Linux-Advocacy Digest #258, Volume #28 Sun, 6 Aug 00 05:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: Microsoft
Ruling Too Harsh
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform (void)
Re: Linux, easy to use?
Re: Tinman digest, volume 2451763 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? (Jacques Guy)
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
Re: post-installation SCSI setup?? ("Alan Murrell")
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
background in fvwm?? ("Alan Murrell")
Re: From a Grove of Birch Trees It Came... (Loren Petrich)
Re: Slipping away into time. (Pete Goodwin)
Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!! (Pete Goodwin)
Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!! (Pete Goodwin)
Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!! (Pete Goodwin)
Re: post-installation SCSI setup?? ("Alan Murrell")
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future?
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 02:36:11 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>>
>> Said Keith T. Williams in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>> >T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> Said Keith T. Williams in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>> >> [...]
>> >> >Sorry Max, but I think that your sister by-whatever-means is a language
>> >> >snob...
>> >>
>> >> Not at all. She wants to get rid of the word "got" because it is too
>> >> often confusing, not because of any purist inclination. She doesn't
>> >> want to get rid of "ain't", and refuses to give a shit about split
>> >> infinitives. It is certainly not a matter of being a snob.
>> >
>> >What is confusing about "got"?
>>
>> "I got a two by four" doesn't indicate whether you're trying to say that
>> you *received* a two by four, or *had* a two by four, or *have* a two by
>> four, or *readied* a two by four, just to consider the most common
>> possibilities. Certainly, being more grammatically precise by saying
>> "I've got a two by four" narrows things down a bit, but is rarely the
>> one intended anyway, and in that case, "got" is entirely redundant.
>
>Hate to say it max, but over 70% of natural language is context
>dependant.
100% is context dependant, without a doubt. That is irrelevant; "got"
is either uninformative or ambiguous in at least 70% of its
constructions.
>The overloading of terms is something that we normally never notice...
>Until you start to study a foreign language.
It isn't a matter of overloading terms, that's the problem. I'm not
complaining about "have", I'm complaining about "got". Get it?
[...]
>I'm studying Russian. If you go to Barnes & Noble and find the
>1000+ page "English-Russian Russian-English Dicitonary" by
>Kenneth Katzner, you will discover that practically all of our words
>have multiple meanings.
I didn't even have to check the Merrium-Webster available on-line to
know that *all* of our words have *numerous* definitions. "Meanings"
are not simply numerous; they are infinite, as the meaning of a word,
regardless of its definitions, is always 100% context-sensitive.
>Nouns *tend* to to translate from one language to another with the
>same set of multiple meanings (but not always).
>
>Verbs, adjectives, and adverbs somewhat, and prepositions barely
>at all.
>
>In the dictionary I mentioned above, look up words such as
>"for", "by", "about", and "of" and you will see what I mean.
You seem to be missing my point.
>>
>> So if someone is explaining "I needed to fix it, so I got a two by
>> four...", you don't know if it meant they had to go get one, or if they
>> already had one.
>
>One can normally tell by context. If you can't, then the speaker
>doesn't consider it to be that important...the emphasis is on the
>fact that it was a 2x4, and not, say, a crowbar.
Well, the English teacher who started this discussion with her comment
that "got" is often used when the speaker is *not considering* it to be
important, as distinctly separate from *considering it to not be
important*, would probably point out that one cannot tell by context in
some situations where it is a point of both importance and confusion.
[...]
>"got" is used as a way of DE-emphasizing the method by which the
>2x4 was obtained, so that the listener's focus will be directed
>to what the speaker deems to be more important.
There are many times when the listener has more authority to determine
what is important, and in most such situations, 'got' is very
problematic.
>I come across similar things in Russian all the time.
How similar, I wonder. I've got to know.
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
Research assistance gladly accepted. --
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future?
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 02:38:14 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Keith T. Williams in alt.destroy.microsoft;
[...]
>But of what importance is where you obtained the 2x4? [...]
That is, indeed, the point. You cannot know of what importance it is,
because you haven't been informed whether it is important enough by the
verb used to describe it, or whether it is not important enough by the
verb used to avoid describing it. "Got" can be, and is, often used in
either situation, and so is often problematic, if rarely a problem.
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future?
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 02:40:40 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said John Sanders in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>>
>>
>> So if someone is explaining "I needed to fix it, so I got a two by
>> four...", you don't know if it meant they had to go get one, or if they
>> already had one. The almost equally facile "I bought a two by four" or
[...]
