Linux-Advocacy Digest #244, Volume #28 Sat, 5 Aug 00 06:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Lycos Selected Microsoft and Intel ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: one of Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: one of Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Steve Chaney ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Rex Ballard--please address this ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why Lycos Selected Microsoft and Intel
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:39:37 -0400
"R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )" wrote:
>
> In article <8lr616$r65$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Serge J.Luca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/solutions/ecommerce/lycoscs.htm
> >
>
> Microsoft has managed to create enough incentives to get
> Lycos to try Microsoft (for the third time). And even this
> is only for the "Face" or "Glamour Server". Essentially,
> Lycos can use a CISCO router (UNIX) to scatter search requests
> to an array of 1000 Windows 2000 machines, which will then
> forward requests to the "Real" UNIX servers that run the text-search
> engines.
>
> From the article (near the end of the story).
>
> MSFT> Why Lycos Selected Microsoft and Intel
> MSFT> Interoperability
> MSFT> Utilizing the Microsoft Web platform, Lycos will be
> MSFT> able to maintain existing non-Microsoft components
> MSFT> while standardizing on Microsoft technologies.
> MSFT> Lycos plans to keep its existing Unix database
> MSFT> servers, but with open standards such as HTTP and
> MSFT> XML, is finding few problems integrating them with
> MSFT> Microsoft Windows� 2000, COM, and Microsoft
> MSFT> Visual Studio� development system tools. And by
> MSFT> adopting the Windows 2000 platform, Lycos is
> MSFT> enabling a rich XML environment in its Web
> MSFT> solutions that will help Lycos capitalize on .NET
> MSFT> opportunities with software and services as they
> MSFT> become available.
>
> Put simply, Microsoft plans to impose a bunch of perverted
> .Net protocols in it's servers and IE 6.0 and Lycos needs
> Windows 2000 front-ends to support the connections. It's
> likely that many sites will have to come up with a separate
> host-id (net.lycos.com) to support the Microsoft wierdness
> while the (www.lycos.com) continues to support the open
> standards.
>
> Right now, Microsoft is staging a huge push to get Windows 2000
> onto the most prestigeous sites as the "front end" servers to
> attempt to shift the Netcraft surveys. This way Microsoft can say
> "According to Netcraft information, Windows 2000 serves 90% of
> the Fortune 500 (largest corporations) and 90% of the E-100 (largest
> web sites).
>
> Lycos has tried Windows NT three times. The first time, they tried
> to run an array of NT 3.51 servers against Sun servers. The were
> allowed to announce that they were using NT, and users were given
> the options and counts for each server. You could pick either.
> NT failed so badly that Lycos pulled the plug on it. They issued
> a carefully worded announcement (designed to slip past the Microsoft
> NDA censors) which - if you read between the lines - said "We had
> so many problems we just decided that we couldn't afford the hassle,
> no matter how much free stuff Microsft was willing to give us".
>
> When NT 4.0 came out, Lycos waited until after Service pak 3, and
> again tried using NT 4.0 strictly as a front-end server. Again,
> they found that the overhead was too expensive. The trial was
> unplugged before they even got out.
>
> This time, Microsoft is pulling out all the stops. They are planning
> to support 1000 Windows 2000 servers as "front-ends". Lycos could
> still pull the plug and switch to Linux or FreeBSD, but this way
> they get free hardware, software, installation, and support.
>
> Don't expect to find either of the above tests on the Microsoft
> site. Microsoft burns the dead bodies.
don't you mean "Microsoft burns the dead babies" ???
>
> --
> Rex Ballard - I/T Architect, MIS Director
> Linux Advocate, Internet Pioneer
> http://www.open4success.com
> Linux - 42 million satisfied users worldwide
> and growing at over 5%/month! (recalibrated 8/2/00)
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism,soc.singles
Subject: Re: one of Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:43:17 -0400
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> >> Mr. Kulkis's nonsensical Communist conspiracy theories are the
> >> sort of thing the John Birch Society is fond of, and that organization's
> >> name suggests certain metaphors, so...
> >No, my information comes form defectors from the Communist government in
> >Moscow.
>
> No details given. It *would* have been nice if some defector had
> filched a whole load of documents of the Soviet leaders' plans and
> published them on the Internet, but...
In other words...it would be really nice if somebody woudl provide
us with a full explanation of the magician's stage show.
>
> >> Which makes one wonder about the status of fencing stolen goods,
> >> since it is a form of capitalism that depends on theft.
> >You can always tell when Loren is losing....he starts trying to
> >make ludicrous statements like 'crime is legal'.
