Linux-Advocacy Digest #748, Volume #29           Thu, 19 Oct 00 18:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Astroturfing ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!! (The Ghost In The Machine)
  Re: who's WHINING dipshit! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Matt O'Toole")
  Re: who's WHINING dipshit! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Windows 2000 challenges GNOME/KDE ("Nigel Feltham")
  Re: Astroturfing (.)
  Oracle for Linux demand 4X windows (Larry R)
  Re: Why Linux is great. (Keith Peterson)
  Re: Windows 2000 challenges GNOME/KDE ("James")
  Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Brian Moore)
  Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: who's WHINING dipshit! (.)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:57:23 -0400

2:1 wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > lyttlec wrote:
> > >
> > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "lyttlec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "lyttlec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > In the bookstores the new books have "MCSP" Microsoft Certified
> > > > > > > Solutions Provider or Microsoft Certified Software Professional,
> > > > "MCDBA"
> > > > > > > Microsoft Certified Data Base Administrator, "MSNA" Microsoft
> > > > Certified
> > > > > > > Network Administrator. The older books still show MSCE. But it doesn't
> > > > > > > matter much what MS says. Just don't call yourself an Engineer on your
> > > > > > > business card if you go into consulting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MCSP is a different certification than MCSE.  MCSP is a certificaiton
> > > > for
> > > > > > management if I recall correctly, while the MSNA is limited only to
> > > > > > networking versus Windows support, etc...
> > > >
> > > > > MCSP is being used on the programming language books that used to show
> > > > > MCSE. i.e VB, VC++. Perhaps its just a marketing thing to get people to
> > > > > pay more money for 4 letters of the alphabet.
> > > >
> > > > MCSE is a hardware and networking certification.  It has nothing to do with
> > > > programming.  That's the MCSD (Microsoft Certified Solution Developer) and
> > > > has been in existance for at least 5 years.
> > > >
> > > > An MCP is a Certified Professional, and is sort of a catch-all.  Anyone that
> > > > has any MS certification (or has completed at least one test) is an MCP, but
> > > > you have to complete specific tests for specific certifications.
> > > I forgot Microsoft Certified Solution Developer, to go along with
> > > Microsoft Certified Solution Provider. What is the exact difference?
> > > MCSD, MCSP, MCSP, MCSE, MCDBA, MCSA, any more? What hardware does an
> > > MCSE cover? How to use a mouse?
> >
> > Random keyboard poking....
> 
> No, that's a MSCRKP, which costs about 3 times as much. an MSCE covers
> only the mouse.

Thanks, that clarifies everything.

Now I understand.


> 
> -Ed
> 
> --
> Konrad Zuse should  recognised. He built the first      | Edward Rosten
> binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the   | Engineer
> first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first   | u98ejr@
> commercial one (Z4).                                    | eng.ox.ac.uk


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!!
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:10:11 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Drestin Black
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on 19 Oct 2000 11:24:22 -0500
<39ef1f96$0$26311$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?articleid=RWT101600000000
>>
>> That's the headlines once they fail to support this chip.
>>
>> Linux will be supporting it just like they currently have IA64 working!
>>
><snip crap>
>
>Lesse... a MS operating system that doesn't support an Intel chip. Gee, how
>likely is that?! HA!

Microsoft no longer officially supports them, of course, but in theory
they could port to the IA64 in a manner similar to their NT ports to the
Alpha (which is 64-bit) and PPC.

Assuming they still have rights thereto.  I don't know who did the ports.

>
>Hmmm... MS doesn't have released OS support for a chip that's not sold yet -
>boy, that hurts! NOT!
>
>Gosh, linux supports a chip that NO ONE running Linux would(/could) afford.
>From the ranks of the "if it's not free we will steal it" linux types - why
>would IA64 support be important? It's not like linux is used by enterprises
>in high powered computing (apart from some showpiece specials).
>
>And, IBM couldn't afford to buy MS - it's that simple. But Bill could buy
>IBM if he stopped donating CASH (not promises) to charities and non-profit
>foundations.

IBM Market Cap: $168B
MSFT Market Cap: $277.1B

I suppose it's possible, especially since IBM stock has tumbled from
a high of $134.938 on September 1 to its current value as of the end
of the trading session today of $96 7/16 -- a drop of 28.5% over
almost two months.

