Linux-Advocacy Digest #408, Volume #28 Mon, 14 Aug 00 21:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Lycos Selected Microsoft and Intel ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft MCSE ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft MCSE (Craig Kelley)
Re: Another satisfied Linux user (Craig Kelley)
Re: OS advertising in the movies... (was Re: Microsoft MCSE) (Stephen S. Edwards II)
Re: Is the GDI-in-kernel-mode thing really so bad?... (was Re: Anonymous Wintrolls
and Authentic Linvocates) (Stephen S. Edwards II)
Re: Windows stability: Alternate shells? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard says ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Is the GDI-in-kernel-mode thing really so bad?... (was Re: Anonymous Wintrolls
and Authentic Linvocates) (Stephen S. Edwards II)
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why Lycos Selected Microsoft and Intel
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:47:06 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Drestin Black wrote:
> > >
> > > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > OK, now your turn. Where did you get that bit of information? AFAIK,
> and
> > > > I am still in touch with the guys at FAST, there is NO anticipated
> > > > change in the relationship. Be very careful now, because statements
> like
> > > > this can affect the stock market and if they can be proven to be
> false,
> > > > you can be sued for damages.
> > >
> > > My source says to expect to see less and less use of FAST by Lycos due
> to
> > > "recent contractual obligations" but not an end to the relationship (I
> > > misread her first e-mail about it) due to, again, "contractual
> obligations"
> > > but this time on the FAST end. Lycos can't dump FAST because of the
> > > agreement between them. I'm not privy to those terms but they are not
> > > forever. I would not expect a renewal.
> >
> > This is very convenient for you isn't it? You get to say anything you
> > want about a company and offer no proof. Again I say, you should prove
> > it or be quiet because you don't know what you are talking about.
>
> Just as I was able to predict the exact time when MS would start moving
> hotmail to W2K almost a year ago ... time will prove me right on this one...
> that's about all I can say/do at this point...
If you knew about it 12 months ago, then the whole project should have
been completed 6 months ago.
And yet, they are just starting NOW...why is that?
>
> >
> > Perhaps, Lycos and FAST's agreement may dissolve in the future, but
> > currently neither you nor anyone else can know for sure.
>
> you have little faith...
M$ has given us very little be faithful in. VERY LITTLE (other than
their ability to use legal maneuverings to gouge money out of people,
and prevent competitors products from even being offered in catalogs).
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Admit it. You are making it up.
> > >
> > > of course I'm not. why would I? i have no investment in FAST nor an
> reason
> > > to dislike or disparage them. I responded to your original post because
> the
> > > word on the vine I had made it sound like the deal was bust - but
> > > researching before making my second reply gave me some more depth ...
> >
> > The reason you would/are making this up is because you have vested
> > interest in NT offer Linux or FreeBSD and would probably say anything to
> > promote it.
>
> I like *BSD, I never liked Linux mostly because of the people associated
> with it and their attitudes and behaviour. I have stock in MS, if that is
So, you judge the quality of code by the behavior of users?
> what you mean by "vested interest" and, yes, my company is very very
> "vested" in NT's future. But I would drop NT in a second and start flying
> the flag of OS (insert name here) as soon as someone could show me an OS
> that can do what NT can do for the price, at the performance and reliability
> and east of use and sheer funtionality outta the box and has even remotely
> the same level of support and developer dedication... it ain't there today.
>
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft MCSE
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:49:48 -0400
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Pan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > How convenient. Microsoft certified systems engineers don't need to
> > know about development issues, and now, according to you, neither do
> > microsoft certified developers. Just wait for the next fixpack to cure
> > the memory leak or page fault in our application. Better go call our
> > resident mcse so that they can tell you that rebooting will "fix" the
> > problem.
>
> No. For going on 40 years, there have always been two classes of software
> developer. The "Systems programmer" and the "Application programmer". The
> Systems developer needs to understand low-level stuff. The Applications
> developer does not. Someone doing VB or SQL is not a systems developer.
To his own peril.
If there are two ways of coding something, and ONE OS service is
incredibly more expensive than the other, then the Applications
Developer who chooses to use the more expensive method might
very well be crippling the entire system with little or no advantage.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Subject: Re: Microsoft MCSE
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 Aug 2000 18:10:39 -0600
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Pan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > How convenient. Microsoft certified systems engineers don't need to
> > know about development issues, and now, according to you, neither do
> > microsoft certified developers. Just wait for the next fixpack to cure
> > the memory leak or page fault in our application. Better go call our
> > resident mcse so that they can tell you that rebooting will "fix" the
> > problem.
