Linux-Advocacy Digest #660, Volume #28 Sat, 26 Aug 00 19:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("JS/PL")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:03:57 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 26 Aug 2000 04:40:38 GMT, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:09:05 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> >>> I believe he made his position clear in other threads. Mr Kulkis is an
> >>> industrial feudalist. He believes that education is the responsibility
> >>
> >>Wrong. I oppose feudalism.
> >
> >What aspects of feudalism do you oppose ?
> >
> >>> of the parents, and if children have stupid parents, the chances are
> >>> that they are stupid as well ( since according to Kulkis, your IQ is
> >>> determined by that of your parents ) and since they are stupid, educating
> >>> them would be a waste of taxpayers money.
> >>
> >>Hey, if parents don't want their own offspring to do well,
> >>then their genetic lineage should be allowed to fulfill that wish.
> >>This eliminates the whole branch of losers from the family tree.
> >
> >Thanks for making my point.
> >
> >>> This mindset is a convenient crutch for those who oppose social mobility --
> >>> you simply declare the poor to be stupid and hence "justifiably" poor,
> >>> and the children of the wealthy to be more intelligent, hence "entitled"
> >>> to inherit positions of wealth and power in society.
> >>
> >>Name *ONE* welfare-state program which has made superior students
> >>out of ghetto and trailer park trash....
>
> Tarhe Elementary School, Lancaster Ohio.
>
Your elementary school was a welfare program?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:04:53 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:35:27 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:46:55 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >> >> -Children are already the responsibility of their parents.
> >> >>
> >> >> And children are punished for the sins of their parents?
> >> >
> >> >Darwinism in action.
> >>
> >> Darwinism is about "survival of the fittest", not "survival of the fattest".
> >
> >Those who can't feed themselves and their children are not fit.
> >QED.
>
> Again, you make the flawed assumption that the unfitness of the parents
> implies the unfitness of their children.
That's the safe way to bet.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:06:40 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:33:35 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >One doesn't need to be "filthy rich" to get an education for your kids.
>
> ... thanks to public education, which you would have dismantled.
Actually, public education usually has the *highest* per-pupil spending
[for "average" kids] while still having lousy results.
Why is that?
>
> >Hell, in some inner cities, cash-strapped parents are paying TWICE
> >for education..once through property taxes, and AGAIN to put the kid
> >into a local catholic school so that the kid will actually be taught
> >the essentials.
>
> Hahahaa ... what, you're trying to argue that catholic families suffer
> a net *LOSS* due to public funds that go to children ???
>
> >> >I'd rather see them starve to death before they start doing damage.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately for you, Mr Kulkis, they will not starve. There's so much
> >> food lying around in the US that you could sustain yourself just from
> >> eating from trash cans ( as some people do ). Under your proposed system,
> >> you would have a large beggar/criminal underclass doing considerably
> >> more damage.
> >
> >We already have such...and worse...we are subsidizing them.
>
> Well firstly, one should ask how we are "subsidising" them. If we're
> "subsidising" them by constructing homeless shelters and giving them
AFDC
WIC
Food Stamps
Section 8 Housing
etc. etc. etc.
> food, I'd consider that a good thing because it keeps them off the
> streets and out of the trash cans. On the other hand, I'd object to
> large cash handouts.
>
> However, your scheme doesn't really help. Your proposal would make this
> underclass both larger and angrier. And less complacent, since you'd
> be pushing a lot of workers ( as opposed to welfare bums ) into the
> underclass.
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:08:43 -0400
Joe Ragosta wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Donovan Rebbechi) wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:33:35 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > >One doesn't need to be "filthy rich" to get an education for your kids.
> >
> > ... thanks to public education, which you would have dismantled.
>
> Or the _voluntary_ generosity of some well-to-do people who fund private
> schools that even accept the less fortunate.