>
> Mr. Kulkis is unwilling to accept that there are bad forms of
> capitalism, and it shows.
I'm not the one claiming that fencing stolen goods is legal.
That's YOUR fucking paranoid ravings.
>
> >> And Napster and similar software have been dependent on massive
> >> copyright violations; without such violations, they would have a *much*
> >> smaller userbase. If one does not believe in intellectual property
> >> rights, Napster is 100% legitimate. However, if one does...
>
> > The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties,
> >Imposts
> > and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
> > general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and
> > Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
>
> Mr. Kulkis concedes that the US Government has a right to collect
> taxes.
>
> > To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for
> > limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their
> > respective Writings and Discoveries;
>
> >Thus, the preservation of Copyrights CLEARLY takes precedence over
> >Napster. Napster is not being prosecuted for giving away music.
> >Napster is being prosecuted for operating a common nuisance where
> >copyright violations are condoned and unchecked... in the same
> >way as a property owner who fails to keep an unoccupied house
> >free from heroin addicts who set up a "shooting gallery"...
>
> However, Napster is a bunch of *CAPITALISTS*.
No... they are socialists. They steal other people's labor.
>
> --
> Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism,soc.singles
Subject: Re: one of Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:44:15 -0400
Steve Chaney wrote:
>
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 10:20:08 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Steve Chaney wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 03:30:31 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Steve Chaney wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Let me introduce you to TheJungle.
> >> >> In TheJungle calling for help is for wimps.
> >> >
> >> >Wrong. Being a lazy ass bastard and whining because you don't have
> >> >an infinite supply of snacky cakes for sufficient grounds for
> >> >a boot in the face.
> >>
> >> If I decided to eat a snacky cake would you care to try and come and
> >> provide the boot to the face?
> >
> >are you a whining lazy-ass bastard?
>
> No but I'll try real real hard.
>
> Anything to entice you to try and make good on that "boot in the face"
> threat.
>
> Before you try this, however, I need to get something straight:
>
> Do you want your leg mailed back to you via 2nd day air or overnight
> express?
Sorry, Steve. You still have a job, and you haven't demanded
anything out of my paycheck yet.
>
> -- Steve
>
> " As I said I hope your child is molested."
> - Jim Dutton to Nubianne Khatulah Black,
> Message-ID: <8meire$tbv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:44:54 -0400
Stuart Fox wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > 2. Intelligence is genetically linked. Correlation > 0.5 (where
> > > > a correlation of 1.0 is absolute correlation)
> > >
> > > Did you ever take a statistics class?
> > > What are the two variables you are correlating?
> > >
> > > (Hint: genetics is not a variable).
> >
> > For statistical analysis, it is.
> >
> >
> >
> > > What statistical tests are taken to consider if the
> > > correlation is statistically significant? (no, >0.5 is not one).
> >
> > Read The Bell Curve, and get back to us.
> >
> Dude, you're seriously referring us to The Bell Curve? Please,
> give us some serious references and then get back to us.
Have you read it?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy
Subject: Steve Chaney
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:46:31 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 05:54:51 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >How is it that you pass back and forth between vapid ignorance and
> >brilliant insight between sending one post and writing the next?
>
> He doesn't. He alternates between agreeing and disagreeing with your
> viewpoint. Agreeing with an idiot doesn't make you one, and disagreeing
> with a moron doesn't make you a genius.
Seriously. There are times when Steve shows clever insight,
followed up by utter lunacy....and vice versa.
I don't get him..
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy
Subject: Rex Ballard--please address this
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:47:56 -0400
MK wrote:
>
> On 3 Aug 2000 00:52:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi) wrote:
>
> >>What's the difference between Microsoft's Extortion and Racketeering,
> >>and Government Extortion and Racketeering?
>
> >The government throw you in jail for tax fraud if you don't pay your
> >federal tax, but Microsoft can't do anything if you opt out of the
> >Microsoft tax ? Subtle difference.
>
> Whatever you may say about MS, please don't lie that MS has forced
> some "tax". If you don't pay tax for e.g. producing/buying/using cigarette
> without a tax, you're committing crime that if proven in court will result
> in punishing you. If you buy PC without Windows installed or you produce
> or sell or buy PC without Windows you 1. do not commit crime 2. do
> not HAVE to pay to MS.
>
> The constant repetitions of "MS tax" is just Goebbels-like propaganda by those
> who have irrational hate of MS (not: argument against MS based on facts
> that may or may not be there). Do you do this?
>
> MK
You're an Bill-Gates-is-God-idiot in denial of reality.
