Linux-Advocacy Digest #739, Volume #29 Thu, 19 Oct 00 07:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Astroturfing (2:1)
Re: Astroturfing (2:1)
Re: Astroturfing (2:1)
Re: who's WHINING dipshit! (2:1)
Re: Astroturfing (2:1)
Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!! (2:1)
Re: Distro 8.0 wish list... (2:1)
Re: The Linux Experience (Haoyu Meng)
Re: Why Linux is great. (2:1)
Re: Linus position in "Power List" (2:1)
Windows 2000 challenges GNOME/KDE (Haoyu Meng)
Re: Windows 2000 challenges GNOME/KDE (Paul Colquhoun)
Netscape(4.x) for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (Donal K.
Fellows)
Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? ("Weevil")
RE: Why I do use Windows ("Idoia Sainz")
RE: Why Linux is great. ("Idoia Sainz")
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:43:31 +0100
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> 2:1 wrote:
> >
> > > MCSE is a hardware and networking certification. It has nothing to do with
> > > programming. That's the MCSD (Microsoft Certified Solution Developer) and
> > > has been in existance for at least 5 years.
> >
> > Certified solution developer ?! ROFL!!!
>
> Microsoft keeps misspelling "pollution"
The idea that VB basic is good for anything is funny. Now, BBC basic:
that was a basic. It had dynamic heap allocation and
pointers/dereferencing operators. Not to mention an powerful inline
assembler. The modern versions (RISC OS) are by far and away the best
basic ever written.
A damn site better then VB if you ask me.
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:44:38 +0100
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> lyttlec wrote:
> >
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > "lyttlec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "lyttlec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > In the bookstores the new books have "MCSP" Microsoft Certified
> > > > > > Solutions Provider or Microsoft Certified Software Professional,
> > > "MCDBA"
> > > > > > Microsoft Certified Data Base Administrator, "MSNA" Microsoft
> > > Certified
> > > > > > Network Administrator. The older books still show MSCE. But it doesn't
> > > > > > matter much what MS says. Just don't call yourself an Engineer on your
> > > > > > business card if you go into consulting.
> > > > >
> > > > > MCSP is a different certification than MCSE. MCSP is a certificaiton
> > > for
> > > > > management if I recall correctly, while the MSNA is limited only to
> > > > > networking versus Windows support, etc...
> > >
> > > > MCSP is being used on the programming language books that used to show
> > > > MCSE. i.e VB, VC++. Perhaps its just a marketing thing to get people to
> > > > pay more money for 4 letters of the alphabet.
> > >
> > > MCSE is a hardware and networking certification. It has nothing to do with
> > > programming. That's the MCSD (Microsoft Certified Solution Developer) and
> > > has been in existance for at least 5 years.
> > >
> > > An MCP is a Certified Professional, and is sort of a catch-all. Anyone that
> > > has any MS certification (or has completed at least one test) is an MCP, but
> > > you have to complete specific tests for specific certifications.
> > I forgot Microsoft Certified Solution Developer, to go along with
> > Microsoft Certified Solution Provider. What is the exact difference?
> > MCSD, MCSP, MCSP, MCSE, MCDBA, MCSA, any more? What hardware does an
> > MCSE cover? How to use a mouse?
>
> Random keyboard poking....
No, that's a MSCRKP, which costs about 3 times as much. an MSCE covers
only the mouse.
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:52:13 +0100
> I've done that on the second of three installs, it still shows 66mb when the
> install is complete. I also have a pretty good feeling that just typing
> mem=256M will not magically work if it doesn't already see the maximum
> amount available.
You have an awnser to your problem, but your not interested in it. Why
bother to ask?
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: who's WHINING dipshit!
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:55:00 +0100
JS/PL wrote:
> It was enough of a pain in the ass getting it to see
> the modem and work the video card, which Windows manages to do all by it's
> self.
That's utter bullshit and you know it. Windows does not see anything
more than a VGA card by itself. You give it drivers and tell it
explicitly what card you have. So you had to do the same thing under
linux? So fucking what? How does this now make linux worse?
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:56:10 +0100
> This is unfortunate too, because many business desktops are 810
> (like the one I used and most of the ones in my office on the
> non-developer machines).
Anything to back up this claim? No? Thought not.
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!!
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:03:03 +0100
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?articleid=RWT101600000000
> >
> > That's the headlines once they fail to support this chip.
> >
> > Linux will be supporting it just like they currently have IA64 working!
> >
> > Microsoft doesn't even have the IA64 working!
>
> They don't? What world are you living on?
>
> Win2K and whistler both have been demonstrated numerous times.
> A cursory search on Google will return the results. There are
> numerous press statements on Microsoft's press site about the
> events complete with links to news agencies covering the
> events.
>
> > Microsoft is NOT keeping up with technology!
