Linux-Advocacy Digest #660, Volume #34 Mon, 21 May 01 05:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Edward Rosten")
Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Edward Rosten")
Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux (GreyCloud)
Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Campaign: Microsoft Free by October 1st (bronsing)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: EXTRA EXTRA MS ADMITS!!!! (GreyCloud)
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (GreyCloud)
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Donn Miller)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux (Donn Miller)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (GreyCloud)
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:10:45 +0100
>> Linux was around "years ago". Yet IBM chose _not_ to use it.
>>
>
> So. You could say the same about Windows. What's your point? You
> claimed that the group of computers used by SETI was 10 times faster
> than any supercomputer. You were wrong.
One of Pete's favourite pastimes is snipping people to distort their
meaning to prove his point.
-Ed
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(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:10:28 -0700
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Said Jan Johanson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 18 May 2001 20:19:05
> > >"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> > matt - you are late to the tread and missed the point.
> > >> > however, gee, you have to ask - got 24 heat producing devices with no
> > >> > cooling and when you come back it's warm? Gosh ! How could THAT
> happen!?
> > >> > That does not address the difference between how warm it is when
> there
> > >are 8
> > >> > processors versus 12 processors in a single box.
> > >> >
> > >> > then again, visit any colocation center, examine their cooling
> capacity.
> > >> > their cooling costs are in 5 digits a month - do you really think a
> few
> > >> > bucks more anyone would notice?
> > >>
> > >> Is that between the ever increasing black outs that are occuring in
> > >California?
> > >
> > >If the hippie anti-nuke paranoids in CA would have permitted the
> > >construction of nuclear power plants as was often proposed but never
> > >permitted they wouldn't have the problem they themselves created. Nothing
> to
> > >do with cooling...
> >
> > Nonsense; the only thing that's caused any current problems is
> > price-gouging by energy producers. Profiteering, plain and simple;
> > de-regulation is a scam, not a matter of fiscally conservative politics.
>
> Um. No.
> That's part of the problem. Definately.
>
> HOWEVER, CA has refused to build new power plants. It takes 10 times the
> paperwork and approvals to get a power plant built in CA than ANYWHERE else
> in the USA. AND anti-nuke hippies simply refuse to let them be built. When
> they aren't spending their time keeping guns out of the hands of law-abiding
> citizens, and ensuring that only criminals will be fully armed and
> unconcerned with being shot back, they are fighting anything remotely
> productive or supportive of their own states infrastructure. No more roads,
> closing down more and more acres from controlled fires to prevent
> destructive uncontrolled fires and stopping the contruction of any energy
> producing structures except for the massively inefficient wind and solar
> power sites which look great for movie backdrops but are useless in feeding
> the powerhungry needs of the hippies...
>
> bah! I really REALLY hate those types of liberals - make me puke blood - but
> I can smile knowing that they are now reaping what they've sown.
Pretty much my sentiments too. I remember the 73 gas crunch and one
hippie was at a gas station trying to fill up his VW bus, which had all
the anti-oil stickers applied. He was screaming "What do you mean
you're out of GAS!?!"
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:13:34 +0100
>> Interstellar space is full of energies... and full of unseen
>> gravitational disturbances.
>>
>
> Been watching too many cheap sci-fi movies?
It may be true. The dabate still rages on about dark matter.
-Ed
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(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:14:48 +0100
>>The National Bureua of Standards has measured it to be about 88% of c.
>>It does not travel at the speed of light. Neither do electrons in a
>>copper wire.
>
> Through air, maybe; through the vacuum of space, it's a lot closer to
> 100%.
Through air, its about 99.99% c
Through empty sapce, it is c exactly.
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(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:15:05 -0700
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > >
> > > "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:9duli0$rlp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >> >> Linux improves for free. Guffaw.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > If your time is worth nothing...tee hee...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If your time is worth nothing, install Linux.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If both your time and money are worth nothing, then install
> Microsoft.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am convinced there is almost no way you attend oxford - unless
> your
> > > > > parents paid off admissions...
