Linux-Advocacy Digest #495, Volume #29 Fri, 6 Oct 00 18:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (Richard)
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: fanaticism (Richard)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (Roberto
Alsina)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: fanaticism (Roberto Alsina)
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Off Topic Q. for Programmers: HTML renderer in C? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time? ("FUCT")
Re: Linux - - Troll (Dave Ratcliffe)
Re: Off Topic Q. for Programmers: HTML renderer in C? (Roberto Alsina)
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:43:16 GMT
Roberto Alsina wrote:
> El vie, 06 oct 2000, Richard escribi�:
> >You're a tumour because your behaviour is unchecked.
>
> Your analogy is not working very well, I'd say. Do you think cells have some
> sort of super-cell that watches over them?
Yes. They're usually called T-cells.
> >> >Does seeing the advertisement count?
> >>
> >> I don't recall the ad, so I don't know. Maybe you just read too much jingoistic
> >> literature of some kind.
> >
> >I despise the military and am revolted by jingoist literature. Please try again.
>
> Maybe you are just weird.
I'll agree to that!
> >No. Such as being JAPANESE. You have no idea how bizarre their culture is,
> >do you?
>
> Actually, a coworker (sitting next to me) lived there for years, and we often
> share funny conversations about the nature of Japan and its culture.
>
> However, it's not really bizarre. It's just different. I personally know
> several Japanese guys (through my coworker) and they all seem pretty ordinary
> fellows, with a strange tendency to take off their shoes at home, but then
> again, so do I.
Obviously you've never discussed the Japanese obsession with rape, bondage,
pedophilia and bestiality (or should we head straight for the incest rates?),
or the pervasiveness of authoritarianism in the culture. Hmmm, you think
there's a reason your expatriate friend left the homeland?
> > which has destroyed
> >any national government that isn't obsequious to American corporate psycho-
> >paths (euphemistically called "american national interests" by most people
> >in the United States of Satan).
>
> The corporation I work for is only american in some percentage. Is it only
> partly psycopath?
Do you seriously suggest that a government obsequious to foreign psychopaths
is going to discourage local psychopaths?
> >That's correct. Only the biggest shareholders matter at all. As usual,
^^^^^^^
> >you confuse a member of the group with the entirety of the group.
>
> Who said the ex-CEO couldn't become a big shareholder? You are, again, just
> making a blanket statement, and blaming me for taking it as such.
Is that what you call confusing "most" members of a group with "all"
members of a group?
> >And you know that people don't behave this way because you are a psychologist,
> >right?
>
> No. I just know several persons who work in companies, and I also see them
> off-work, and they seem to be the very same all the time.
So did the Greeks. At least, to themselves.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:45:12 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Richard in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>> Said Donal K. Fellows in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>> >No, fanatics *are not required* to have consistent belief systems.
>>
>> Fanatics don't have consistent belief systems.
>
><nods> Sure they don't.
>
>> >And the belief system could be consistent, but have no grounding in
>> >the observable universe (a common occurrence!)
>>
>> Aside from the fact that it is not consistency with anything else but
>> the belief system itself which I was addressing, they aren't consistent
>> that way, either.
>
>Usually called "internal" vs "external" consistency. The first is also
>called "self"-consistency. It's not like this terminology is hard to
>figure out, is there some reason why you eschew it?
I don't; I just didn't think to use it in this context. I don't think
that calling it 'internal' or 'external' consistency is a sufficiently
clear concept to make it the optimal response.
Thanks for your time. Hope it helps.
--
T. Max Devlin
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fanaticism
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:45:04 GMT
Roberto Alsina wrote:
> El vie, 06 oct 2000, Richard escribi�:
> >Honestly, if I bothered to care, I *would* feel massively stupid for
> >ever responding to Roberto.
>
> Such is my fate, bringing to light the inner you.
I think this is one of those problems with egomania you mentioned.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:48:23 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>T. Max Devlin wrote in message ...
>>Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>>>T. Max Devlin wrote in message
>>>
>>>>The fact is there isn't a right, there is an technical capability, and
>>>>you have no constitutional right to deny anonymous participation in
>>>>public forums, THAT'S the point.
