you, I *can* configure that from a GUI on Linux, but I just
> can't find it in this windows control panel thingie.
Ah, I see what you mean. You want something beyond the simple stuff
present in Windows.
But then, what are you trying to achieve with "per-host routing"?
--
---
Pete Goodwin
All your no fly zone are belong to us
My opinions are my own
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Users...Why?
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:07:11 +0100
> My reason for switching is more ideological, as my WinME runs well, but
> does crash every few days still.
>
> What are your reasons?
I first got work experience in 1994 (when I was 14) at a software
company. I was put on a diskless UNIX workstation running CDE. I took to
UNIX instantly.
I never had a unnatural fear of the command line, since I got in to
computers before the GUI was main stream and by this stage, I had been
busy hacking QBasic (you should see some of the stuff I managed to do
:-) and DOS for several years. I had always found the GUI a bit clunky
compared to the command line, and the new found power was a dream!
Unfortunately, the experience lasted only 2 weeks.
A few years later I went to college armed with Windows 95, when I heard
about Linux (a free UNIX workalike) and decided to get it. I installed it
and it took me about 2 weeks (if less) to go from using Windows to using
Linux for everything. And using UNIX was as good (better, in fact) than
I had remembered. The only problem was at first the application barrier,
ie no wordprocessor, etc (although it had _far_ more programming
languages than easily avaliable than on windows, and I spent most of my
time programming). I then discovered StarOffice, and ended that. I later
discovered LaTeX and that's were I am now, really.
I also had some ideas about trying to find something a little more stable
than Windows, since if you are a novice programmer in C, windows dies
rather regularly.
Now I just use windows for the odd game of RedAltet.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:52:40 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Haven't you ever known someone who drove a Yugo, but had nothing good
> to say about them?
Nope.
--
---
Pete Goodwin
All your no fly zone are belong to us
My opinions are my own
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:55:33 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I knew you Brits were europhobes :) Mario Monti, Commissioner for Trade
> (and thus having antitrust in his portfolio) stated about 2 weeks ago
> that this was exactly the deal struck with the DOJ.
> Another nice point, Scott McNealy was in Europe recently to lobby for
> more pressure from the European Commission. I believe he was *not* happy
> with the lack of action so far <g>.
I must be pretty rare, being in favour of Europe. Mostly. Except for
various directives on the shape of bananas (if the gutter press has got
it right, which I doubt).
As for the news you posted, where is that reported? I rarely read
newspapers and I get all my news either from Ceefax or The Register and
related web sites.
--
---
Pete Goodwin
All your no fly zone are belong to us
My opinions are my own
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:11:22 +0100
>> > Your system has to be so broken to fail a burn on a current gen
>> > burner
>> > - AND with the latest Burn-Proof technology people like Lite-on and
>> > Plextor use, it's literally impossible to fail the burn. You can
>> > pause the entire system with the pause key and the buffer can go to
>> > 0% for an hour and then resume and continue burning the CD
>> > flawlessly.
>> >
>> > Of course, I'm sure this support isn't in linux yet...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> But then you're stupid, aren't you.
>>
>
> Wow - that was really intelligent and quit an awesome comeback. Did you
> consider other classics like: "I know you are but what am I?" and "I'm
> rubber and you're glue, anything you say bounces off me and sticks to
> you"
Well, you are stupid. You make a completely false claim, based on
absoloutely nothing and then use this false claim to bash Linux. You're a
bloody idiot. Oh, and if you troll, expect flames, fool. Since this is a
blatent troll, I'll flame you, twit.
:)
> And you go to university?
Yup.
> I pray for our future generations, may they
> not be unix-cursed....
Well, my department is about 90% UNIX.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Users...Why?
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 20:11:32 +1200
Back in 1988 my parents bought an Amiga 500 w/ 512K of Ram (yeah baby,
yeah!), anyway, 7 years passed by, and finally! the PeeCee caught up to
what the Amiga had for, well, bloody ages. For the 7 years I owned the
computer, I absorbed as much information about is as possible, the
components, names, CLI, AmigaSHELL, AmigaBASIC and lots of other
goodies. I was quite proud of my self at the age of 14 on how much I
knew :)
Then in 1995, dad decided to purchase an IBM-Compatible computer, P75 w/
8MB of Ram, 850Mhz hard disk, 1 Meg video memory, and an SB16 SoundCard,
I thought it was awsome, 10 times faster than the Amiga, a huge hard
disk (I thought 850MB was huge compared to what the Amiga had). Then
the day it arrived, I hooked it all up, and booted the computer. I took
atleast 20-30 secs to load, and I sat back and thought that it was kind
of strange a new computer booting slower than my 7 year old Amiga 500.