The question might be: would MSFT want to?  (And why?)

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: who's WHINING dipshit!
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:00:55 -0400

2:1 wrote:
> 
> JS/PL wrote:
> > It was enough of a pain in the ass getting it to see
> > the modem and work the video card, which Windows manages to do all by it's
> > self.
> 
> That's utter bullshit and you know it. Windows does not see anything
> more than a VGA card by itself. You give it drivers and tell it
> explicitly what card you have. So you had to do the same thing under
> linux? So fucking what? How does this now make linux worse?
> 

Actually, all of the Linux's that I've installed (RedHat, Mandrake, and
SuSE) Found the hardware and drivers themselves, and put the drivers
in place in the FIRST install step.

Meanwhile, in MS-LoseDows land...it's Install a driver...reboot, install
another driver...reboot....install another driver...reboot.....

Fuck that noise.


> -Ed
> 
> --
> Konrad Zuse should  recognised. He built the first      | Edward Rosten
> binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the   | Engineer
> first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first   | u98ejr@
> commercial one (Z4).                                    | eng.ox.ac.uk


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:00:36 -0700


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:25:05 GMT, Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the
business
> >of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn
programming to
> >do that.
>
> You have an exceedingly unprofessional attitude regarding your tools.

I agree.  Wait until you have to manually chop an extra blank line out of
each page of 1000 pages, or manually renumber 1000 pages worth of headings,
etc.  This is the kind of crap that drives people nuts with Word.  It's a
turbocharged time waster.  If you really need to format your documents,
you're far better off learning to use "real" tools like LaTeX, or even
Framemaker, which, BTW, is the industry standard for professional writers
(most of whom are employed as technical writers).  If you don't want to
bother with that, then for heaven's sake stick with *.txt files, so the
person in charge of formatting can manage the content without wasting hours
or days udoing Word turds.

For shorter documents like magazine or journal articles, it doesn't take as
long to undo the garbage.  So most editors and designers don't care as much,
if the writer is comfortable using Word (for the spell checker, dictionary,
etc.)

Matt O.




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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: who's WHINING dipshit!
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:05:20 -0400

MH wrote:
> 
> More Linux BS. Windows has a very large driver database. WinMe found my
> Matrox video card, yamaha opl3 sound card, both cd roms..in other words
> EVERYTHING.
> 
> I had to tell Linux what was what. I did find installing a creative

Comparing circa-2000 windows with circa 1995 Linux is unscrupulous, dipshit.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 challenges GNOME/KDE
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:14:39 +0100


>Read my message carefully: both reboots on win2k were made so I could tweak
with
>configurations of newly installed hardware devices. They were not lock-ups,
simply
>change of configuration and reboot to verify the configuration.


You mean that win2k still needs to reboot to change hardware configuration -
Linux can easily change addresses of most (maybe all) PCI devices and some
ISA pnp devices without any reboots - You also need no reboots to change
things like IP address, Desktop resolution (restarting X doesn't count as a
reboot), etc.






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: 19 Oct 2000 21:22:21 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:56:42 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:


>>      More than anything else, this is a great reason to tell the
>>      unwashed masses why they should AVOID brand name PC's like
>>      the plague and have some awareness of what's going in their
>>      box.

> But yet every time one of these "brand name" PC's start supporting
> Linux, you rant and rave about mainstream support.

We all remember what a whiney, stupid moron you are, claire.  Its too
soon to come back.

> Sounds like a double standard to me. You can't have it both ways.

1. its not a double standard
2. you CAN have it both ways, despite your sophomoric use of cliche.




=====.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry R)
Subject: Oracle for Linux demand 4X windows
Date: 19 Oct 2000 21:01:33 GMT

Here is an interesting excerpt from an article in Server/Workstation Expert 
that appeared this month:

Oracle says people are asking for Linux products in great numbers. The 
downloads for Linux versions of the Oracle 8i database are running four
times the level of the Windows version, and in the month of July, 285,000 
copies of the Linux version of the company�s database were downloaded. �We are 
just seeing a huge interest by the developer community," Shimp says. "And we 
think that's going to translate into lots of sales for Linux in the market."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Peterson)
Subject: Re: Why Linux is great.
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:26:58 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>> > A typical Linux distribution, out of the box, has 95% of anything anyone
>> > (that's ANYONE!) would want to do with a computer.