>>>
>>>You have the right to deny access to anyone for any reason in a public
>>>forum. [...]
>>
>>Enough said. You're entirely and completely wrong. WHO has the right
>>to deny anyone access in public forums?
>
>Whoever owns or has permission to administer the forum. I could set up a
>news server and deny the whole set of IP addresses your ISP uses. And when
>you get smart and use a proxy I'd just delete your posts (as well as block
>that IP). In the end it's my property your sending your posts to, and my
>full right to refuse or delete them at will for any reason I see fit.
Have fun. I don't care what you do on your private news server. You
don't seem to be aware of the concept of replication as it regards
Usenet. Nobody cares about your 'right' to delete posts on your server;
merely whether they want a down-stream feed from such an 'edited' forum.
You don't seem to want to regard the concept of a *public* forum, but
want to take advantage of a *public* system for replicating messages in
order to make your silly opinions known. Make up your mind. Or just
shut up and go away; a far more effective solution than setting up a
news server just so you can delete my posts. <G>
--
T. Max Devlin
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:51:32 -0300
El vie, 06 oct 2000, Richard escribi�:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> El vie, 06 oct 2000, Richard escribi�:
>> >You're a tumour because your behaviour is unchecked.
>>
>> Your analogy is not working very well, I'd say. Do you think cells have some
>> sort of super-cell that watches over them?
>
>Yes. They're usually called T-cells.
And who watches the T-cells? Or are they tumors?
BTW: I see you deleted the part about me producing a net benefit to the
"corporate organism". That kinda kills the analogy of me as a tumour, doesn't
it?
>> >> >Does seeing the advertisement count?
>> >>
>> >> I don't recall the ad, so I don't know. Maybe you just read too much jingoistic
>> >> literature of some kind.
>> >
>> >I despise the military and am revolted by jingoist literature. Please try again.
>>
>> Maybe you are just weird.
>
>I'll agree to that!
I don't think anyone would disagree.
>> >No. Such as being JAPANESE. You have no idea how bizarre their culture is,
>> >do you?
>>
>> Actually, a coworker (sitting next to me) lived there for years, and we often
>> share funny conversations about the nature of Japan and its culture.
>>
>> However, it's not really bizarre. It's just different. I personally know
>> several Japanese guys (through my coworker) and they all seem pretty ordinary
>> fellows, with a strange tendency to take off their shoes at home, but then
>> again, so do I.
>
>Obviously you've never discussed the Japanese obsession with rape, bondage,
>pedophilia and bestiality (or should we head straight for the incest rates?),
>or the pervasiveness of authoritarianism in the culture.
Authoritarianism, I have plenty nearby without heading for the antipodes.
Pedophilia, it seems to be quite widespread in the US itself. Bestiality even
more so. As for incest, I have no idea. In any case, matters of quantity, not
quality.
> Hmmm, you think there's a reason your expatriate friend left the homeland?
What expatriate friend?
>> > which has destroyed
>> >any national government that isn't obsequious to American corporate psycho-
>> >paths (euphemistically called "american national interests" by most people
>> >in the United States of Satan).
>>
>> The corporation I work for is only american in some percentage. Is it only
>> partly psycopath?
>
>Do you seriously suggest that a government obsequious to foreign psychopaths
>is going to discourage local psychopaths?
I seriously doubt such a statement has any meaning, how could I agree or
disagree?
>> >That's correct. Only the biggest shareholders matter at all. As usual,
> ^^^^^^^
>> >you confuse a member of the group with the entirety of the group.
>>
>> Who said the ex-CEO couldn't become a big shareholder? You are, again, just
>> making a blanket statement, and blaming me for taking it as such.
>
>Is that what you call confusing "most" members of a group with "all"
>members of a group?
There was no "most" in your original post. Feel free to look it up.
>> >And you know that people don't behave this way because you are a psychologist,
>> >right?
>>
>> No. I just know several persons who work in companies, and I also see them
>> off-work, and they seem to be the very same all the time.