>
> >
> > >Hell, in some inner cities, cash-strapped parents are paying TWICE
> > >for education..once through property taxes, and AGAIN to put the kid
> > >into a local catholic school so that the kid will actually be taught
> > >the essentials.
> >
> > Hahahaa ... what, you're trying to argue that catholic families suffer
> > a net *LOSS* due to public funds that go to children ???
>
> Where did he say that? He merely stated that some people are
> double-paying for their kids' education.
>
> Actually, I'm triple paying--once for school taxes, once for private
> school tuition, and once for voluntary donations to the Catholic school
> in my parish (which my kids don't attend).
>
> Don't assume that everyone who gripes about too many taxes is unwilling
> to support education.
precisely. I give money to *effective* educational institutions. What
I hate is that local NEA-controlled propaganda centers pickpocketing me
under threat of confiscation of my property if I refuse to support them.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Joe Ragosta
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:11:53 -0400
Perry Pip wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:33:35 -0400,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >Hell, in some inner cities, cash-strapped parents are paying TWICE
> >for education..once through property taxes, and AGAIN to put the kid
> >into a local catholic school so that the kid will actually be taught
> >the essentials.
> >
>
> Essentials in a cathodic school?? Exactly what essentials are these
> kids learning in cathodic school? That the Bible is the law not the
Mathematics
Comprehensive Language Skills (reading, spelling, grammar, composition,
etc.)
History
> Constitution?? That the pope is infallable(tm)?? That the rhythm
Personally, I'm not a Catholic, never have been, and have fundamental
disagreements with their religious dogma.
However, given a choice, I would send my kids to a Catholic school
before sending them to a public school.
Sending a kid to a public school these days is child abuse.
> method is the best for birth control?? That some guy from 2000 years
> ago who got his ass executed for not being able to control his mouth
> is going to come back from the dead to solve all your problems if you
> just blindly believe in him and the acknowledge the church as his
> infallable(tm) authority?? Or are the kids simply learning how to
> properly let the preist fondle them, something the infallable(tm)
> church knew was going on for years and did nothing about it.
>
> And you want my taxes to pay for vouchers for that shit? No way.
>
> Perry
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:20:18 -0400
Courageous wrote:
>
> > > You are a hazard to the liberatarian party. With adherents
> > > like you, it's no wonder our support is so low.
> >
> > You don't understand the dynamics of multi-generational welfare
> > families, do you
>
> In fact, I do. But this is neither here nor there. As a progressive
> Libertarian, it truly pains me to see people like you associated with
> Libertarianism. There's virtually no chance of making political
> progress with publicate advocates like you, who don't blink at
> loudly esposing they'd like to see children die, and not considering
I'll put it this way...
*MY* children are *MY* responsibility, not society's
*YOUR* children are *YOUR* resonsibility, not society's.
If you don't want to see *YOUR* children suffer, then make
sure that *YOU* can provide for them.
If not, then don't have children. YOU do not have any right to
take from me for the purpose of supporting *YOUR* kids.
IF you want lots of kids, then go get a job that can pay for
all of them. If not, then don't blame me if you don't have
enough money to feed them all...
Is any of this getting through to you?
> for one moment the sensibilities of such statements vice the sensitivities
> of their audience. It's almost as if your political views are etherically
> connected to some delusional fantasy that you will one day be Dictator
> of America, and the opinions of those you rule therefore won't matter,
> because you'll just lay down the legal system you desire in some
> crazy fascist temper tantrum of absolute power.
>
> This isn't going to happen, Aaron. You are a fool. You are three
> times over a fool.
>
> C//
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:21:19 -0400
Eric Bennett wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Courageous
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > You are a hazard to the liberatarian party. With adherents
> > > > like you, it's no wonder our support is so low.
> > >
> > > You don't understand the dynamics of multi-generational welfare
> > > families, do you
> >
> > In fact, I do. But this is neither here nor there. As a progressive
> > Libertarian, it truly pains me to see people like you associated with
> > Libertarianism. There's virtually no chance of making political
> > progress with publicate advocates like you, who don't blink at
> > loudly esposing they'd like to see children die, and not considering
> > for one moment the sensibilities of such statements vice the sensitivities
> > of their audience.