>
> No. For going on 40 years, there have always been two classes of software
> developer. The "Systems programmer" and the "Application programmer". The
> Systems developer needs to understand low-level stuff. The Applications
> developer does not. Someone doing VB or SQL is not a systems developer.
Except... What does the 'S' in MCSE stand for?
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Another satisfied Linux user
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 Aug 2000 18:13:12 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> And reading through the NVidia card install that is posted is enough
> to scare the daylights out of someone trying to install the card for
> the first time.
You should see all the problems the original GeForce drivers caused to
my friend's poor Windows system.
(and, as an aside, the .94 drivers don't seem to be very stable on my
Linux box either)
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen S. Edwards II)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS advertising in the movies... (was Re: Microsoft MCSE)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 00:14:05 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathaniel Jay Lee) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
>> Hmmm... I was raised on quite a bit of PBS... I suppose
>> that explains why I look at "professional" wrestling, and
>> sneer in disbelief.
>
>"Professional" wrestling on TV is not 'real' wrestling. You have to
>remember that they are there to entertain. As such, they are actors.
Yes, I know it's not real. I just can't believe that some
people find such a thing "entertaining". I mean it's not
really even like a movie, with special effects, and a good
story.
You have a bunch of muscle-bound meatheads who couldn't
beat their way out of wet paper sack stomping around, drooling,
and acting like complete fscking morons. "Oh yeah, that's
some great stuff." :-P
>And if you happen to catch any of the WWF shows in the last year or two
>you would see that the acting far outweighs any sort of physical
>abilities these 'wrestlers' have. True, some of them are great physical
>specimens, but they are not on TV to wrestle. They are on TV to act out
>a seriously complicated play, with a lot of physical interpretive dance
>(and I won't get into the entire psychology of the acting of violence
>and the psychological state of the audience that wishes to see the
>violence).
>
>Real wrestling has its place, just realize that TV wrestling (WWF, WCW,
>ECW, etc) has nothing to do with real wrestling. It makes the watching
>much more enjoyable. And I should know. My wife started me watching
>wrestling when we started dating. Once you get past the lack of 'sport'
>in wrestling, it really is quite entertaining.
Well, not to me. I suppose I just don't get it.
--
.-----.
|[_] | Stephen S. Edwards II | http://www.primenet.com/~rakmount/
| = :| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
| -| "Even though you can't see the details, you can sense them.
| | And that is what makes great computer graphics."
|_..._| -- Robert Abel of Abel Image Research
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen S. Edwards II)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is the GDI-in-kernel-mode thing really so bad?... (was Re: Anonymous
Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 00:16:22 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <8n98oj$h71$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8n8t56$hir$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> > FVWM and Xfree86 3.x.x, compiled with -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
>> > options -m386. I compiled a few years ago when my primary workstation
>of
>> > the time which was a 386DX 16MB RAM machince.
>>
>> Ah, so you're cheating ;).
>>
>>
>
>How is that cheating?
FVWM is a small-sized wm, which doesn't nearly have
the amount of functionality that EXPLORER.EXE has.
Hence, your RAM comparison is very biased. :-)
--
.-----.
|[_] | Stephen S. Edwards II | http://www.primenet.com/~rakmount/
| = :| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
| -| "Even though you can't see the details, you can sense them.
| | And that is what makes great computer graphics."
|_..._| -- Robert Abel of Abel Image Research
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Windows stability: Alternate shells?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:16:47 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when tom would say:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> What it means is that:
>> a) If a program happens to crash, the OS underneath will basically
>> just "throw it in the trash;" the memory that _was_ consumed
>> is returned to the system for use by other processes, and is
>> returned _quite successfully._ In contrast, even with Windows
>> NT, the "more reliable" member of the Windows family, once
>> memory has been consumed by a process, the OS kernel appears
>> somewhat reluctant to return it for use by other processes.
>
>Unless you happen to have a running utility like Maxmem, which monitors
>RAM usage and allows you to force Windows to free up memory. It comes
>in very useful in multimedia work.
It sounds like something that should get included with the system
by default. There are some NT boxes at the office that get rebooted
on a daily basis due to memory not getting freed up.
>> b) If a program happens to crash, it _only_ had access to memory
>> specifically assigned to it. This _DRAMATICALLY_ diminishes
>> the ability of programs to adversely affect one another.
>>
>> c) Since programs _aren't_ stepping on one another, there are
>> vastly fewer adverse interactions.
>
>Now this is starting to ring a bell. I think I remember reading about
>this in the past, about how NT segments programs into their own
>separate memory space, perhaps similar to the way Windows does with DOS
>boxes.