>
>So did the Greeks. At least, to themselves.
I fail to get the meaning of what you just wrote.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 17:50:40 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>
>T. Max Devlin wrote in message
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>>>T. Max Devlin wrote in message
>> [...]
>>>Show me a law stating I have no right to administer a public forum
>>>that I have created any way I see fit.[...]
>>
>>Show me how you've created any public forums, and thereby have a right
>>to administer them?
>
>That's not necessary. Suffice it to say that I do in fact administer several
>at this time and I have the freedom to delete at will.
Have fun.
>Although I rarely
>delete but have done so in the past upon request from the offended parties,
>I archive occasionally and remove the archive away from public access as a
>matter of routine. If I had my news server set up I'd create a newgroup just
>for you so I could delete your posts only but allow all others.
>Unfortunately you've caught me in a rare two or three day window in which it
>is not installed.
Oh, yea sure.
>Now show me what law prevents me from removing posts at will.
You do realize that by so editing a newsgroup, you take on the role, and
thus the legal responsibility and liability of a newspaper owner, don't
you? Sure, you have a right to deny anyone the ability to have
something printed in your forum; you also take on the responsibility for
libel and slander of anyone else who you do allow to post.
--
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fanaticism
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:56:31 -0300
El vie, 06 oct 2000, Richard escribi�:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> El vie, 06 oct 2000, Richard escribi�:
>> >Honestly, if I bothered to care, I *would* feel massively stupid for
>> >ever responding to Roberto.
>>
>> Such is my fate, bringing to light the inner you.
>
>I think this is one of those problems with egomania you mentioned.
I didn't mention any of the problems I have with egomania.
However, I indeed have some problems with your egomania, dear major general.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:50:09 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>
>"Nathaniel Jay Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>> >Ignorance is bliss?
>> >
>> >Surround yourself with only what you want to hear and ignore anything
>> >contrary to your own opinions...
>> >
>> >ahhh... golden silence...
>> >
>> >silly.
>> >
>>
>> Apparently you missed the part where it was mentioned that
>> you should killfile the idiots on both sides of the
>> debate. I have as many (maybe more) people from the Linux
>> side as I do from the MS side of the OS debate, and I'm a
>> staunch Linux supporter (no, not a zealot, which would
>> explain why plenty of zealots end up in my killfile. I
>> don't mind saying, "there's a problem with X in Linux",
>> and that's not real popular with the zealot crowd).
>>
>
>I'm no fan of killfiles (made only two exceptions in as 10 times as many
>years) - but I know what you mean about "zealots" (both camps). I don't mind
>saying there is a problem "Y" with "Z" - but just can't sit still when I
>someone makes an untrue claim as fact. But it seems to brand you a zealot
>just because we're in the NT advocacy forum and the topic is NT and the
>malignment is against NT. I hate that! :)
>
>
I'll break my self-enforced silence this once.
Dresden, you are exactly the type of person I was talking
about. You are the biggest RAH RAH Microsoft cheerleader
I have ever heard. You absolutely will never admit to
there being any fault with any MS product ever. You
accuse anyone that says anything positive about any
competing operating system as being full of shit, and you
basically demonstrate nothing but stupidity and an
absolute lack of perspective in any post you put out.
Especially in your tirade in the thread about Nvidia
drivers. I know of a lot of people on both OSes that have
problem with the NVIDIA drivers, why are you the only
person that hasn't heard these complaints. I can't even
use the 'official' NVIDIA driver under Linux because it's
'kernel-space enhancements' lock up X constantly (although
why it doesn't cause a kernel dump I don't know). I won't
lie and say I have any experience with NT or 9x with this
card, but people that have 'actual' experience say they
see some of the same sort of behavior under Windows. So
why are you so fucking ignorant of all the complaints?
It's even been reported in Maximum PC and some of what I'm
sure are your favorite magazines, the Ziff-Davis Microsoft
cheerleaders.