>
> Allow me to predict his response: "This just shows that you're afraid to
> speak your convictions."
Wrong. If you can't afford to have kids, then don't have any--
you have NO right to steal from MY kids to pay for YOUR kids.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:28:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:35:27 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:46:55 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >> >> -Children are already the responsibility of their parents.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> And children are punished for the sins of their parents?
> > >> >
> > >> >Darwinism in action.
> > >>
> > >> Darwinism is about "survival of the fittest", not "survival of
> > >> the fattest".
> > >
> > >Those who can't feed themselves and their children are not fit.
> > >QED.
> >
> > Again, you make the flawed assumption that the unfitness of the
> > parents implies the unfitness of their children.
>
> That's the safe way to bet.
What is your justification for this?
--
This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
occurred during shipment.
ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:22:59 -0400
Eric Bennett wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Courageous
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > You are a hazard to the liberatarian party. With adherents
> > > > like you, it's no wonder our support is so low.
> > >
> > > You don't understand the dynamics of multi-generational welfare
> > > families, do you
> >
> > In fact, I do. But this is neither here nor there. As a progressive
> > Libertarian, it truly pains me to see people like you associated with
> > Libertarianism. There's virtually no chance of making political
> > progress with publicate advocates like you, who don't blink at
> > loudly esposing they'd like to see children die, and not considering
> > for one moment the sensibilities of such statements vice the sensitivities
> > of their audience.
>
> Allow me to predict his response: "This just shows that you're afraid to
> speak your convictions."
Dear Asshole...
Do I go around making up quotes and wrongfully attributing them to you?
A) Yes
B) NO
Now, shut up until you can at least pretend to be honest.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:26:52 -0400
"Joe Ragosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JS/PL"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> > > [...]
> > > >Even if I get what I've been promised, my lifetime return on
> > > >investment
> > > >will probably be negative or in the very low single digits. If I had
> > > >been able to invest my Social Security "contribution" in any
> > > >reasonable
> > > >investment, I'd retire extremely wealthy -by almost any standards.
> > > >
> > > >That IS theft
> > >
> > > Nobody ever made you any promises, Joe, other than you won't starve to
> > > death.
> >
> > Sound's like a good deal to me.
> > "Give us 6.2% of your gross pay all of your life and we'll allow you to
> > live
> > below the poverty level on cans of dog food slow cooked over the pilot
> > light
> > of your stove, in the dark."
>
> You forgot that your employer has to "contribute" an equal amount on
> your behalf.
>
> >
> > But I like this plan better.
> > Put away 6% in an IRA for your whole life and retire early as a
> > multi-millionair.
>
> Or 12.6%.
That's sadly true.
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:34:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eric Bennett wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Courageous
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > You are a hazard to the liberatarian party. With adherents
> > > > > like you, it's no wonder our support is so low.
> > > >
> > > > You don't understand the dynamics of multi-generational welfare
> > > > families, do you
> > >
> > > In fact, I do. But this is neither here nor there. As a
> > > progressive Libertarian, it truly pains me to see people like you
> > > associated with Libertarianism. There's virtually no chance of
> > > making political progress with publicate advocates like you, who
> > > don't blink at loudly esposing they'd like to see children die,
> > > and not considering for one moment the sensibilities of such
> > > statements vice the sensitivities of their audience.
> >
> > Allow me to predict his response: "This just shows that you're
> > afraid to speak your convictions."
>
> Dear Asshole...
>
> Do I go around making up quotes and wrongfully attributing them to
> you?
> A) Yes
> B) NO
>
> Now, shut up until you can at least pretend to be honest.
"I'd rather see them [the children of mothers on welfare] starve to
death before they start doing damage."
-Aaron R. Kulkis in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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