Linux-Advocacy Digest #182, Volume #29 Mon, 18 Sep 00 14:13:08 EDT
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Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT (Mike Byrns)
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT (Mike Byrns)
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (Richard)
Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT ("JS/PL")
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (Richard)
Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:54:03 GMT
Aaron forgot the tinfoil lining for his cap again!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charles Kooy wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Charles Kooy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Charles Kooy wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Charles Kooy wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Charles Kooy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > Left-wing social causes (global warming
> > > > > > > > > > > propaganda)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Uhm, what precisely is 'left wing' about global
warming? I think
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > > majority of people would refer to it as an issue
that concerns
> > > > > everyone.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "global warming" is a NON-event that the Left is
trying to use to
> > > > > > > > > weaken the economies of capitalist economies.
> > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > > > Why would the Left want to weaken the economies of
non-capitalist
> > > > > > > > countries?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Spot the deliberate mis-quote.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ever notice who the non-capitalist countries which sign
onto
> > > > > > > idiot-pacts like the Kyoto Accords are never called on to
> > > > > > > change THEIR production techniques (even though these same
> > > > > > > countries put FAR more C02 into the air than western
countries
> > > > > > > for the same number of goods produced.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > The Kyoto accord was/is fatally flawed in many different
ways. Many
> > > > > > third world countries consider it unfair that they, who are
just
> > > > > > developing their industrial infrastructure, should be
subject to the
> > > > > > same emmission controls that rich countries have set,
especially when
> > > > > > those rich countries have spent the last 150 years chucking
every kind
> > > > > > of crap about. That pisses them off because their
development may be
> > > > > > stifled, as they may not be able to afford the cleaner
equipment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nevertheless, this does not mean that global warming does
not exist
> > > > >
> > > > > Whether global warming exists or not (and the only data that
supports
> > > > > the conjecture is from weather stations that existed before
> > > > > industrialization which are now buried in the middle of local
> > > > > concrete-jungle hot-spots.
> > > > >
> > > > > Temperature data from RURAL weather stations shows ***NO
CHANGE***
> > > > > for the last 100 years.
> > > >
> > > > Yet temperatures at the Poles is rising, and there is also a
still
> > > > growing hole in the Ozone layer (though the latter may,
admittedly, be a
> > > > natural fluctuation - difficult to judge with the very limited
amount of
> > >
> > > Natural fluctuation...In other words, a NON-ISSUE.
> >
> > Please read what I wrote. I wrote 'MAY'. It isn't definite either
way.
> > We need more data.
>
> It is the HIGHT OF ARROGANCE to consider that man has even a noticable
> impact on climate, short of redirecting water and latent-heat flow by
> rerouting a river from one body of water to another (like what is
being
> done in China).
>
> >
> > > Do you know *WHY* the ozone-layer thins over the south pole during
> > > the southern-hemisphere winter?
> >
> > Yes, I do.
> >
> > > 1) Ozone is produced by ultraviolet rays interacting with oxygen
> > > atoms in the upper atmosphere
> >
> > Amongs other things
>
> Name one other source in the upper atmosphere.
>
> >
> > > 2) Ozone breaks down over time
> >
> > Accelerated by a number of artificially introduced chemicals
>
> The biggest destroyer of ozone is Chlorine....99.95% of which
> is introduced into the atmosphere BY THE OCEANS.
>
> Admiral Byrd detected increased UV radiation at the South Pole
> around the year 1900.
>
> There is ***ZERO*** data to support the *conjecture* that the
> ozone layer is thinner now than it was 100 years ago...let alone
> that it is due to the behavior of man.
>
> >
> > > 3) Any airmasss which doesn't get exposed to ultraviolet light
> > > experiences a decrease in ozone levels
> >
> > True
> >
> > > 4) Each polar region experiences a 90-day "night" during that
> > > hemisphere's winter.
> >
> > True
> >
> > > QED.
> > >
> >
> > Actually, I suspect that the factors are rather more complex than
that,
> > and I'd rather get an atmospheric scientist's opinion on this.
>
> Is chemistry that difficult for you?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > historical data available on that particular issue). There is a
lot of
> > > > ice at the poles. What do you think will happen when that ice
starts
> > > > melting. Nothing?