Yep! For instance, I use my PC for development (primarily C++, Java, and some 
other sundry languages). I also use it to play a number of games, including 
Age of Empires II, and to do multi-stream audio editing of up to 24 tracks at 
a time (thanks to Syntrillium and Steinberg software - bought and paid for). 
Also, I need to work in complex Word documents thanks to my employer.

Out of the box, linux development tools rock. Everything else I have to do in 
Windows.

So I guess that I'm not in the group you refer to as ANYONE!

>And how is this more objective than her use of Linux? And why would
>you leave your data at the mercy of Microsoft?
>

It's not. That's what backups are for. Saving in WordPerfect for Linux format 
leaves it at the mercy of Corel (shudder), and is Staroffice even supported 
any more?

>But your opinion sucks!

Thanfully, yours is so much more well thought out.

>Multiple desktops out of the box?

One of the things I absolutely love in linux - particularly when developing. 
Shell sessions monitoring databases and servers in the lower right, mp3 player 
(naturally) in the upper right, IDE and tools upper left, browser lower left. 
I sorely miss that in Windows.

>Our hatred of Microsoft is not blind; we hate MS with full cognizance
>of its attempts at vendorlock, proprietary formats, and intimidation.

And zero cognizance of their role in computing history, the good they've done, 
the concepts they've advanced - if not created - and the drive they have 
provided the industry.

Not to mention the many thousands of people directly employed as a result of 
their software, in roles across the board.

No, they aren't angels - but haven't you noticed that every major company in 
the industry is starting to resemble them from an ethics standpoint? 
Microsoft, Sun, Oracle, Intel - none are worse the others, although if I had 
to pick the prince of evil here, it would be Larry Ellison - not Bill Gates. 
Do you hate them all equally?

>Such as look at dancing paperclips?

You don't like it? Turn it off.

Some people like it.

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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 challenges GNOME/KDE
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:25:44 +0200

You are splitting hairs.  Win2k is stable for the desktop.  Period.
Gnome/KDE needs a wake up call.  Period 2.


"Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8snoih$l21v2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >Read my message carefully: both reboots on win2k were made so I could
tweak
> with
> >configurations of newly installed hardware devices. They were not
lock-ups,
> simply
> >change of configuration and reboot to verify the configuration.
>
>
> You mean that win2k still needs to reboot to change hardware
configuration -
> Linux can easily change addresses of most (maybe all) PCI devices and some
> ISA pnp devices without any reboots - You also need no reboots to change
> things like IP address, Desktop resolution (restarting X doesn't count as
a
> reboot), etc.
>
>
>
>
>



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:16:48 -0400

Simon Cooke wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Simon Cooke wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Wrong... .*I* called you dishonest.
> > > >
> > > > Either that, or deliberatly uninformed (which is the same thing).
> > >
> > > Read the thread for context - Max did as well (partly by agreeing with
> you).
> > >
> > > You still haven't commented on that claim you made about an SGI box that
> > > could handle 800Gb transfers.
> >
> >
> > I posted the fucking URLs to SGI's stats.
> 
> Yes, and I posted a rebuttal of YOUR analysis of those stats. Here it is
> again:
> 
> http://x55.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/threadmsg_ct.xp?AN=655656089.1
> 
> "The Origin 3800 system utilizes up to 512 CPUs, with 6.4GB/s maximum
> "aggregated" bandwidth per CPU, according to the whitepapers and datasheets
> available on the same site. The "716GB/s system bandwidth" accounts for the
> entire cluster of CPUs, which are acting as a localized cluster system
> utilizing their metamemory crossbar, R-Brick and C-Brick technologies as
> coordination.

So to do administrative tasks relating to different boards, you have
to login to different hostnames?

If not, then it's still a monolithic machine, NOT a cluster.

> 
> Basically, it's a cluster in a box. It's the same as building your own 19"
> rack mount cluster using NT boxes. And the 716Gb/s -- NOTE- Giga*BIT*, not
> byte -- figure is purely a marketing one.

OK...let's see a Microsoft-driven configuration with these capabilities.

