Linux-Advocacy Digest #748, Volume #33           Sat, 21 Apr 01 07:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Ace Agincourt)
  Re: Red Hat has become scary? (Matthew Gardiner)
  Re: Red Hat has become scary? (Matthew Gardiner)
  Re: Why do Win advocates suck?  Part 1 ("Todd")
  Re: Microsoft gets hard ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Ctrl-Alt-Windows ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Ctrl-Alt-Windows ("Todd")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:10 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Matthew Gardiner)
  Re: Exploit devastates WinNT/2K security ("Todd")
  Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Toon Moene)

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From: Ace Agincourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:12:14 +0100

Hi Don,

On 21 Apr 2001 01:26:52 GMT, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:

? On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:11:05 +0100, Ace Agincourt wrote:
? > Hi Roberto,
?  
? > Serbia was at war with the Kosovas.  Are you claiming that the mass
? > murders did not occur.  
? 
? They are mass *murders* only if they are war *crimes*, ie they are
? unlawful even in the context of war. Are you claiming the mass murders
? were not war crimes ?


Should, then, Lord Walworth have been tried for war crimes after he
murdered Wat Tyler?  Who would have intervened in England's private
affairs?


? 
? > Also, Hitler went to war against the Jews.
? > Are you a holocaust denier?
? 
? The NAZIs were tried as war *criminals*, meaning their killings were found
? to be unlwaful.


Under whose authority?  Should Bill Clinton be forced to stand trial
for his war crimes: the bombing of a Sudanese Pharmaceutical plant and
the associated maimings, and the bombing of an Afghan youth training
centre and its associated murders?



Best wishes, Ace.

====================

This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
>From this day to the ending of the world.

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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:11:58 +1200

> 1961 Cuban Missile Crisis.
> 
> Until the Communists are swept out of Cuba, then Cuba will be a
> threat to the national security of the US.

What is cuba going to do? flood the US with boat people...Geeze, that is
really going to scare the shit out of the US navy, I would imagine the
captain, "look out, that cuban has a piece of wood with a nail in it!"

> Sometime, you have no choice between being friends with military
> Junta A and Dictatorship B when you absolutely *MUST* get bases
> for electronic surveillance and forward military staging areas.
> 
> Most of which are necessary for protecting either
> 
> a) shipping lanes.  If we lose a shipping lane, and American
>         businessmen will start calling for some Admiral's head
>         on a platter.
> 
> b) foreign markets (both as purchasers of our goods, and sources
>         of raw materials, or food, or whatever).  If we loose
>         access to a crucial market, American businessmen will
>         start calling for some General's head on a platter.

Remember the communists witch hunts? based on nothing but paranoia.
Well, atleast the US didn't inforce the "white only" rule that was
inforced in Australia after the bombing of Darwin.

Matthew Gardiner

-- 
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)

If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself

Running SuSE Linux 7.1

The best of German engineering, now in software form

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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:19:57 +1200

> You have to understand America's heritage to understand this.
> 
> America is a place that people came to for the purpose of escaping
> horrible other places...and so, many American's have come to think
> that it is our duty to replace the horrible governments with one
> like ours.
> 
> Not saying that this is right...just explaining it.

Most westerns don't know anything about the Asia culture and expect
everyone to think like them. Had the tree hugging, "free Tibet" hippies
read up about Asian culture, mainly Chinese, then they would know what
is really happening.  As for their so-called political prisoners, You
oppose the Communist Party ---> You oppose the Government ---> which
makes you an enemy of the state and the people.  Simple as that. The
majority, 99% of the Chinese population just want to get on with life,
run a business, and grow some rice, whilst the very small minority want
to stir shit, which, understandably gets the government pissed off.  So
many times I wished NZ sent some of the shit stirrers to a nice labour
camp to get some re-education, such as the Communists, Sue Bradford and
her chief lieutenant Jim Anderton.