> You don't know, either, if "I needed..." means "I had a need", or "it
>was mandatory that.." or "I desired to...".
I believe that you would know that with far more certainty and
reliability in almost every case. Consider the alternatives "I had to
fix it..." or even "It needed to be fixed". Contrast the even more
vague "I've got to fix it, so I got a two by four".
>Likewise, by fix it, we
>don't know if the speaker means "to repair it" or "to force occupation
>at a particular place". And, "...a two by four". Does that mean a
>piece of lumber 1 3/4 by 3 1/2 or a vehicle with four wheels, and only
>two driving wheels? So you see, there is no way to tell what the
>speaker means at all.
By pointing out that you *could* be ignorant of *every other aspect* of
the statement, if taken alone and in a vacuum devoid of conversation,
you seek to make the point that the much more arbitrary and
uninformative construct "got" is a typical specimen of language.
http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/sloth.htm
My favorite reference (above) on "Logical Fallacies" identifies this, I
think, as "slothful induction", though I'd appreciate any other opinions
on the matter.
> But, "being contrary just for the hell of it", we all know what that
>means.
That you consider it more a "fallacy of exclusion"?
http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/exclus.htm
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
Research assistance gladly accepted. --
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future?
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 02:43:06 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>>
>> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>> >> Said Keith T. Williams in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>> [...]
>> >> My language counselor (who is my "sister in-common-law", who is an
>> >> English teacher, and just bought a house with my brother, a Science
>> >> teacher, and I'm so proud of both of them...) points out that the word
>> >> "got" should be eviscerated from the language, and I agree. I got to.
>> >
>> >*I've* got to.
>> >
>> >> She's got more educations then me.
>>
>> Another reason "got" is simply a pain in the ass is the fact that it
>> makes a mockery of enunciation and diction in most common usage. While
>> it could simply be the practiced tongue-twister involved in a 'v'
>> consonant followed by a gutteral/hard 'g' consonant, which isn't a
>
>reminds me of the dolts who say "I been there"
>Makes me feel like smacking their ears.
I think that's more a matter of elocution than diction. This seems a
natural progression of language; the alternatives don't fit often
enough, and the "I - v - b" enunciation is not comfortable in English.
It seems more like a contraction of a contraction "I have been there"
becomes "I've been there" becomes "I'e been there".
>> typical construction in English, AFAIK, I think it may also be just as
>> much a case that "I 'have' got to" is no less silly, if slightly more
>> grammatically correct. "Got" is a foreign interloper in the phrase, "I
>
>"I have GOT to get one of those!"
Yes, it does often emphasize through reiteration, I'll admit. But just
how does "got to get" break down linguistically?
>> have to". In the vernacular, the phrase "I gots' to" is actually far
>> more communicative, if even a greater offense against Keith's
>> grammatical senses. The more indicative but even less correct appearing
>
>"I have to" works just as well...
Only grammatically, not conceptually. Not at all. "I gots' to" is
vernacular, and communicates a wealth of information and context which
"I have to" simply does not.
[...]
> What do you expect from the uneducated????
A thirst for education, of course. What else?
>Hmmmmmm, i try to avoid sounding like an uneducated peasant....
In a world where, at least idealistically, there are no peasants, to
sound like an uneducated one communicates a wealth of understanding
which shows the 200 page treatise to be the inferior of a meaningful
haiku.
http://www.fivesevenfive.com
--
T. Max Devlin
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of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 6 Aug 2000 02:49:41 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
>Get out of your 19th century Dickens fantasy. The world has moved on.
Indonesia hasn't moved on. It still has the factories, the 16-hour shifts,
the workers living in company-owned dorms, and the pennies-per-hour wages,
just like what the US had in the 19th century. And it's all run by American
corporations, whose products appear in every American mall. Go tell some near
sighted, American Flag worshipping, homophobic, Ku Klux Klan fool the world has
moved on.
--
Have you re-installed your operating system today?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (void)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: 6 Aug 2000 06:32:56 GMT
On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:46:29 -0400, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Said Roberto Alsina in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>
>>Go to the nearest unixy system, and do a man chmod, please!
>
>Sorry, I've already done that at least seven dozen times in my career,
>and didn't see anything then that caused me to recognize my error, so I
>doubt I'd see it now, even if I were to spend the time reviewing a man
>page for no practical purpose, which I'm afraid I'm not willing to do.
Let me get this straight.
Did you read the man page seven dozen times, or did you type "man chmod"
seven dozen times?
If you read it seven dozen times, how come you don't understand it?