> > >
> > > No such thing is happening. A 2-mile hole in the cap was cleared
by
> > > ice-breakers as a PUBLICITY STUNT. If this were a GENUINE
process,
> > > then the whole ice cap would have been broken up....not PACKED
LIKE
> > > A GLACIER as shown in the publicity-stunt photograph.
> >
> > Please read what I wrote. I wrote 'WHEN that ice starts melting'.
> > However, icebergs are being seen earlier and in larger quantities
than
> > in the past. That suggests that something is causing the ice to
break
> > up.
>
> Shit happens. In the late 1600's, there was ONE YEAR, which
> contemporary
> writers called, "The Year Without a Summer" wherein the entire
> spring/summer/fall sequence of months had temperatures approximately
> 20 F degrees (12 C) lower than normal.
>
> How did mankind induce this anomoly, and what did we due to restore
> the prevailing climate to normal?
>
> >
> > I've not heard of Icebreakers being used for a publicity stunt. And
if
>
> Go find the photos...it's quite obvious that a patch was cleared with
> some sort of sea-fencing. The perimeter of the North Pole "hole"
> is clogged with piled-up sheet-ice....indicative of "crop-circle"
> shenanigans.
>
> > they had they'd have wandered about bits of frozen sea, not the cap
> > itself, because it is several miles thick. Not something that any
>
> Then how come US nuclear subs REGULARLY find hole and surface at
> the North Pole??? They have been doing this continously for over
> 40 years.
>
> > Icebreaker can take on, and it will take an awfully long of time for
> > that to melt.
>
> It was either pushed aside by using some sort of "bulldozer method",
> or a perimeter gradually expanded by netting while boats outside
> the perimeter broke up the sheet-ice.
>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Global warming is all about providing an excuse for removing
personal
> > > > > freedoms, and implementing more socialism as an attempt to
keep those
> > > > > who are rich and powerful (Kennedys, Rockefellers, Rothchilds,
etc.)
> > > >
> > > > Aha - I see you feel it necessary to single out a Catholic
family and
> > > > two Jewish ones.
> > >
> > > Fuck you, racist pig. Religion has nothing to do with
it...Plutocratic
> > > behavior does.
> >
> > Thank you. You are most charming. One would have to be warped indeed
to
>
> I'm just returning your favors, asshole.
> If you don't like crap, then don't be dishing it out.
>
> > interpret what I wrote as racist, while it is easy for an impartial
> > reader to do so with your words of wisdom.
> >
> > >
> > > > Do you have a problem with them, or were they just the
> > > > first to come to mind?
> > >
> > > They are the best known wealthy-assholes in these parts. They are
> > > all known for pandering to the poor by promoting legislation that
> > > is harmful to anybody trying to improve their own personal
economic
> > > situation.
> > >
> > > Socialism is merely a way for the "kings of the mountain" to
> > > a) install underground refrigeration to freeze the mountain side,
and
> > > b) hose down the mountain side with water until it's covered with
> > > a sheet of ice...
> > >
> > > All at the expense of those on the bottom
> > >
> > > The quicker you and your friends figure this out, the sooner you
> > > will be allowed to KEEP YOUR OWN MONEY.
> >
> > I should make clear that I am a capitalist. A gentle one,
admittedly,
> > but a capitalist nonetheless. And I've plenty of money. Thanks for
your
> > concern, though.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > at the top by utterly destroying the means for anybody else to
> > > > > rise withing the socio-economic structure.
> > > >
> > > > Really? How do you explain the increase in the number of
> > > > multi-millionaires over the last 40 or so years? They seem to
have done
> > > > pretty well... Not to mention the substantial growth in the size
of the
> > > > middle classes since the 1950's, and particularly since the
early
> > > > 1980's.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > ^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > That corresponds QUITE WELL with Reagan's initiatives to reduce
> > > socialism
> >
> > This would be the same Reagan who cranked up the US deficit to a
quite
> > astonishing degree, no? But I was actually thinking of many
countries
>
> More typical fucking marxist disinformation bullshit lies.