Yes, and that covers things as far as _memory_ is concerned. NT
should be reasonably stable from the "apps walking on each others'
memory" perspective as it should be preventing this from happening.
However, since the Windows Registry is still a shared resource that
all processes can potentially "trample" on, you're still left with
parts of the system that can "adversely interact."
>> Entertaining analogy:
>>
>> In effect, each program is given its own "homestead," complete with
>its
>> own virtual memory space. As a result, if the program pulls out a gun
>> and starts shooting at things at random, while it may succeed at
>killing
>> _itself_, it is not likely to shoot anyone else by accident.
>> (.......................)
>> on the Uzi, bullets are likely to fly all the way through several
>> apartments.
>
>Interesting analogy. Dare I suggest that you may have played one too
>many video games? :)
Nope. I'm not much of a video games aficionado.
>> I've tried LiteStep and found it a little _less_ stable for me atop
>W95
>> than Windows Explorer; I'm sure milage can vary.
>
>Actually, I've found the same thing, despite what the LiteStep folks
>claim; especially annoying is the virtual windows manager's tendency
>to "lose" windows. (I once had to reinstall Free Agent to "find" the
>window again. It also lost the Windows File Explorer.) Also, I find
>that under alternate shells the display doesn't automatically refresh
>when I make changes in Windows File Explorer; it's kind of a pain to
>have to keep hitting F5 after every little action.
>
>> [The folks at work are going to be deploying W2K on a bunch of
>desktops;
>> it'll be interesting to see if the alternative shells help/hinder its
>> stability...]
>
>I've read in quite a few places that W2K is supposed to be better than
>its predecessors in this regard.
>
>> The _real_ problem is not in the shell; while if you can get a more
>> stable "veneer" on top, that may help _a bit_, that only improves
>> overall stability a bit, not a lot. You're still left with the
>> problem that if a device driver is a little flakey, and you use
>> an ODBC driver that has a memory leak, and you run Mozilla M17
>> that has a few bugs, and continue the sequence, you're left with
>> the overall degree of stability being based on the _product_
>> of the levels of stability rather than on the _lowest stability_,
>> as might be the case with a system like Linux that doesn't so
>> tightly integrate the components.
>
>Some of this goes over my head, but overall it seems to confirm what
>I've suspected -- that the authors of the alternate shells are being
>overly optimistic as to their work's contribution.
Yes.
>> The point of this is that when the components are a tad more
>independent,
>> the overall system improves in reliability.
>
>Which is perhaps a bit surprising; it sounds more like a recipe for
>chaos and anarchy. (kinda like the internet :) On second thought,
>maybe the internet IS a good comparison, since its various arteries can
>go down without affecting the whole network.
It is indeed a good comparison, and the fact that it seemed a bit
counterintuitive _is_ a good observation.
>> In contrast, if the "flakey" Mozilla keeps crashing on Linux, that
>should
>> have virtually _no_ persistent ill effect. If it keeps crashing, that
>> may signal some other persistent problem, but very probably _doesn't_
>> signal that you should "reboot to clean things up."
>
>In using both Win98 and Win95b, I don't think I've had that much of a
>problem with system instability. However, other than downloads, I've
>rarely done anything that required heavy, intensive use for long
>periods.
On the machine I'm using...
7:48am up 17 days, 8:50, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
>> If you've been through _that_ stone age, then none of the options
>> you see on the shelf should scare you too much. CompUSA has Caldera
>> OpenLinux on for $9.95 right now, and it is certainly a credible
>> system.
>> Corel Linux seems to get billed as the "most heavily Barney-fied"
>> of the bunch;
>> SuSE comes with a _BOATLOAD_ of software, what with 6 CDs;
>> Mandrake seems to get a lot of high marks around the local Linux
>> Users Group;
>> Red Hat has released 6.2, which gets them out of the "flakey x.0 and
>> x.1 versions" that they tend to suffer from;
>
>As I've mentioned elsewhere in this thread, I ended up getting Mandrake
>7.1 (which claims to be somewhat RedHat compatible). Almost got SuSE
>instead, since the price was the same, but since I'd already
>partitioned c: and only gave Linux 2gigs, I didn't think I'd have room
>for all the extra goodies anyway. Thought I might as well get a more
>moderate distribution to learn on.
That should work out OK. Good luck!