Oh, and your little joke about MS W2K datacenter being a
'heavy-iron' OS that is completely viable (and as far as I
know it isn't even available yet) is just icing on the
cake. Fucking morons like you amaze me. How your brain
manages to keep enough cells alive to keep you breathing
is just amazing.
(I KNOW, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS. WELL, MAYBE I'M FEELING A
LITTLE TROLLISH RIGHT NOW MYSELF!)
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathaniel Jay Lee
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:00:33 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Jonathan Revusky in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
[...]
>It was really other people who started with all this rhetoric about the
>constitution and the bill of rights. My position is simply that if some
>anonymous jerk thinks he can make slanderous statements, I can damn well
>point out who that jerk is if it comes to my attention. In so doing, I
>cause him to lose his anonymity, but so what? You just agreed with me
>above that anonymity is not a right. So you have my right to free speech
>(which is a real right) vs. some anon jerk's right to anonymity (which
>is not a real right.) This is like "Rock breaks scissors..."
You again are confusing ethics with ability. That someone has the
ability to post slander anonymously does not give you the ethical right
to suspend his anonymity, nor does it support your claim that no
slander, but merely baseless insult, was presented. I thought I clearly
pointed out in my original response that if you assume your right to
free speech automatically transcends someone else's right to privacy,
you are making an assumption which neither the law nor consideration of
ethics will support you on.
>OTOH, you *can* claim that exposing an anonymous jerk poster is not very
>*nice* of me. If that is your claim, I could concede your point
>immediately. OTOH, if your claim, in that scenario, is that I did
>something illegal, or violated somebody else's rights, then I will argue
>with you, because you're wrong.
You confuse the issue. There is, obviously, a large gray area between
being an asshole and acting illegally. I wouldn't be proud of being
anywhere in the range, and it doesn't support your position to be
willing to quibble about the difference.
>So what is the core argument "Your actions aren't nice" or "Your actions
>aren't legal." Those are 2 separate propositions. Which is it?
Your actions were on far more tenuous legal grounds than the 'anonymous
troll' was. IOW, Both.
>> >Furthermore, when you point out that much of said participation was
>> >libellous in nature, they simply repeat their claims about the "right to
>> >anonymity".
>>
>> You were supposed to read what we wrote: there weren't any claims about
>> the right anonymity.
>
>I really wish you'd just stop trying to fan the flames, Max. You're just
>screwing around here being argumentative.
I will stop fanning the flames when they go out. Whether its because
the force of my argument snuffs them, or they've consumed all the fuel
available, I have no preference, as I have lots of patience and am quite
sure of my position. And if I'm not, only continued argument can allow
me to recognize that, so I have no reason not to continue.
>Go to deja and look up a thread on clja entitled "Why JTK has a right to
>anonymity" and then come back and tell me that no claims were made about
>a "right to anonymity".
>
>If you won't do that, please just kindly bug off.
I read the message stating your position which that thread supposedly
culminated in. My discussion, however, is limited to the current
discussion, where no claims to a 'right to anonymity' have been made;
only a right to privacy which provides the ability to post anonymously,
and cannot legally be contradicted by some other private citizen,
regardless of whether he likes or agrees with what someone has posted.
Again, I'll point out that your responses, when faced with an obnoxious
lying anonymous troll, are a) respond by posting discussion on Usenet,
or b) not responding. Breaking their anonymity undermines your own
right to free speech much more than it supports your own right to avoid
slander (as if anyone is going to take an anonymous troll seriously when
they call you a racist.) In the end, it all comes down to the fact that
JTK was acting unethically, and you responded, not with ethical actions,
but with unethical actions, and you expect to escape responsibility for
your actions by referring to the fact that his actions were unethical to
begin with. Unfortunately (for your position) ethics don't work that
way.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:01:34 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
>>You are only known as a liar and as a
>> thief if you get away with lying and theft.
>
>Wrong
Sorry. Obviously a type; thanks for posting it out (sort of.) You are
only known as a liar or thief if you *don't* get away with lying or
theft.