>
> At least they can detect RAM in every PC out there. Linux
> can't seem to do this on even a small number of them.
>
> -Chad
Have you always been a compulsive liar (hint a ow awnser will be funny)
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Distro 8.0 wish list...
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:05:37 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hey kids,
>
> Alright, seeing as how many of the major distributors are in their 7.x
> releases, I just thought I'd put out my 8.0 release wish list.
>
> Linux kernel 2.4
> gcc 3.0
> KDE 2
> GNOME 2
> GTK+ 2.0
> KOffice
> GNOMEOffice
> OpenOffice
> WP 8.0 lite
> Mozilla 1
> Netscape 6
> XFree86 4
> Borland's Kylix
> Sawfish & Enlightenment (would like to compare...)
> Good OpenGL drivers for Voodoo cards (NVidia needs competition)
> At least one good desktop publishing program (Quark preferably)
> More Themes & Iconsets & Propaganda Art
>
I think you should include as many WMs as possible. The more choice the
better. AfterStep is nice.
Also, it *MUST* come eith the latest SVGATextMode (ie supporting all the
latest cards).
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Linux Experience
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:23:56 GMT
Linux is not ready for the desktop. Functionality offered by KDE/GNOME is
relatively imature and unstable, compared to Windows, especially Windows2000.
GNOME and KDE crash way too often, is slow unless used under root account, and
has almost no cross-application integration (ActiveX).
I use many Linux boxes to do data intensive batch jobs. Another friend of mine
use a personal farm of about 10 identical Linux boxes to do data-mining and
spamming.
There is definitely use for Linux, just not on the desktop -- yet.
Haoyu Meng
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux is great.
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:12:50 +0100
mlw wrote:
>
> I hate when the seeming majority of messages are either defending Linux
> against some idiotic press release, or a dialog initiated by a troll.
>
> Lets talk about why Linux is great, and a pleasure to use.
The first thing that is great about it is the install. A single CD has
probably all the applications and drivers that you want. Very quick,
very easy and it gets better from there.
I like the UNIX paradigm of many small tools. Linux excels here (the GNU
tools seem to be very well written).
It provides an extremely broad range of UI's, of which I have found 2
which find more powerful than ony others (High res console and FVWM2).
I have succesfully recommended Linux to several people. My brother uses
Linux exclusively on his computer. He did his entire 3rd year physics
project on Linux computers. All the software he needed (that was already
written) came on the 1 CD.
Linux can also be configured to be very pretty. I have made my computer
look exactly how I want it.
-Ed
>
> A typical Linux distribution, out of the box, has 95% of anything anyone
> (that's ANYONE!) would want to do with a computer.
>
> Depending on your needs, there is a high likelihood that Linux will do
> what you want better, faster, more reliably, and more socially
> responsible than Windows any release.
>
> I have a friend that is self employed as a word processor, she uses
> Linux, as she puts it, her "time is worth money."
> I have relative that uses linux to serve web pages out of his house
> using Linux.
> I know a couple companies using linux as a development environment.
> I know (as a witness) a few major companies that use Linux.
> I personally use Linux.
>
> Windows may have some cool eye candy, but lets face it, when all is said
> and done, you want to accomplish what you want to accomplish, if you are
> willing to pay the price of instability, vendor lock, and
> price/performance penalty for Windows, enjoy. If what you want to
> accomplish can be done with Linux, you will find that it will be more
> reliable and more economically viable than ANY Windows solution.
>
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linus position in "Power List"
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:14:49 +0100
mopi wrote:
>
> Just caught the repeat of "The Power List" on UKs Channel 4 - Linus
> got a position in the top 100 for work on Linux.
>
> Zero mention of RMS or FSF but ibms promotion of Linux got a big plug.
RMS and the FSF are more behind the scnes, despite providing the bulk of
the coed needed for an operating system.
>
> Did anyone get the actual position - I must have blinked for that bit.
>
> fyi The Power List is drawn up anually and lists the 300 people who
> have the most power (influence?) over the lives of people living in
> the UK - prime minister of China came in at number 68, madonna at 96,
> head of Starbucks was well up there - never even see a starbucks!
I think I've seen 1 (it's quite good).
Where did Howling Lord Hope come?
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows 2000 challenges GNOME/KDE
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:34:54 GMT
Windows 2000 is rock solid. I have used it for almost half a year. Only
had to reboot twice, both times due to conflict from newly installed
hardware devices.
Windows 2000 is stable, powerful, and easy to use. So does anyone see it
as seriously challenging the relevance of pushing Linux to the desktop?
Personally, I had been a Linux fan since Kernel version 1 with Slackware
floppies downloaded over 28.8k modem. While in college I used Linux as
my main workstation OS, with Win95/98 relegated to secondary role. But
Win2k changed all of it. Right now, all the workstation frontends I use
at home at work is win2k boxes with the headless Linux servers tucked
away on a network link to do only number crunching and code comping.