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
"Without insects, our ecosystem would collapse and we would all
die. In that respect, insects are far more important than mere
end-users." -- Eugene O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard says
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:31:19 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> I am not now nor ever was paid by MS. Period. This is the only NG I post to
> using this handle. Why? Because it's fun and soaks up some dead time when
> I'm just too lazy to work. Which I can do cause I own the company. I am not
So, if you are so proud of your viewpoint, why don't you post "in the
clear" ?????? HMMMMMMMMM?
Or are you afraid, as you should be, that revealing your true name
would kill your business.
> currently active in the "porn" website business, that's a venture long past.
No...it's not: "porn", it's: porn.
> I write from my own (and my companies) collective experiences working with
> companies large and small. It's not linux I hate as much as the
> stereotypical linux booster.
>
> "Christopher Browne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )
> > would say:
> > >How much does Microsoft pay these guys? Dresting Black has posted
> > >over 1559 articles to COLA, and an additional 892 articles to COMNA.
> >
> > The motivation behind this all is _quite_ confusing.
> >
> > On the one hand, it is quite evident that with the _HUGE_ amounts that
> > get written, these guys have _got_ to have some sigificant motivation,
> > or a _serious_ case of "nothing _better_ to do."
> >
> > In the case of "Tim Palmer" aka "all sorts of aliases," it would be
> > unsurprising if he's a high school student who gets his jollies out
> > of ripping virtual raspberries at Linux. It's quite a bit sad if he
> > had nothing more meaningful to do with his time than that.
> >
> > Drestin Black is a bit confusing in motivation; he writes a better
> > "spun" story which would make it not unbelievable that he might be
> > a "Microsoft contractor," paid to spin anti-Linux stories.
> >
> > While it's not greatly related to COLA, John Dyson's periodic
> > "anti-FSF harangues" on gnu.misc.discuss are a bit bewildering to me.
> > Perhaps he has some contracting work that periodically pays _very_
> > well, and then leaves him free to spend a couple months posting flames
> > on gnu.misc.discuss. I would think that there is some FreeBSD coding
> > work he could do that would be of greater benefit to him and the world
> > at large than the "driveby-flamings" on the newsgroup.
> >
> > On the other hand, I have a difficult time believing that Microsoft
> > would _want_ to have any kind of association with these people.
> >
> > Some [Toilet Paper, I mean Tim Palmer, and "Stinky Boris"] write _such_
> > worthless rubbish as to be an outright embarassment to have associated
> > with Microsoft. As a result, I can't believe that Microsoft would be
> > anywhere near to paying them.
> >
> > Drestin Black is coherent enough that it would be faintly believable,
> > although _were_ it the case, I'd expect any sort of payment to be
> > made quite indirectly. (His "porn" connections would be a bit of bad
> > publicity, irrespective of whether anyone feels that is "puritanical
> > moralism.") Directly giving these folk stock options in return for each
> > "Linux Bash" would not be good business, as since MSFT is a publicly
> > traded company, it has to be audited, and that would represent a way that
> > information would have a way to leak out to make MSFT look bad/stupid.
> >
> > The point is that if Microsoft was hiring AntiLinux Evangelists, I'd
> > expect them to hire more competent evangelists, or ones that _sound_
> > more competent. [An associate who is a near-namesake of mine actually
> > got a call from Microsoft for this very "position;" they have indeed
> > recruited amongst _QUITE COMPETENT_ people for this purpose.]
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
> > "Applicants must have *at least* five years experience with Windows
> > XCVIII..."
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen S. Edwards II)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is the GDI-in-kernel-mode thing really so bad?... (was Re: Anonymous
Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 00:37:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Funkenbusch) wrote in
<aVWl5.5485$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>You remember? I don't recall anyone saying that, since it wasn't
>originally going to compete with Unix, but Netware.
Actually Erik, Bill Gates said this a while back, in jest.
Some people unfortunately took it seriously.
--
.-----.
|[_] | Stephen S. Edwards II | http://www.primenet.com/~rakmount/
| = :| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
| -| "Even though you can't see the details, you can sense them.
| | And that is what makes great computer graphics."
|_..._| -- Robert Abel of Abel Image Research
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:33:13 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Funny how the little retard hasn't been seen since he fucked up the
> > big-endian/little-endian conversion program.
>
> Funny how you didn't show at Michigan and Central...
You wouldn't know.
>
> I have been on a vacation in Canada... you've heard of this right? it's
> called having a life outside of computers?
Yes, I have one of those.
Except when I get away, I cross the ocean.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:33:40 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> jezuz fucking christ - you claim to be a unix systems engineer - you quoted
> something like 200 lines just to make a single 1 line off-topic reply?
>
> aaron - you are really out there...
Annoys the hell out of you, doesn't it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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