> > > >
> > > > Hahahaha! LOL!
> > > >
> > > > You checked the root of my email address then!
> > >
> > > why - just read the organization line... yawn...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, I've got news for you buddy, my parents didn't pay off
> admissions
> > > > (that kind of stuff doesn't happen any more) and besides if they did,
> I
> > > > would have failed my first exams with flying colours and have been
> kicked
> > > > out. Oh, BTW I passed, so I'm good enough to stay here.
> > >
> > > oh boy - you're a paper computer "expert" - yhipee
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If you still don't believe me, go to the following URL:
> > > >
> > > > http://users.ox.ac.uk
> > > >
> > > > And look under my name under private pages. If you're lazy, here's a
> > > > short cut:
> > > >
> > > > http://users.ox.ac.uk/~scat1148/
> > > >
> > >
> > > wow - impressive - NOT
> >
> > For a swede you aren't too bright! Were you a victim of an avalance?!
>
> That's VERY poor taste and an obvious sign of desperation in the face of
> failing logic on your part to attack my nationality.
Ok. I won't attack your nationality. After a while we all won't have a
nationality anyway.
But then again, your tastes in arguing with others could use a lot of
improvements.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:17:22 -0700
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9e84rp$7v3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> You checked the root of my email address then!
> > >
> > > why - just read the organization line... yawn...
> >
> > Hmm. The news server must be putting that in.
>
> You didn't know this? Scarey...
>
> >
> > >> Well, I've got news for you buddy, my parents didn't pay off admissions
> > >> (that kind of stuff doesn't happen any more) and besides if they did, I
> > >> would have failed my first exams with flying colours and have been
> > >> kicked out. Oh, BTW I passed, so I'm good enough to stay here.
> > >
> > > oh boy - you're a paper computer "expert" - yhipee
> >
> > And you're not *even* a paper expert.
>
> Actually - I am but I recognize that degrees from university and
> certifications mean very little compared to exerience which is why I don't
> list mine -- I just speak from first hand experience in the trenches.
> Nothing means more than experience.
Now this part I wholeheartedly agree with. Experience is the best!
>
> >
> > Besides, who said anything about doing a computer degree? I'm an
> > engineer, actually and the degree coruse does not involve much computing.
>
> So you know even less about computing than even a paper expert on
> computing...
>
> >
> >
> > >> http://users.ox.ac.uk/~scat1148/
> > >>
> > >
> > > wow - impressive - NOT
> >
> > You asked for some kind of proof. Other than that, I've not got enough
> > time to piss about with HTML.
>
> Sure... what's this HTML thing anyway, not like it's important or
> anything... never mind...
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:17:53 +0100
>> > I think the SETI program is a farce! No offense to you, but I often
>> > wonder what good does it do them? Radio waves travel a little slower
>> > than the speed of light.
>>
>> Radio waves travel *exactly* at the speed of light, since they're the
>> same stuff.
>>
>
> I thought you were educated? Time to go back to class...
>
> radio waves travel slower than light...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
I love that: saying you thought I was educated, then contradicting my
correct statement with complete gibberish.
If you don't believe me, solve Maxewell's equation in free space with
periodic (in time) boundery conditions. You'll find that if the
permitivity is independent of frequency, (which it is in free space) then
the velocity of propogation of waves is independent of frequency too.
In free space, radio waves travel at *exactly* the speed of light.
-Ed
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(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
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From: bronsing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Campaign: Microsoft Free by October 1st
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:27:40 +0200
Nigel Feltham wrote:
>
> rn about linux, the more I'm impressed.
> >
> > Me: BBC --> Amiga 500 --> Windows 95 --> Linux
> >
>
> Similar for me:-
>
> Sinclair Spectrum > Texas TI99/4A > Acorn Electron > BBC > DosPlus&GEM
> (running on Master512 board on BBC B) > MSDOS ( first 5.0 then 6.2) > Win95
> > Linux (plus win98 for the occasional game, rarely used now most run under
> wine).