Anyway, I moved on from there. Then I installed some applications.
Office 95, Corel Draw 5, and before I knew it, my hard disk was almost
full! I thought, "how come 2 applications took up that much room?",
Kindwords used only 3 disks, and Fusion paint only used one! then I
thought, well, that must mean there are more features etc etc. So I
carried on, anyway, I then started to get these BSOD's, and I couldn't
work out why? I was only using one app at a time, when printing, I did
nothing in the back ground, however, at that time I know nothing of
Linux. Then in 1996-97 I purchased a PCPlus magazine that included
Redhat 5.2, I partitioned the hard disk, and proceeded to install it
(remembering to print out all the system information from Windows).
Once installed it, I rebooted and everything worked, ye ha! now, I then
booted back into Windows and downloaded KDE, and installed it, with in a
few hours of downloading and installing, I was online with my new Lintel
machine, 4 years, and 6 distro's later I am now happy with the set up,
been using SuSE for a year, Wordperfect Suite for a couple of days, and
everything is sweet.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:13:05 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donn Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>
>> Seems like a nonsequiteur to me. Penguins used to fly. Then again,
>> everything came from the sea at one point.
>
> I know there's a lot of species of centipedes, something like 3000?
> Pretty diverse. The only kind I ever see around here, though, are those
> disgusting fast-moving ones with the long legs. The one I killed the
> other day was as big as a stick. Gross.
Are you Austrailian (IIRC, the _really_ huge ones are Australian)?
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Users...Why?
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 20:13:29 +1200
The reason why I left Windows was because it was inferior to what I used
before getting the PeeCee, and what was available for the x86 platform.
My decision had nothing to do with GPL or opensource, it was based
purely on the fact that Linux is a superior product.
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> Back in 1988 my parents bought an Amiga 500 w/ 512K of Ram (yeah baby,
> yeah!), anyway, 7 years passed by, and finally! the PeeCee caught up to
> what the Amiga had for, well, bloody ages. For the 7 years I owned the
> computer, I absorbed as much information about is as possible, the
> components, names, CLI, AmigaSHELL, AmigaBASIC and lots of other
> goodies. I was quite proud of my self at the age of 14 on how much I
> knew :)
>
> Then in 1995, dad decided to purchase an IBM-Compatible computer, P75 w/
> 8MB of Ram, 850Mhz hard disk, 1 Meg video memory, and an SB16 SoundCard,
> I thought it was awsome, 10 times faster than the Amiga, a huge hard
> disk (I thought 850MB was huge compared to what the Amiga had). Then
> the day it arrived, I hooked it all up, and booted the computer. I took
> atleast 20-30 secs to load, and I sat back and thought that it was kind
> of strange a new computer booting slower than my 7 year old Amiga 500.
> Anyway, I moved on from there. Then I installed some applications.
> Office 95, Corel Draw 5, and before I knew it, my hard disk was almost
> full! I thought, "how come 2 applications took up that much room?",
> Kindwords used only 3 disks, and Fusion paint only used one! then I
> thought, well, that must mean there are more features etc etc. So I
> carried on, anyway, I then started to get these BSOD's, and I couldn't
> work out why? I was only using one app at a time, when printing, I did
> nothing in the back ground, however, at that time I know nothing of
> Linux. Then in 1996-97 I purchased a PCPlus magazine that included
> Redhat 5.2, I partitioned the hard disk, and proceeded to install it
> (remembering to print out all the system information from Windows).
> Once installed it, I rebooted and everything worked, ye ha! now, I then
> booted back into Windows and downloaded KDE, and installed it, with in a
> few hours of downloading and installing, I was online with my new Lintel
> machine, 4 years, and 6 distro's later I am now happy with the set up,
> been using SuSE for a year, Wordperfect Suite for a couple of days, and
> everything is sweet.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:14:20 +0100
>> I think the theory is that mammles and birds used started off down the
>> warm body path by trying to maintain their body temperature high in
>> order to remain more active for more of the time. As we speak, the
>> iguanas on the galapagos are doing that now. Who knows, in 1e6 years we
>> could have a third warm blooded group.
>
> To drag this thread even further off-topic...