--
T. Max Devlin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Off Topic Q. for Programmers: HTML renderer in C?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:48:44 GMT
In article <00100618074405.31305@pc03>,
Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> El vie, 06 oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi�:
> >In article <00100611273403.05775@pc03>,
> > Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Why not use the khtml port to gtk+? I think it's called gtkhtml.
> >
> >Roberto, I think I love you.
>
> And I really, really hope you are a brunette girl around 25 years old.
Sorry. Hair and age are right on, but other than that it's a sausage
party.
By the way, have you worked with gtkhtml? I checked it out on freshmeat
and saw that it was at 0.6.1 , and there were only about 1200 hits on
it. Just wondering if it was worth the effort or no. Nothing in the way
of online documentation came up anywhere I looked.
-ws
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:02:22 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Roberto Alsina in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>El vie, 06 oct 2000, JS/PL escribi�:
>>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>
>>>You are only known as a liar and as a
>>> thief if you get away with lying and theft.
>>
>>
>>Wrong
>
>Actually, aren't those who do NOT get away with theft knows as thieves?
Yes, and I find it encouraging to see how many people picked up on the
error. It was a typo; thanks for the correction.
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T. Max Devlin
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From: "FUCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98
Subject: Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 22:01:27 GMT
"Ken Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8rkv6i$gl6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Whew ! I read thru over 100 posts here. I was looking for
> the answer to
> > the original post.
>
> > So, did they ever find out what makes Windows98 freeze up
> all the time?
>
>
> When you ask a loaded question that presupposes something
> that not everybody believes is true, don't be surprised when
> everyone's answer is not one you like.
>
> --
> Ken Blake
> Please reply to the newsgroup.
This reminds me of a "Gift" I gave to a friend who has frequent Windows
problems. It was a "book" titled "The answer to every computer problem you
will ever have". When you opened it, the only thing inside was a small
mirror.
FUCT
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From: Dave Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.support.cable-modem.kiddies,alt.usenet.kooks,uk.sport.football
Subject: Re: Linux - - Troll
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 22:10:54 GMT
In <8rigi4$hr399$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Dave Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fecking
>> Hill) wrote:
>> >>>>>Flaagg escribi� en art�culo:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm downloading all 640 megs of the Linux Mandrake 7 ISO. I
>> >>>>>> just might install it, too.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Don't ask me why.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I'd reinstall on *this* computer, but that would mean losing
>> >>>>>my pr0n archive hard drive. Two gigs, daily downloads and
>> >>>>>I still haven't found any porn stars with clean fingernails.
>> >
>> >Unix suxks
>>
>> Mose people without the capacity to understand things more difficult than
>> "pull this tab to open" say that.
>
>I dunno, I'm not overly fond of Unix. Still, if everyone used it, who would
>you feel superior too? ;-)
Well, I don't feel superior to much of anyone because I work with Unix. This
assumes, of course, that there are only a few people who have difficulties
exceeding the "Pull here to open" test like our friend, Fecking. Just
remember, if there were no Unix, Usenet would be pretty empty.
And there are some days when >I'M< not overly fond of Unix, either.
--
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off Topic Q. for Programmers: HTML renderer in C?
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:15:29 -0300
El vie, 06 oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi�:
>In article <00100618074405.31305@pc03>,
> Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> El vie, 06 oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi�:
>> >In article <00100611273403.05775@pc03>,
>> > Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Why not use the khtml port to gtk+? I think it's called gtkhtml.
>> >
>> >Roberto, I think I love you.
>>
>> And I really, really hope you are a brunette girl around 25 years old.
>
>Sorry. Hair and age are right on, but other than that it's a sausage
>party.
>
>By the way, have you worked with gtkhtml? I checked it out on freshmeat
>and saw that it was at 0.6.1 , and there were only about 1200 hits on
>it. Just wondering if it was worth the effort or no. Nothing in the way
>of online documentation came up anywhere I looked.
Nope. Only the original KDE version. If they didn't break it too much, it's a
fairly good HTML 3.2 widget. Frames, forms, tables should work OK. If you want
to check its capabilities, try using KFM from KDE 1.1.2 to browse the web a bit.
--
Roberto Alsina
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