Any similar stories?
Haoyu Meng
Telpic Internet Solutions
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 challenges GNOME/KDE
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:16:23 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:34:54 GMT, Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|Windows 2000 is rock solid. I have used it for almost half a year. Only
|had to reboot twice, both times due to conflict from newly installed
|hardware devices.
|
|Windows 2000 is stable, powerful, and easy to use. So does anyone see it
|as seriously challenging the relevance of pushing Linux to the desktop?
|
|Personally, I had been a Linux fan since Kernel version 1 with Slackware
|floppies downloaded over 28.8k modem. While in college I used Linux as
|my main workstation OS, with Win95/98 relegated to secondary role. But
|Win2k changed all of it. Right now, all the workstation frontends I use
|at home at work is win2k boxes with the headless Linux servers tucked
|away on a network link to do only number crunching and code comping.
|
|Any similar stories?
This looks like it was intended for the windows advocacy group.
Please be more carefull where you post, as you may attract many
angry retorts with misplaced messages.
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Netscape(4.x) for Linux
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:23:38 GMT
Hello
Can anybody help me out?
Apparantly, My key-trapping events dont work in Netscape(4.x) for Linux.
But the same thing works fine in Netscape for Windows.
What could be the possible screw up.
Thanks in advance.
Amit R.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: 19 Oct 2000 10:25:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
FM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Functional programming is about viewing a computational process as
> an expression to be evaluated. An expression can be either a
> primitive value or a compound expression. A compound expression is
> a combination of a lambda value (function) and another value and
> evaluated by applying the function to the value. A function is an
> expression (to be evaluated) with the formal parameters in scope. In
> more practical sense, this means a lot of recursion, treating
> functions as values, and no assigment statement (or the concept of
> statement, for that matter). Haskell and ML are some of the major
> languages that support this paradigm.
>
> Imperative programming, on the other hand, is about viewing a
> computational process as a series of commands that manipulate the
> environment. Almost all non-functional programming languages and
> some functional languages support this.
Clarifying a bit further, there are three main computational models:
imperative, functional and logical (well, I'll call it that; I can't
recall the correct term off the top of my head.)
Imperative languages are characterised by their semantics consisting
of an environment and a sequence of operations upon that environment.
C is a classic example.
Functional languages are characterised by their semantics consisting
entirely of the evaluation of expressions. They don't have updatable
state. (Well, most practical functional languages do, but that stuff
is typically ring-fenced quite carefully.) SML and Haskell are
excellent examples, and Lisp is (practically speaking) a pretty poor
example. I've even seen functional programs in C, but the language
has very poor support for it.
Logical languages are characterised by their semantics being defined
in terms of unification. Prolog is really the only well known example
(and if you don't know Prolog, I'd advise learning it as it helps
illustrate some quite different ways of approaching programming
tasks.)
These are not the only paradigms in use in programming though. The
two others that are well known are (the wildly successful) structural
programming and OO (not quite as good, but still very useful when
modelling the real world.) However, the lessons they teach can be
applied fairly to the computational models described above[*] since
they do not state how to ascribe semantics to what they describe.
They are very useful though.
Donal.
[* Particularly the first two; Prolog *really* is very different.
Which is why I advise people to try it. ]
--
"[He] would have needed to sell not only his own soul, but have somehow gotten
in on the ground floor of an Amway-like pryamid scheme delivering the souls
of kindergarten students to Satan by the truckload like so many boxes of Girl
Scout Cookies." -- John S. Novak, III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Weevil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 05:35:17 -0500
Mike Byrns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Weevil wrote:
>
> > T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Said Weevil in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> > > [...]
> > > >This scenario was repeated over and over with the large OEMs of the
time.
> > > >It's all there in publically available court documents. A lot of it
is
> > > >online.
> > >
> > > But finding the details is a less trivial task than you make it seem,
> > > Weevil, I have to admit. Could you provide some urls?
> > >
> > > [...]
> >
> > Here's a pretty good starting point:
> >
> > http://www.drdos.com/fullstory/factstat.html
>
> Note, folks. That this completely Caldera's opinion. None of it was
proven in
> court. Every quote could be faked or taken out of context. All in all I
see
> normal American competition.
So all these exhibits Caldera introduced in court could have been "faked" or
"taken out of context"?
So much for any shred of honesty you might have laid claim to here.
Note, folks, that Caldera backed up every claim with tons of Microsoft's
internal memos and emails. They didn't "fake" them. And if they were taken
out of some context that would paint the opposite picture, then I'm sure
Microsoft provided that context both in court and online.