Matthew Gardiner

-- 
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)

If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself

Running SuSE Linux 7.1

The best of German engineering, now in software form

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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck?  Part 1
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:24:53 +0800
Reply-To: "Todd" <todd<remove>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"Martigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:bIYD6.60652$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> O.k. now that I have your attention,.
>
>         I have posted a few times here and there, but what amuses me is
this;
> Windows trolls complain about how useless, unfriendly, incomprehensable
> linux is,

I would never say linux is 'useless'.

It *is* hard to learn, and not organized very well.

> but most linux users have used windows for an extensive amount of
> time.  So after all the bashing of whom has the "lazzy" os I say it is
> Windows.  Can you do "True" OS maintanence in the CLI?

Yes.  But why would you want to use the CLI anyway?  Funny.  A CLI is simply
a text based GUI.  The Windows 2000 server resource kit give one almost
every tool necessary for CLI work anyway... never used it though.

Just use terminal services for remote admin.  Works great.

>  Can you get any
> good documentation with windoze?

Sure.  It is fully indexed and very easy to use.

>  At least I can type "info rm" and get a
> FULL DETAILED discription of usage and envocations for the command!  Have
> you tryed "help fdisk" in windoze?

The correct CLI syntax is to put a /? at the end of the command.  If you
want a lot more detailed help, there is always 'help' on the start menu.  I
know that may seem unintuitive to the linux community :)

>         Argue as you will but Linux has taken my blood and I shall give my
energy
> to the revalotuion.

You may want to get a spell checker someday also :)

>  Because people deserve the best!  And with Millions of
> beta testers how can you complain.
>
>         P.s.  Ya Windoze might have better games, but why buy a $1.5K
piece of
> silicon to play games when you can buy a PSX2 for $300?

Well, for me, I hate console games so far... they are just not nearly as
involved as PC games.
>
>         P.s.s. If windows is so "great" why can it be brought down with a
> "dumb-ass.txt.vbs"??????

Hmmm... are you talking Windows 2000?  I could easily write a C program that
would trash a Linux installation too unless you are not logged in as root
(administrator in 2000).

-Todd



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.arch,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:21:20 +0200


"Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3ae0bf63$0$4544$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...


> My experiences competely disagree with yours. I run Ghost and install from
> an image onto a new hardrive. W2K boots up, detects all the hardware and
> uses DHCP to get on the net. I change the machine name and on it goes.
Then
> it runs and runs and runs...  99.99% uptime is effortless and considered
our
> norm. Much more commonly the ONLY reboots occur for hardware related
issues
> or hotfixes that require a (planned) reboot. We've never had a W2K crash.

*Are* there hotfixes that don't require reboot?



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Ctrl-Alt-Windows
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:24:06 +0200


"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm damn sick of seeing those stupid "Windows" keys on
> every frikkin' keyboard I own, including on my
> laptop.
>
> Where can I get tiny penguin stickers to place
> over that eye-sore?

http://www.affordablecomputers.com/flypage.php3?part=2454




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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Ctrl-Alt-Windows
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:27:04 +0800
Reply-To: "Todd" <todd<remove>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm damn sick of seeing those stupid "Windows" keys on
> every frikkin' keyboard I own, including on my
> laptop.
>
> Where can I get tiny penguin stickers to place
> over that eye-sore?
>
> Chris

Speaking of keyboards, I still have one of the *original* IBM PC-AT
keyboards with that famous magnetic 'click' keysound.

Those keyboards were made out of *metal* and they rocked.

Wish you could still buy them new...

-Todd

> --
> "Where do you want to hang today?"