>
> The president doesn't have the authority to spend a single penny.
>
> Reagan chided congress into lowering taxes. The economic growth
> that ensued caused tidal wave of increased tax revenues...
> But the DEMOCRATS (i.e. Marxist socialists) decided that this would
> be horrible to let go unmolested, so they INCREASED SPENDING at
> such a rate that for every new dollar of tax revenues, the Democrats
> enacted THREE dollars of spending increases.
>
> > around the western world - you know, the Scandinavian ones, Germany,
The
> > Benelux, France, heck, even Italy and Spain. Not just the US.
> >
> > Of course, having seen your posts around Usenet (and some of your
> > outlandish claims) I know that you consider all of Europe to employ
a
> > more extreme form of Stalinism as its favoured political system, but
> > hey, it doesn't seem to have done them much harm.
> >
> > Excuse me, I've just got to go off and polish up my black helicopter
and
> > get me some running dog capitalist lackeys! ;-)
>
> Strange how the more capitalistic the country, the better it's
> economy AND standard of living for ALL citizens is..
>
> >
> > ck
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
>
> C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
> sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
> that she doesn't like.
>
> D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
>
> E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (D) above.
>
> F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
> response until their behavior improves.
>
> G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues
against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> H: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
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From: Mike Byrns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:00:57 -0500
"J.C." wrote:
>
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:44:12 -0500, James Stutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"C Lund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >
> >> Sounds like the difference between W2K and W98 are all "beneath the hood".
> >> WHich means the Win GUI still sucks the bowel movements of a flyblown
> >> carcass.
> >
> >That must explain why so many window managers attempt to replicate it.
>
> Suppose it must be the familiarity thing (fvwm95 for example.)
But why? So many anti-Microsoft folks are quick to tell you how
abhorrent the Windows interface is. Familiar or not it should not be
replicated if they feel it that bad.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:56:30 GMT
What school was it you said you didn't go to?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Joe R." wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Joe R." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Joe R." wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is the HIGHT OF ARROGANCE to consider that man has even
a
> > > > > > > noticable
> > > > > > > impact on climate,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the height of lunacy to refuse to consider it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've considered. Then I've looked at the numbers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take ALL CO2-producing human activity on the face of the
planet, and
> > > > > it amounts to a mere fraction OF JUST THE TERMITES (1/20th, to
be
> > > > > exact).
> > > >
> > > > First of all, I doubt your numbers. Please feel free to provide
them.
> > > >
> > > > Second, CO2 is not the only greenhouse gas. In fact, it's one of
the
> > > > weakest. There are materials which have many orders of magnitude
higher
> > > > greenhouse effect.
> > >
> > > Yes. Water Vapor is the biggest. Of which the primary sources
are
> > > evaporation from the oceans, and animal respiration.
> >
> > Water vapor has only a very tiny greenhouse effect, although its
high
> > concentration does make the total impact significant.
> >
> > HOWEVER, water vapor is often an anti-greenhouse gas since clouds
tend
> > to _reduce_ temperature.
> >
> > But as I said, you're ignoring the impact of chemicals which have
orders
> > of magnitude higher greenhouse impact than CO2. Fluorocarbons.
> > Bromocarbons. And so on.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Third, you're assuming that greenhouse gases are the only impact
humans
> > > > have had on the environment. They're not.
> > >
> > > The forces of nature are FAR stronger than those of man.
> > > Leave a building unheated in Michigan for 5 years, and it will
most
> > > likely be in very sorry shape, if not a pile of rubble.
> >
> > That may be true. But that doesn't make your statement (that man can
> > have no impact on the climate) any less stupid.
>
> I didn't say "no" impact...I said "insignificant" when compared to all
> other processes.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
>
> C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
> sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
> that she doesn't like.
>
> D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
>
> E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (D) above.
>
> F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
> response until their behavior improves.
>
> G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues
against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> H: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:04:47 GMT
In article <Ervw5.75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >I wonder how the eco-paranoids can explain the ice ages and
> tropical
> > > > > >fossils well north of 40 degrees North latitude which
occurred many
> > > > > >millions of years before the rise of man.
> > > >
> > > > > Plate Tectonics. Look it up.