Hint: we won't...not without a miracle occuring.


> 
> So that's 80GB/s on the Origin 3800..; with 16 x 32processor clusters.
> Which, funnily enough, if you divide 80 by 16... you get about 5GB; which is
> close to the 6.4Gb aggregate speed. That's 3.2GB to the memory store from
> the coordinating controller, and 1.6Gb to each of two processors.
> 
> So... in terms of getting data to the processor, that's about 1.6Gb per
> processor. Nice.
> 
> But nowhere near that ludicrous benchmarketing-conjured figure you quoted.
> 
> Simon"
> 
> > As I said...you *DECIDE* to stay ignorant of the truth.
> >
> > That is...DELIBERATELY UNINFORMED.
> >
> > Which is the same as lying, in my book.
> 
> Well, heck, if you can't work that just adding up the total transfer rates
> in the system doesn't give you the maximum possible transfer rate, then I
> guess you're 'LYING' in your book.
> 
> Simon


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 19 Oct 2000 17:31:49 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8sllql$jo2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hartmann Schaffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8sk66f$qfb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Sean Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>jazz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> ...
>>: Unfortunately the world uses Word, and since I coauthor papers, I have to
>>: use it or something compatible.
>>
>>: Thanks
>>: Jim
>>
>>
>>Which journal doesn't accept Latex files then?
>
>apparently his coauthors use word
>
>hs



There are plenty of journals that don't accept LaTeX.  I have done
two articles for the Journal of Chemical Education and they both
had to be done in Word.  (they may have changed their policy by 
now).   Just recently the Am. Chem. Soc. journals started accepting
LaTeX--I think this is a change (for most journals) just in the 
last few years.

On the other hands, there are other journals--like most of the 
Am. Physical Society ones, that essentially take only LaTeX.
(I'm not sure if they'd *not* take Word, but all their mechanism
for electronic submission is built around revtex)

-- 

Brian G. Moore, School of Science, Penn State Erie--The Behrend College
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , (814)-898-6334

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:17:39 -0400

Lars Tr�ger wrote:
> 
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tell us about the last time YOU felt the concussion of a grenade's shock
> > > wave.
> 
> That explains a lot.

We wear helmets, retard.


> 
> Lars T.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:18:49 -0400

Lars Tr�ger wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Lars Tr�ger wrote:
> > >
> > > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > "." wrote:
> > > > > Contraband laws are either idiotic, or for the purpose of amassing
> > > > > power.
> > > >
> > > > > They are pointless, as merely POSSESSING any thing causes no
> > > > > harm to anybody....but usually, the list of things which are
> > > > > banned are those which, if removed, allow certain parties
> > > > > (politicians) to amass power, or (drug companies) to amass wealth
> > > > > at the expense of others.
> > >
> > > What's bad about amassing wealth at the expense of others?
> >
> > Amassing wealth AT THE EXPENSE of others is contrary to free-market
> > principles.
> >
> > In a free market, you amass wealth by AIDING others (mutually beneficial
> > exchange)...
> 
> Aiding others? More communist bullshit.

Are you saying that when you pay the grocery store money, you get ZERO
benefit from the food you get in exchange?


Please tell us when you get out of kindergarten, ok?




> 
> > > Are you a communist?
> >
> > If you look at every communist country on the face of the earth, the
> > bottom-line practice is amassing wealth for the party elites at the
> > expense of the populace
> 
> Whatever you say, Comrade Kulkis. Your cover is blown.
> 
> Lars T.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: who's WHINING dipshit!
Date: 19 Oct 2000 21:31:11 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:00:59 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:


>>      I never had any problems with my Voodoo3, or Voodoo2, or Intel 740,
>>      or S3Virge, or Matrox G400.


> Is the Matrox G400 FINALLY fully supported under Linux, or is it still
> single head only support?

Its not "linux" that supports video cards, brainiac.  Its the X-server.
You're probably referring to XFree86, and yes it does.

Though AccelleratedX has for a bit longer.

Funny, you seem to have claimed repeatedly that you have lots of experience
running linux.  Even someone with very limited experience would have 
known that linux doesnt support ANY sort of video hardware directly, and
that all of that happens inside the X-server.

I suspect that youve been lying quite alot, claire.




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