And if you didn't read it, why not? (This should be really good. I
bet anyone ten dollars that he'll say the problem's with the man page.)
--
Ben
220 go.ahead.make.my.day ESMTP Postfix
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Linux, easy to use?
Date: 6 Aug 2000 03:07:56 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
>
>Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> Windo's has a few legasy DOS programms, but noboddy ever uses them. Its'
>not like UNIX whear peopole still half to rite shell script workarounds and
>eddit config fials all the time because THEAR IS NO OTHER WAY.
>Oh I am not talking about just the "legasy DOS programms" that are stored in
>c:\windows\command. I am also talking about the command line interface
>programs stored in c:\windows. A few of them may have been inherited from
>lanman but most of them were introduced with Windows 95. These include
>ftp.exe, NBstat.exe, ping.exe, route.exe, tracert.exe, and others
>depending on your installed options.
Some of those were introduced with BSD UNIX circa 1983.
TELNET.EXE should have been one of the above, but Microsoft decided to
dump ANSI.SYS in favor of a crappy, black-and-white, 23-line,
Windows-GUI terminal emulator that thinks it has 24 lines and even when
corrected behaves in unpredictable ways.
--
Microsoft Windows. Beyond crappy. Beyond belief.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tinman digest, volume 2451763
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 07:32:05 GMT
Here's today's Tinman digest:
1> But didn't you say my entertainment was irrelevent?
Aren't you sure?
1> On the contrary, Pookie.
Typical pontification, and typical erroneous attribution.
2> And you're playing them with him, pookie. ('
Typical erroneous statement, and typical erroneous attribution.
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Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 07:59:55 +0000
From: Jacques Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake?
Jim Richardson wrote:
> Note that Tim was either incorrect, or simply lying about recompiling the
> kernel.
No, he just misspelt "run" as "recompial" and "lilo" as "kernal".
You know how old Tim spells, don't you?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 6 Aug 2000 08:06:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So you support the party you think will win, no matter if they aggree with
>your politics?
No, I support what I consider the lesser of two evils of major
parties. And I will keep on doing that until the electoral laws are
reformed to make life easier for third parties. And there are several
ways to do that.
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: "Alan Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: post-installation SCSI setup??
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 01:12:15 -0800
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip) wrote:
> Try the following as root.
>
> modprobe NCR53c406a
Worked like a charm! fdisk even finds it no problem, but not I just got
to find a way to mount it. Guess I'll have to doa little editing of my
/dev/etc file...
--
Alan Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ: 1147392
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http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1777
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 6 Aug 2000 08:10:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 31 Jul 2000 03:54:45 GMT,
> Loren Petrich, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>>>Perhaps you could explain to me what it means now? I am an American,
>>>it is not a nationalist idea. It's about freedom.
>> Being a member of a certain community. I'd like to see Mr.
>>Richardson move to elsewhere in the world and still consider himself an
>>honorary American.
>You want to pay me to move? I'll consider it, if not, you don't want it
>enough to matter.
I'll try to make myself clearer. Would Mr. Richardson consider
himself an American even if he was a lifelong resident and citizen of
some other country.
>>>> I'd prefer something more honest, such as support for a world
>>>>government.
>>>You won't get that from me, I am not in support of such a thing.
>> So we are back to having national governments and national citizenship.
>No, you are debating with the false-dilemma error. It's not either or.
I personally think that anarchism is a utopian pipedream. It
seems to me that government will likely re-appear, though maybe under
some other name. Read "Animal Farm" to see what I mean.
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: "Alan Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: background in fvwm??
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 01:17:19 -0800
Greetings, once again!
I like using a basic X setup, with fvwm as my window manager (it's fast,
light, and serves its purpose well). However, I would still like to have
a background image, and have noticed a few screenshots of peoples'
desktops using fvwm with background images, and was wondering if that was
possible without the use of a desktop (such as gnome, or KDE -- i.e., with
*just* the fvwm window manager).
Thank you for your input.
--
Alan Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ: 1147392
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: From a Grove of Birch Trees It Came...
Date: 6 Aug 2000 08:15:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Said Aaron R. Kulkis in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>>Just making the point that all of the "corporate welfare" that
>>the Democrats are whining about and blaming on the Republicans
>>was actually pushed through congress by the Democrats themselves.
Pure yellow-dog Republicanism -- politicians of both parties have
been addicts of this perversion of capitalism.
>>The Republicans' greatest fear is that the American public
>>won't understand what the Republicans' goals are.
>>The Democrats' greatest fear is that the American public
>>will figure out EXACTLY what the Democrats' goals are.