>
> ---
>
> Waiting for "good collective" is like waiting for Godot.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:53:09 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:14:35 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> >> >What part of "volountary exchange of goods and services" do you
> >> >> >not understand?
> >> >> That's a very idealistic view of capitalism, something that
> >> >> suggests some college student who has just discovered the works of Ayn Rand.
> >>
> >> >> And this view of capitalism has often been used to defend
> >> >> Microsoft, which Mr. Kulkis hates.
> >> >FALSE PREMISE And you know it, YOU GODAMNED LYING BASTARD!
> >>
> >> >Microsoft's contracts are anything BUT "volountary"
> >>
> >> How were they "not voluntary"?
> >
> >You goddamn lying hypocritical asshole.... you know damn well that
> >Microsoft's contracts are not volountary ... In fact, YOU YOURSELF
> >are on record of explaining this very fact in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
> >and talk.politics.libertarian.
When the company is offered two choices:
1: Accept our contract which effectively forbids you to run
your business to
a) sell competing products
b) sell anything that would benefit the customer at
the expense of Microsoft.
or
2: Pay 3x the price that all of your competitors are paying
for our product.
This is like twisting someone's arm behind their back, and
then claiming that they have freedom to move in any direction
which they so choose.
>
> That's not the point. He wants to know why Microsoft's contracts are
> not voluntary, but contracts by those who work for predatory employers
> under your desired political system are not.
Employees have the right to find a new job at any time with
very little repercussion.
In case you haven't noticed....Businesses compete for employees.
>
> Basically, you take the inconsistent position that an employer strongarming
> employees is involved in a "voluntary exchange" but Microsoft isn't.
Show me one employer that can successfully strongarm it's employees.
>
> >Are you now saying that YOU LIE.
>
> You've completely missed the point.
>
> >GIVE IT UP, YOU GODDAMNED LYING FUCKING ASSHOLE!
>
> Largely because you are losing it.
No. Loren Is most definitely a goddamned lying fucking asshole.
>
> >Rex: Please fill in the details of the nature of the standard
> >arm-twisting tactics used by Microsoft.
>
> I'm sure Rex would be willing and able to submit an argument that Microsoft's
> business dealings fail the "voluntary test", but Rex will probably not try
> to simoultaneously defend a political system where the type of coercion
> you are complaining about becomes commonplace.
Capitalism is not a political system...it is an economic system.
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:53:09 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:14:35 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> >> >What part of "volountary exchange of goods and services" do you
> >> >> >not understand?
> >> >> That's a very idealistic view of capitalism, something that
> >> >> suggests some college student who has just discovered the works of Ayn Rand.
> >>
> >> >> And this view of capitalism has often been used to defend
> >> >> Microsoft, which Mr. Kulkis hates.
> >> >FALSE PREMISE And you know it, YOU GODAMNED LYING BASTARD!
> >>
> >> >Microsoft's contracts are anything BUT "volountary"
> >>
> >> How were they "not voluntary"?
> >
> >You goddamn lying hypocritical asshole.... you know damn well that
> >Microsoft's contracts are not volountary ... In fact, YOU YOURSELF
> >are on record of explaining this very fact in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
> >and talk.politics.libertarian.
When the company is offered two choices:
1: Accept our contract which effectively forbids you to run
your business to
a) sell competing products
b) sell anything that would benefit the customer at
the expense of Microsoft.
or
2: Pay 3x the price that all of your competitors are paying
for our product.
This is like twisting someone's arm behind their back, and
then claiming that they have freedom to move in any direction
which they so choose.
>
> That's not the point. He wants to know why Microsoft's contracts are
> not voluntary, but contracts by those who work for predatory employers
> under your desired political system are not.
Employees have the right to find a new job at any time with
very little repercussion.
In case you haven't noticed....Businesses compete for employees.
>
> Basically, you take the inconsistent position that an employer strongarming
> employees is involved in a "voluntary exchange" but Microsoft isn't.
Show me one employer that can successfully strongarm it's employees.
>
> >Are you now saying that YOU LIE.
>
> You've completely missed the point.
>
> >GIVE IT UP, YOU GODDAMNED LYING FUCKING ASSHOLE!
>
> Largely because you are losing it.
No. Loren Is most definitely a goddamned lying fucking asshole.
>
> >Rex: Please fill in the details of the nature of the standard
> >arm-twisting tactics used by Microsoft.
>
> I'm sure Rex would be willing and able to submit an argument that Microsoft's
> business dealings fail the "voluntary test", but Rex will probably not try
> to simoultaneously defend a political system where the type of coercion
> you are complaining about becomes commonplace.
Capitalism is not a political system...it is an economic system.
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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