Linux-Advocacy Digest #182, Volume #31 Tue, 2 Jan 01 03:13:02 EST
Contents:
[Fwd: [MDLUG] 2.4.0 final is almost out.] ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Les Mikesell")
Re: COM on UNIX ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux vs Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Question with Security on Linux/Unix versus Windows NT/2000 ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: [MDLUG] 2.4.0 final is almost out.]
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 02:12:12 -0500
Art Dries wrote:
>
> 2.4-test is almost through testing, and is at an official code freeze.
>
> Just need to aggressively test 2.4.0-prerelease and fix
> any minor bugs (2 weeks tops)
>
> Art Dries | .~.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /V\
> http://www.acs.oakland.edu/~afdriesi/ | // \\
> http://www.thewild.com/~art/ | /( )\
> | ^'~'^
> The opinions expressed by the above named | TUX
> individual in no way are representative of | GNU/Linux
> the students, faculty, professors, janitors, |
> small woodland animals, and other gainfully | Coming soon
> employed people at Oakland University. | To a desktop near you
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 07:29:50 GMT
Where do I find documentation for all the new things that can be
done from the command line? The help system doesn't seem to
know anything about them.
NOTE: adding to the top of a post instead of the bottom leads to
post snipping.
"Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:HXe46.115787$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Windows 2000: Professional w/Telnet service.
>
> NOTE: Post snipping can lead to misinformation.
>
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ePe46.53150$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:OTa46.115564$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Yea, 20 years too late.
> > >
> > > The point was you were exclaiming that Windows DIDN'T have the ability
> to
> > > mimic the functionality provided by telnet and a UNIX shell
interpreter.
> > >
> > > It clearly does.
> > >
> > > And you change the subject.
> > >
> > > Big surprise.
> >
> > Which version of Windows?
> >
> > Les Mikesell
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COM on UNIX
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 02:27:25 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi ,
>
> Has anyone build a COM server on a unix/linux machine ,
Yes...the idea was INVENTED on Unix....
YEARS before migrating to Microshaft-land.
It's called CORBA
Hope that helps.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 02:29:26 -0500
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> JSPL wrote:
> >
> > Better go back and read some more. It's compiling stats from about 566,000
> > different websites (as of Jan. 2000) which use the counter.
> >
> > > 2. One presumes that this site can properly enumerate UNIXen systems.
> >
> > When calling the counter image from the server, the OS is accurately logged.
> > Any file request on a server divulges the OS of the requestor.
> > eg. <IMG SRC="http://c2.thecounter.com/id=23566" will put the requesting OS
> > into the respective log for account #23566.
> >
> > > 3. One is not sure if this site can handle firewalled systems or systems
> > > using network address translation.
> >
> > Firewalls are irrelevant in this method. It's all sent through the GET
> > request header from the client.
> >
> > What sources are at odds? www.linux_forever.com, or how about
> > www.linux_will_takover_the_earth.com? I think I'll stick with a method
> > which draws upon 500,000,000 samplings in a one month period from 500,000
> > different sources and does so by automatically getting the information from
> > the 500,000,000 computers using industry wide and accepted header field
> > standards, with no human polling or involvement to skew the information.
>
> I'm still skeptical. Why then are Linux books such a large segment of
> computer books in the bookstores nowadays?
Because they sell....and so the bookstores order MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
Micro-economics....LEARN IT!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 02:32:16 -0500
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 01:28:58 GMT, Chad Myers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >> No, you claimed that the Democrats were trying to "subvert the rule of
> >> law."
> >
> >Which they were. You didn't even answer the claims, instead stooping to
> >name calling.
>
> How is going to court "subverting" the rule of law?
When you KNOWINGLY enter false arguments...
You know...like David Boies did regarding the Chicago ballots.
Any man with an ounce of decency would surrender his membership
in the Bar...
Of course...since Democrats are self-righteous assholes, they'll
KILL if it advances their goals...
> I've always been
> under the impression that you went to court to get an interpretation of
> the law, not to subvert it. Subverting would involve something
> extra-legal, such as paying off the people counting the ballots or
> voting on behalf of dead people.
>
> Maybe I missed a civics lesson someplace where they defined lawsuits as
> "subversion".
>
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 02:33:13 -0500
mlw wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > So here it is the new year and no new Linux kernel yet. Goes to show
> > that Linux's due dates are no better than anyone elses.
>
> Who cares? When it is released, it will work, unlike MS who delays and
> delays, and eventually releases a buggy project because Marketing says
> it has too.
>
2.4-test is almost through testing, and is at an official code freeze.
Just need to aggressively test 2.4.0-prerelease and fix
any minor bugs (2 weeks tops).
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question with Security on Linux/Unix versus Windows NT/2000
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 02:35:15 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:92pisu$ki8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > : news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > :> > > The answer is to not use Windows NT for these programs OR use NT in
> an
> > :> > > insecure way. Most users will choose to use NT in an insecure way.
> > :> >
> > :> > No, the answer is to use it the way it's intended to be used.
> > :>
> > :> That may be all well an good, but you can't argue, on one side, that
> > :> Linux is hard to use because one sometimes needs to manually manipulate
> > :> settings, and then argue that NT isn't for the same reason.
> >
> > : We're talking about two entirely different useages. Sure, in a
> controlled
> > : by IS situation, Linux would be perfectly fine for the desktop (assuming
> > : that the proper applications existed for the users use).
> >
> > Funny you should mention that.
> >
> > Over the past year, Mozilla and Konqueror became usable, and
> > StarOffice was finally freed.
> >
> > Hence, it's now possible to create a VERY reliable, functional, and
> > cost-effective Linux desktop in a corporate environment for about a
> > fifth of the initial cost of its NT equivalent, and with virtually
> > zero ongoing support/maintenance costs. (There will be a one-time
> > cost for retraining heavy MSOffice users.)
>
> functional is a bit of stretch. I guarantee you that if you take any 100
> office users and give them StarOffice, the majority will find StarOffice to
> lack features they need to do their jobs.
>
> You're also assuming that a typical office worker only has needs for those
> programs. Most companies have Access databases, contact management systems
> (ACT or GoldMine for instance. Nothing similar exists for Linux),
> custom VB programs, etc...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The "lack" of "custom VB programs" is what sane, RATIONAL people
would call a GOOD THING.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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