Right, Mike? Please post the URL that provides the "proper" context for all
these memos, letters, and emails in Caldera's case. Also note that this is
the first time I've decided to ask for proof, after countless times of
profiding proof in response to your endless requests for it.
jwb
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From: "Idoia Sainz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Why I do use Windows
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:35:27 GMT
> I included his post to be sure he could understand how badly wrapped
> his lines were. That's pertinent.
I CR/LF my posts under Outlook to this group to be sure tin, slrn and
the so can read them.
> Balanced?? His post was full of subjective opinion and misinformation,
> Off the top of my head:
> 1) Needing an emulator to play games under Linux - misinformation.
I am weel informed, and know which games are and which are not
available under GNU/Linux, getting my sentences out of context won't
answer my issues.
> 2) IE better than Netscape, Outlook a better newsreader, etc. -
> subjective opinion.
Opinions are subjetive by definitions unless you prove it with maths,
arent't they ? By better I usually try to mean more featured (or at least
more wide-demanded featured) and easier to use to a certain level.
> I've seen and heard all this before and I'm not going to waste my time
> addressing it.
That's your prerrogative, no one pretended neither to offend you nor
to make you waste your valuable time.
> NONE of the points?? I demonstrated that his newsreader, Outlook, is
> not telling him what it is really posting. This is typical of so many
> Windows apps: they do things to your data, often botching it up,
> without even telling you.
Well, even when at some cases it may be annoying, computers were
first designed to help doing calcs, evolving then into tools to help
people, even doing (if they are well designed and programmed) what
people does not have to know how to do or even know has to be
done, that's what I understand computers for ... do you care if your
car integrated-computer do things that you have not explicitly told
to it do to ? No, it is just a pice of hardware to aid your driving.
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From: "Idoia Sainz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Why Linux is great.
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:35:28 GMT
> I hate when the seeming majority of messages are either defending Linux
> against some idiotic press release, or a dialog initiated by a troll.
I hate it if it is done blindly or stupidly, let's see if you can do it
better.
> Lets talk about why Linux is great, and a pleasure to use.
Obviously, you could be named troll or said to talk subjetively, but
like you are talking about Linux ...
> A typical Linux distribution, out of the box, has 95% of anything anyone
> (that's ANYONE!) would want to do with a computer.
Again 0 facts in here.
> Depending on your needs, there is a high likelihood that Linux will do
> what you want better, faster, more reliably, and more socially
> responsible than Windows any release.
May be, like you say, it depends on a lot of things, included
computing skills, time left to learn, installed hardware, ... well
no too much facts till now, like the same thing could be said
about any OS under certain circunstances.
> I have a friend that is self employed as a word processor, she uses
> Linux, as she puts it, her "time is worth money."
Again her opinion is not relevant as an objetive fact, indeed I do
use Word 2000 to write texts, even when I have Staroffice,
abiword and LyX perfectly usable at my computer. I find it more
featured, faster and prettier. Again it is an opinion.
> I have relative that uses linux to serve web pages out of his house
> using Linux.
I do use and recommend always GNU/Linux to do this, in this
case your opinion and mine are the same, a honest competition
between Apache and IIS should be done to prove something.
> I know a couple companies using linux as a development environment.
Well, this depends a lot on what you are developing, for some things
GNU/Linux would be fine for me, obviously not for developing Windows
applications ... that like it or not, has the bigger market share nowadays.
> I know (as a witness) a few major companies that use Linux.
> I personally use Linux.
I do use GNU/Linux for some things at home (even when I think
Windows does a better desktop), and at my job we use only Linux
and Solaris as servers, again, what do you try to prove ?
> Windows may have some cool eye candy, but lets face it, when all is said
> and done, you want to accomplish what you want to accomplish, if you are
> willing to pay the price of instability, vendor lock, and
> price/performance penalty for Windows, enjoy.
Again you personal opinion, let's parse it. Cool and eye candy, well,
I have nothing against that (what are trying GNOME, KDE and all
the window managers around ?); what's more, I feel Windows interface
is the best one around, faster and very featured (all in this world is
improvable). Unstability is a disturbing issue, but when talking about
home or workstation machines NT Workstation, 2000 Professional
are rock solid, and even Windows 98 is fine for that in some cases.
In my opinion Windows NT/2000 Server is not mature as a server
product.
> If what you want to
> accomplish can be done with Linux, you will find that it will be more
> reliable and more economically viable than ANY Windows solution.
I agree that if something can be done with Linux it can be done
more reliable and in some cases with less money.
All of your great Linux defense ends in a blind hate to Microsoft
and Windows, and in the conclussion that Linux makes a good and
economic server for a lot of things, given that you have some one
that knows how to manage it. On the other side, at the desktop it
can be used too (and being done by some people) given you like
computers, you have the time to spend on it and you want to do
some kind of things less productive than you would do in Windows.
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