Hmmm, sounds familiar :
ZX-81 -> TI-99/4A -> MS-DOS -> W95 -> linux (MS free at home)
--
Robert Bronsing
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:29:44 +0200
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
In article <jnZN6.2473$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Funkenbusch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 6502 was superior to the 68000 in many ways. For instance, nearly
> all instructions took only a single clock cycle to execute, but the
> 68000 had more cycles available.
>
>
>
Sorry to interrupt you Erik, but I've done some 6502 assemly programming.
The instructions may *execute* in a single cycle, but the architecture was
horribly innefficient in that it had to do all its data processing in
memory, thus spending a lot of cycles just fetching data.
For example LDA #$ff, which would load the accumulator with the value FF
would actually take 3 cycles to complete, according to the C64 reference
manual. (IIRC, it could have been 2 cycles, but the point stands)
Mart
--
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Gimme back my youth for the dead man's curve
For that icy feel when you start to swerve
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EXTRA EXTRA MS ADMITS!!!!
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:35:20 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> >Note that current HP 9000's are Itanium *READY*, and have chipsets
> > >> >compatible with Itanium, but are not shipping Itaniums.
> > >>
> > >> Okay, same instruction set and same pin set also.
> > >>
> > >> But it's not the same chip then.
> > >>
> > >> Well, okay....
> > >
> > >I'm not sure if they have the same pinouts or not. Their chipsets might
> > >reroute the pins depending on which processor is installed. But, even if
> it
> > >is the same pinout, it doesn't mean much. It's the internal architecture
> of
> > >the CPU that is the difference between EPIC and RISC, not its pinout.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Instruction sets are meaningless unless there's specific hardware
> > inside the chip to tie the operations to specific hardware
> > functions. We are not trying to say that one or the other
> > is an emulation....
>
> Certainly Itanium *IS* emulating PA-RISC as well as x86.
>
> http://www.hp.com/products1/itanium/advantage/aries.html
>
> "With our Aries emulator that will be bundled with all ItaniumT processor
> family systems, you can execute PA-RISC applications"
>
> > Further, since they have the same chip pins and the 9000's
> > are therefore compatible with this new chip already, it's
> > safe to say the only thing this manuever is doing is transfering
> > the burden and cost from one Intel subsidy to the main body.
> >
> > There may be some slight improvement in newer chips, but
> > the architecture is the same...
>
> You don't appear to understand what a processor architecture is. It's
> architecture includes such things as pipelining, branch prediction and
> speculation, loop unrolling, etc... these are all wildly different from the
> PA-RISC chip, and despite what you want to believe, they're not
> pin-compatible, since these processors are installed in "packages" and not
> plugged directly into the motherboard.
>
But these are for the processing efficiencies... not the actual
instruction set.
Hp did say on their web site that the PA series can execute the IA-64
instruction set.
What Hp didn't say was if an emulator was needed or not. But emulating
another processor would only be slow, so I don't think that this is what
Hp is doing.
> > So therefore, Intel is sitting on this chip until MS get's
> > it OS ready for market. Without MS's approval the chip
> > wouldn't make a grand slam on the market.
>
> You still haven't a clue what you're talking about.
>
> > Now, if you want to continue to pick bones with me about
> > the model numbers on the two chips or the fact one has
> > double or 4 times the cache the predicessor had, that's
> > fine. The point I'm trying to make is architecturally
> > the two chips are identical. And it doesn't require
> > 2-3 years for a simple expansion of an already existing
> > and proven design in use by an Intel subsidary.
>
> They are nothing alike. In fact, the way that you upgrade the L-class
> HP-9000 is with a board level replacement.
>
> http://www.hp.com/products1/unixservers/entrylevel/lclass/infolibrary/sysgui
> de.html
>
> > I'm still tickled PINK that this was a RISC design.