>Wow; coming from a Republican, that sure sounds like a pretty convincing
>argument. Not.
Mr. Kulkis will protest that he is not a Republican, but there's
an old joke that says that libertarians are Republicans who smoke pot.
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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Subject: Re: Slipping away into time.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 08:16:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Pete Goodwin wrote:
>> Are games developers moving to Linux in a big way? I don't see any
>> evidence of that.
>And this comment just proves my point about you Pete.
>Your not a .DLL writer for Windows who worked for a mainframe company.
>Your a kid.
>
>End of subject.
Weak, Charlie, very weak. About as weak as your original post.
--
Pete Goodwin
---
Coming soon, Kylix, Delphi on Linux.
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Subject: Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 08:21:57 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cihl) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Well, let's see. You're supporting Windows. This is an OS which
>crashes all the time, slows down by the hour when you use it, and is
>just plain awful to use for everybody.
Which Windows? Windows 3.1? Windows 95? Windows 98? 98 SE? NT? 2000?
We're getting back to why I originally said "Linux lags behind Windows".
>This particular OS is made by a company which is constantly trying to
>take over the world, stomps every bit of competition with their
>constant illegal practices, forces consumers to conform to their
>"standards", and their standards alone, and steals technology
>painstakingly created by their still-existing competitors to
>consequently stab them in the back with it. This sound more like the
>MAFIA to me!
Sounds like a certain kind of business practice to me.
>Look Pete, you're supporting the Mafia! You're a fscking Gangster!
>You're probably like one of those guys from the movies.
>
> "Yah, Bwoss! Shure, Bwoss! I'w do it ight awoy Bwoss!"
I doubt I could get the accent right, something to do with having an
English accent. Brits are terrible at sounding like Americans and vice
versa.
--
Pete Goodwin
---
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My success does not require the destruction of Microsoft.
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Subject: Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 08:26:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cihl) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Oops. (not kernel, just me)
>SB16 is a jumpercard just like to SBPro, isn't it. You have to give
>the IRQ and DMA manually for it to work. Windhose does this itself.
>That's why hardware detection takes so long on install. (you know,
>with all those reboots 'n stuff)
It's an ISA PnP card. Windows (the inferior system, right?) can configure
it, why can't Linux? I had to go into ISAPNP and create my own
configuration file to get it to work.
>It's never necessary to insult anybody... But then again, it's a lot
>of fun. Try it yourself sometime. Or maybe you're just too STUPID to
>do it.
In polite conversation, if you want your points to be heard, the last thing
you do is insult the listener. If you do, don't expect anyone to listen to
you.
>> >Yeah, see what happens to the layout on the pages after it.
>>
>> I do this sort of thing all the time. Works for me.
>
>Well, for me it doesn't. Everything shifts across pages and i have to
>update the content page every time, after i got all the spaces out of
>the start of every page.
Let me see... you add a picture to a page, and everything after it shifts
down. Um, what were you expecting to happen?
As for the contents page, you regenerate it. It would be nice if it did it
automatically, maybe there's an option for that.
--
Pete Goodwin
---
Coming soon, Kylix, Delphi on Linux.
My success does not require the destruction of Microsoft.
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Subject: Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 08:29:08 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cihl) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Oh frequently. And I've been called "Moron", "Shithead" etc. It only
>> goes to show how naff some people are.
>
>But this is c.o.l.a.! You're supposed to do that, Buttwipe!
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was the Linux Advocacy group, not the "Come
here to hear random insults" group!
>No you didn't. You just replaced them with alternative untruths.
>(that's okay for c.o.l.a. i guess)
You said all Sound Cards were unsupported. I said that's not true. You said
ALSA supported it (yet is not included in various distros).
>> Since I'm not a troll, I have never lied. I have yelled and flamed
>> _after_ the original poster started spout nonsense about Windows.
>
>It's really hard to spout nonsense about Windows. Most of it is true.
8)
--
Pete Goodwin
---
Coming soon, Kylix, Delphi on Linux.
My success does not require the destruction of Microsoft.
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From: "Alan Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: post-installation SCSI setup??
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 01:37:36 -0800
In article <539j5.20725$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alan Murrell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip) wrote:
>> Try the following as root.
>>
>> modprobe NCR53c406a
>
> Worked like a charm! fdisk even finds it no problem, but not I just got
> to find a way to mount it. Guess I'll have to doa little editing of my
> /dev/etc file...
Oooops, that should have been /dev/fstab, of course :-)
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