> > > >
> > > > I know that. I was wondering how the eco-nuts would explain it
since
> they
> > > > claim that man is responsible for climatic changes, etc. --
> > >
> > > They are not exclusive. Just because there are non-human processes
> > > that lead to climatic changes, doesn't necessarily mean that human
> > > processes can't also lead to climatic change.
> > >
> > > The big problem with human-induced climatic change is the time
scale
> > > involved. If human processes accelerate climatic change, causing a
> > > change that would normally take hundreds or thousands of years to
> > > occur happen in years or decades, the amount of time available to
> > > adjust and survive becomes reduced, making it harder for us to
adapt
> > > to it.
> >
> > Name one. Please provide concree, unassailable evidence that
> > can prove (beyond any doubt or controversy) that without human
> > activity, the climatic change would have happened more slowly.
> >
> > Name ..just...one.
>
> My god, that sounds just like something Edwin would have said.
>
> > > For example, human beings possess the power to change the climate
in
> > > a matter of days; if there was a full scale nuclear war, winter
> > > would almost certainly follow within days and last for years.
> >
> > When have we done this?
>
> Noone's saying we have.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It's the same problem with genetic engineering. A migration of
genes
> > > from the Arctic Char to the tomato can happen; however, normally
> > > that would take several million years. We managed to do it in less
> > > than ten. The rapid change in the genome means that other species
> > > that are parasitical/symbiotic/competitive with the tomato only
have
> > > a very short period of time to adjust, if they need to.
> >
> > That is not CLIMATE, fool.
>
> It's an example to illustrate how humans can enact change over a
vastly
> shorter timespan than would have normally occurred.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Now, let's suppose that someone makes an alteration to wheat that
> > > makes it very successful. The new more successful wheat crowds out
> > > the older varieties quickly because it is far more able to survive
> > > in its niche. However, there's one problem with this imaginary
> > > wheat; the change has also rendered it inedible to humans. What do
> > > you do then?
> > >
> > > Jack
> > > Montreal PQ
> > > CANADA
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> > I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > you are lazy, stupid people"
> >
> > J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> >
> > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> >
> > B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
> >
> > C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
> > sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
> > that she doesn't like.
> >
> > D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> > E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (D) above.
> >
> > F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
> > response until their behavior improves.
> >
> > G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues
against
> > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> >
> > H: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> What the hell are you trying to prove? Your overly long signature
seems to
> suggest you have a problem with insecurity.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Sam
He's trying, and failing, to prove that he can get by without his
medication.
>
>
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From: Mike Byrns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:13:05 -0500
JS/PL wrote:
>
> "Joe R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JS/PL"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Joe R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > >
> > > > That's right. All those things are in the NT 5 kernel, aka Win2K.
> Which
> > > > is exactly what Chad and Alan have been saying.
> > >
> > > No such thing as an NT 5 kernel.
> >
> > Sure it is. Until around Beta 3, Microsoft called it NT 5. They changed
> > its name to Win2K at that time.
> >
> > For all practical purposes, Win2K is NT 5.
>
> I know that the name change was announced on or around October 98, it
> doesn't change the fact that references made to NT5 are false.
> When the Windows 2000 final release code was compiled Dec. 1999 it was not
> known as NT 5, it was known as Windows 2000.
> >
> > >
> > > Why don't we just make up personalized names for everything? That will
> > > surely be of benefit to all wont it?
> > >
> > > Boy I saw (aka heard) that Rhapsody (aka OSX) sure is doing bad (aka
> good)
> > > in its retail release (aka beta release)
> >
> > Idiot.
>
> How is Rhapsody 2.0 doing?
Nah, it's OPENSTEP/Mach 5.0 with Macintosh Emulation!
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:18:41 GMT
Matthias Warkus wrote:
> You remind of that guy who said that Emacs should not have a feature
> that asks you whether you really want to discard a file if you
> quit... I asked the guy: "What about people losing 120-page novel
> manuscripts by accidentally hitting C-x C-c?"