> > Imagine that! After all that BEEFING between Intel
> > and Motorola. Intel is just admitting they were
> > meatheads so they are stealing their design concept!
>
> HP created EPIC, and teamed up with Intel to create Itanium. EPIC is not
> RISC, and Itanium is not RISC.
>
> > You know, an HP rep told me that to compare the performance
> > of one of the G4 chips in a MAC and this new IA-64, there
> > would be no difference. He said I was drooling on
> > the wrong machine. Now I know what he was really refering
> > to. What he was trying to say was that RISC is RISC...
>
> Yeah, I'm sure he did. Just like he told you that you were buying IA64
> HP9000's, right?
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:42:25 -0700
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9e5usm$ib0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Not on W2K - what OS do you use that has that fear?
> >
> > Win2k, running Netscape 6. Then second time, Win2k running Windows
> > Mediaplayer, copying some stuff from my USB Zip 100 Drive to my hard disk,
> > and surfing the net.
> >
>
> There is your problem - crappy netscape
You mean crappy nutscrape 6.0... gawd that version is so slow and buggy!
I downloaded it into Solaris and its real slow and quits a lot.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:45:08 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9e5v0u$idd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Yes, they do, or they are not code reviews.
> > >
> > > Wow, suddenly, reviewing code isn't a code review simply because it
> > doesn't
> > > review every line in a program. Do you have any idea how long it would
> > take
> > > to review 35 million lines of code?
> >
> > Had they got it right the first time, they wouldn't need to review 35
> > Million lines of code. Also, they would have programmed more efficiently,
> > and it wouldn't have bloated to 35 Million lines of code vs. the 6 or so
> > million Solaris 8 04/01 has.
>
> Oh, right. The same can be said about Linux. If Linus had got it right the
> first time, we wouldn't need a 2.4 kernel, or a 2.2 kernel or a 2.0 kernel
> for that matter.
So? The same can be said for Win95 to Win98 to Win98SE to WinMe, and now
its NT to Win2K to XP.
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 04:47:49 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Jan Johanson wrote:
> I thought you were educated? Time to go back to class...
>
> radio waves travel slower than light...
They're both electromagnetic waves.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:48:58 -0700
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > Here's Microsoft's version of standardization: If another company has
> > a protocol we want, let's make it Open Source; If we have a protocol
> > everyone else wants, let's keep it proprietary so everyone has to come
> > to us just for everything.
>
> Now what was it Linus Torvald said... he who owns the copyright?
>
> > You really fail to grasp the concept that
> > Microsoft is a predatory company and does not have the interests of
> > the computing masses in mind.
>
> It's called Standard Business Practice. Are there any business's out
> there that don't do this?
>
> What did Sun do with Java? They tried to submit it to a standards body
> but wanted to keep control of it. That went a little awry, did it not?
>
> --
> Pete
Isn't that what MS is trying to do with C#??
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:51:04 -0700
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > Of course a professional is required to go above and beyond the call of
> > duty.
>
> So in order to use Linux you need to be a professional? In order to use
> Windows you don't need to be. It just works.
>
> --
> Pete
So does Linux,... it just works... so does Solaris... it just works.
Now if you are installing VMS you need to go to school first.
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 04:53:51 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux
GreyCloud wrote:
> up and possibly some added features. MAC OS X is based, from what I've
> managed to gather info about, on the Carnegie-Mellon unix with a lot of
> enhancements in the GUI area.
Actually, no, Mac OS-X is based on the FreeBSD kernel and the CMU Mach
microkernel.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:55:10 -0700
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > > The Intel one only runs on Windows. They chose it because it's the most
> > > popular.
> >
> > Are you claiming that SETI will not run on Linux on x86?
>
> No, I'm saying the Intel one doesn't run on anything except Windows.
>
> --
> Pete
Go back to the SETI page... they have their program for linux x86 as
well.