>
> The Galapagos Islands are fascinating laboratories for seeing evolution
> in action since they are so isolated. A good example of this are the
> vampire finches of Wolf Island. The island has no fresh water sources
> except for the relatively short rainy season. As a result, certain
> finches that have long, sharp beaks have developed a rather morbid
> method of meeting water demands. The finches wait for the chicks of
> another bird, the masked boobie, to hatch, and they begin pecking holes
> in the necks of the chicks.
> All the other finches gather round and start taking turns drawing
> blood
> from the wounds. Sometimes the chicks survive, sometimes they don't.
there are many wonderful things, such as marine iguanas, and finches to
fill _every_ niche.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:15:11 +0100
> It all boils down to one creature: the centipede, IMO. As centipedes
> evolved into other species of insects, they gradually lost their legs.
> Also, I believe that the centipedes also evolved into a branch of animal
> species as well, as well as half insect/half animal species such as
> arachnida (spiders). This is just my theory, but I'm not an expert by
> any means. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the next centipede I
> kill is my distant cousin.
Well, it's certainly an unusual theory.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:16:00 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>>
>> >> > Being warm blooded is not the thing that makes a mammal, having
>> >> > mammae is what makes the mammal. Birds do not nurse their young,
>> >> > mammals do
>> >>
>> >> Yes they do. Hatchlings are fed by their parent(s).
>> >
>> > Not with breast milk.
>>
>> So? the other guy said "birds do not nurse their young". This is false.
>
> MAMMALS NURSE THEIR YOUNG WITH BREAST MILK
BIRDS NURSE THEIR YOUNG WITHOUT BREAST MILK
your point?
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Double whammy cross-platform worm
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 01:15:12 -0700
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > A Solaris worm that defaces IIS Web server pages:
> >
> > http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO60354,00.html
>
> To the uneducated blindly hating, lets all read along together eh?
>
> "CERT said the worm enters a Solaris system by using a 2-year-old buffer
> overflow vulnerability and then targets IIS-based Web servers via a security
> hole that was uncovered seven months ago. Software patches that are supposed
> to fix the problems have long been available from both Sun and Microsoft. "
>
> Hmm... so this "new" worm uses a 2 year old Solaris vulnerability combined
> with a 7 month old IIS vulnerability both of which have LONG had a complete
> fix available for.
>
> So, it's not ANY suprise at all that we also read:
> "Denis Zenkin, a spokesman at Moscow-based antivirus software vendor
> Kaspersky Lab International Ltd., today said he wasn't aware of any
> incidents involving the sadmind/IIS worm. The worm could turn out to be
> "merely another entry in CERT's virus encyclopedia," he added. "
>
> And equally it's no surprise that the blindly anti-MS haters simply see MS
> mentioned in some shady light and immediate dispatch what little brains they
> have left to out mongolia and announce this worm as if it were some sign of
> a MS weakness...
>
> weird...
>
> how this is even news suprises me... I would expect The Register to run this
> sort of crap...
Yes, and read a little further and you'll see that both Sun and MS have
fixes available. I don't need to because I'm using a newer version OS
5.8. It's OS 5.7 and lower.
It's just that MS is in the limelight as far as hackers are concerned.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:20:58 +0100
>>>Using the standard usage of "nurse" and in the context of the
>>>definition of
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>mammals, birds do not nurse their young, they nourish their young.
> ^^^^^^^
You seem to be saying that birds don't nurse their young because they're
not mammals. According to my dictionary, birds _do_ nurse their young,
under several of the definitions (obviusly except giving them breast
milk). My dictionary specifies _nothing_ about nursing that requires
being a mammal, except the first point.
In the context of mammals, birds do pretty much everything mammald do in
terms of nursing, except lactating.
Birds definitely _do_ nurse their young.
-ed
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does Flatfoot feel so threatened?
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:25:00 +0100
> Yes, GUI has its place. I can't imagine a modern word processor using
> the console -- how would you display the fonts? And nobody would batch
> a word processor in the sense that I have in mind, though a few do some
> clever things with the macro features in Office.
Generally you should be worrying about content, not style. For most
tasks, visual formatting is not required. That is why I do all my stuff
in vi and process it in LaTeX and my documents look better than anything
word will ever produce.
As is happens, computers are much better at typesetting than people, that
it is why it is best to leave the computer to do it. Since you don't need
to do it, you don't really need a fancy display.
> But the command line has its place as well; it is anything but obsolete.
> Batching can be (and often is) something as simple as setting up a .BAT
> file to run several commands in sequence, so you can switch away and
> play Minesweeper until it's done. Also, nothing beats the console for
> portability; no two GUIs are done nearly the same way, but a console
> program can usually port with just a recompile.
>
>
>
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