If you have orthogonal persistence then you don't need to close
Emacs for any reason. If you have versioning, then you're going
to be able to retrieve buffers that Emacs discarded so long as you
do it before the filesystem has used up /every/ other part of the
hard disk and now needs to overwrite that one.
Training wheels deliberately cripple users of a system as a response
to the system itself being Broken By Design.
If the system can't figure out a way to recover from catastrophic
mistakes then it is broken. This is a far more stringent and user-
friendly position than the one you're defending; that you should
handhold inexperienced users until they can walk through the
valley of tears on their own (or they think they can) and they find
a pit you forgot to warn them about and break their neck.
Destroying one's own work by accident is going to make anyone
feel stupid. But I don't think an acceptable solution to that should
still make users feel stupid. Additionally, warning boxes just don't
work since users learn to ignore them! In Windows, I've learned
to just click "next" automatically when I install an application, and
I'm seriously pissed off when the last step turned out to be "Do you
want to reboot your computer?" And not at myself, at the OS for
giving the application authority to reboot the computer when I
would never want it to do any such thing!
> He said that it would teach them to be careful in the future.
>
> Yeah sure.
>
> Your kind of person probably never does any meaningful productive
> work that deserves to be saved and protected. *I* have lost a 120-page
> novel fragment because I had a misconception about the way CR/LF
> conversion works. The disaster could have been prevented by a little
> protective logic in a stupid little GNU tool (recode). I am not only
> angry at me, but angry at recode, too.
That's happened to me, although never with that magnitude. And
this is the exact kind of stuff that I want to prevent. My point is
only that your anger is misdirected and that the entirety of your
anger should be aimed at the FS.
*Please* don't ever accuse me of having the asshole programmer
mentality ever again.
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Id Software developer prefers OS X to Linux, NT
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:16:06 -0400
"Chad Irby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I know that the name change was announced on or around October 98, it
> > doesn't change the fact that references made to NT5 are false.
> > When the Windows 2000 final release code was compiled Dec. 1999 it was
not
> > known as NT 5, it was known as Windows 2000.
>
> So by renaming it, it's a whole new product?
>
> What a great idea! Nobody ever has to change anything! They just have
> to alter the name, and it's a whole new thing!
How bout we all follow Apples lead and just change the color of the box.
Name isn't the only difference between what was an early build of NT5 and
what is Windows 2000 final (Pro, and Servers).
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:24:05 GMT
Matthias Warkus wrote:
> It was the Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:24:21 GMT...
> ...and Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And I understand now what Mawa said about the
> > most obnoxious assholes not programming nor
> > contributing anything.
>
> I never said that, and I hereby request that you cease to attribute
> "quotations" to me which are mostly fiction.
Well, someone did. Actually, I think it was Donovan who
said that the most obnoxious Linuxers aren't the ones
who contribute, and you asked me if I believed that people
complaining about Real Lazy users even program at all.
Sorry to have mixed things up.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:09:40 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:jIrx5.2580$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Apples to oranges. Windows must detect all it's hardware, Linux is free
to
> only detect what it wants to. Windows supports thousands more devices
than
> Linux does, and probes must be done for each of them. This takes much
> longer.
This statement may valid only so long as you fail to consider the hardware
of platforms that Linux supports and Windows does not and the hardware that
Windows has dropped support for that Linux still supports.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.ms.windows.advocacy,comp.ms.windows-nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:20:02 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:pDrx5.2576$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8q4dcn$ha7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Then how can you explain Linux using eight IDE harddrives or other IDE
> > devices on a computer with a BIOS that only knows about two drives?
Linux
> > can handle up to sixteen harddrives on one computer. What is the
Windows
> ME
> > upper limit for the same situation?
>
> Linux can only handle IDE controllers that it has drivers for. Same with
> Windows.
I have worked with a large variety of IDE controllers ISA, PCI, on the M/B,
and I have yet to encounter one that Linux can not handle. If Linux has has
a the drivers to take advantage of the special features of the controllers
it will can use them; otherwise it uses the generic IDE controller driver
and they still work. If the controllers use an oddball port address or
interupt then the Linux kernel can be informed of that at boot time or
module load time and guess what? Those controllers still work.
You have not answered the question, "What is the Windows ME upper limit for
the same situation?".
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