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > > The Intel one only runs on Windows. They chose it because it's the most
> > > popular.
> >
> > Are you claiming that SETI will not run on Linux on x86?
>
> No, I'm saying the Intel one doesn't run on anything except Windows.
>
> --
> Pete
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:55:56 -0700
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > > The Intel one only runs on Windows. They chose it because it's the most
> > > popular.
> >
> > What crap. I have been running seti on sparc linux and intel linux for
> > months.
>
> Yes, you can run the SETI one, but can you run the cancer research one on
> Linux?
Whats that got to do with SETI??
>
> --
> Pete
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:59:17 -0700
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > Pete probably means "Linux install can't do it for me automatically".
>
> Correct. If Windows can do it seamlessly, why can't Linux?
>
> --
> Pete
Trouble is tho, that windows does not install seamlessly on a computer
that isn't from a large vendor like IBM, HP,etc. When you have video,
sound, and other hardware, you have to supply each CD or disk from each
vendor during the install process. Sometimes this doesn't always work
from the vendors disk and can get in the way of windows completing an
install.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 02:01:31 -0700
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > >Windows 9x maybe, but not so Windows 2000.
> >
> > Yes, and XP to boot.
>
> That's your dogma.
>
> > >Can Linux do 3D sound yet? It's built into Windows but not so easy on Linux.
> >
> > "Can X do N yet?" is not a sign of technological advancement; that's all
> > just market grind bullshit. You gotta get it rock-solid
> > industrial-quality, first, THEN you can start wondering if W2K *might*
> > be somewhere near the technology standard of Linux.
>
> You gotta get Linux desktop up to scratch before it can even compete with
> Windows (98).
Hahaha... Win98 is far inferior to linux. Linux won't BSOD you to death
like Win98 can.
>
> --
> Pete
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 02:03:02 -0700
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> GreyCloud wrote:
> >
> >Possibly... but in a nuclear reactor there is a phenomena known as the
> >"Blue Light" effect. The gov. has concluded that the blue light are
> >photons travelling faster than the speed of light... sort of a doppler
> >effect.
> >
> >--
>
> Funny thing. The last physicist from a sub I met told me the same
> thing. They were particles which never slowed down below the
> speed of light.
>
> So interstellar travel is possible.
>
> --
> Charlie
> -------
Yes, but when researched further, it shows the possibility of alternate
realities. Now one can wonder if any of these alternate realities obey
the same laws of physics??
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 02:04:50 -0700
Karel Jansens wrote:
>
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
> > Possibly... but in a nuclear reactor there is a phenomena known as the
> > "Blue Light" effect. The gov. has concluded that the blue light are
> > photons travelling faster than the speed of light... sort of a doppler
> > effect.
>
> I do not recall of any mentioning of Cherenkov radiation achieving super-c
> speeds. Maybe you are confusing with the scifi term "pseudo-cherenkov
> radiation" (which IIRC is supposed to be pink, rather than blue) from Joe
> Haldeman's novel 'the Forever War"? He reasoned that tachyons, used in
> esoteric propulsion systems, would emit an eerie pink glow as they
> "returned into their own reality".
> --
> Regards,
>
> Karel Jansens
> ===============================================================
> Has anybody ever wondered why Microsoft launched Windows 95
> with a song that contains the line: "You make a grown man cry"?
>
> Oh, wait...
> ===============================================================
No, it was researched by NRO. Most of academia is way behind what
research is doing.
However, MIT is doing a lot of research in some rather bizarre areas
these days.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 02:05:44 -0700
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > Possibly... but in a nuclear reactor there is a phenomena known as the
> > "Blue Light" effect. The gov. has concluded that the blue light are
> > photons travelling faster than the speed of light... sort of a doppler
> > effect.
>
> That can happen in a non vacuum, since e0 decreases with frequency so c
> increases.
>
That's what our contracted out professors told us as well. It really is
eerie to watch.
> -Ed
>
> --
> (You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
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