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:29:27 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> 
>    Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>    >>
>    >> >>>>> Rob Robertson writes:
>    >>
>    Rob> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>    >> >>
>    >> >> >>>>> Rob Robertson writes:
>    >> >>
>    Rob> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>    >> >> >>
>    >> >> >> >>>>> Rob Robertson writes:
>    >> >> >>
>    Rob> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>    >> >> >> >>
>    >> >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>    >> >> >>
>    snip>
>    >> >> >>
>    >> >> >> >> what a maroon.
>    >> >> >>
>    Rob> Stop playing "More Libertarian than thou". It's unseemly.
>    >> >> >>
>    >> >> >> Kulkis is not vaguely libertarian.  He repeatedly calls for the
>    >> >> >> murder of people that disagree with him.
>    >> >>
>    Rob> When reason fails, weapons prevail. I think his trip-wire temper
>    Rob> works against him, but for the most part I understand the attitude.
>    >> >>
>    >> >> I do not understand advocating killing people for their beliefs.
>    >> >> I only understand killing in self defense.  And I only consider
>    >> >> physical force in defending oneself or another innocent from real
>    >> >> harm.  Ideas should be fought with other ideas.  He also recently
>    >> >> advocated a modern version of debtor prison.  He is not fond of
>    >> >> liberty.
>    >>
>    Rob> Self-defense in the face of rising totalitarianism is not a cut-and-dried
>    Rob> matter of facing down some jackbooted thug from a militia bunker; there is
>    Rob> the question of the initiation of violence and whether taxes taken at the
>    Rob> (implied) point of a gun constitutes the first strike against freedom. If
>    Rob> someone is merely parking their barrel-filled Ryder truck right next to
>    Rob> your car in a parking lot, how long do you wait before taking defensive
>    Rob> action, even to the point of 'violating' their right of personal property
>    Rob> by opening up the back of the truck to disarm the bomb?
>    >>
>    Rob> I think the same holds true regarding the subversion of the Constitution
>    Rob> and individual liberties in America, and the question of when to act and
>    Rob> what actions to take in response to that very real threat deserves some
>    Rob> thoughtful consideration, though I have always held to the notion that
>    Rob> every rational response must be exhausted before taking the next step.
>    >>
>    >> Yes, and advocating shooting people because they are democrats
>    >> does not qualify.  Ever.
> 
>    Aaron> Wrong.  I advocate taking a VOTE on whether democrats should be shot,
>    Aaron> according to Democrat ideals (will of the majority = final decision).
> 
> In the past you have advocated shooting people just for being
> democrats.

Wrong,  I advocate shooting those who are actively sleek to enslave me,
you, and the rest of the American populace.




> 
> Do you deny this?
> 
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:30:13 -0400

Rob Robertson wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > Rob Robertson wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > >  It boils down to this;
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >   >    Aaron> You know...name some Communist-style government policies that
> > >   >    Aaron> you disagree with.
> > >   >    >>
> > >   >    >> Can't think of any in the real world.
> > >   >
> > >   >    Aaron> then you're a Communist.
> > >   >
> > >   > Because I do not agree with any of their policies?
> > >
> > >   You just said that you can't think of any that you do disagree with.
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >  His original statement read "name some Communist-style government
> > > policies that you AGREE with" [emph. mine] and it does appear that
> > > he changed it to "disagree" after he realized that you weren't
> > > saying what he'd thought you said.
> > >
> > >  What's the deal with the forgery, Kulkis?
> >
> > Hall changed disagree to agree
> 
>  I don't believe you.

I originally wrote "disagree"


> 
> _
> RR


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:10 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:33:13 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Gunner �" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:55:07 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >"Gunner �" wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:08:44 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > Hehehehhehe
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> I'm not registered to vote in this precinct, but since I'm a registered
> > > > > >> >> Democrat does that matter?  <G>
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Since Democrats don't care about such niceties, you are allowed
> > > > > >> >to vote AYE in the election, regardless of where you live.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> In fact Sue... you can even vote  more than once. Feel free to fill out
> > > > > >> the form in your hometown, and again while visiting Fresno.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In the spirit of the Democrat Party, I'll make that 5 AYEs for Sue
> > > > > >4 in her home town, and one in Fresno.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >AYE:    9
> > > > > >NAY:    0
> > > > > >ABSTAIN: 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >When, oh when, will Professor Erb come to rescue his beloved Sliverdick?
> > > > > >
> > > > > oooh oooh! We now have enough for a fireing party! YAY. Now who brings
> > > > > the steaks?
> > > >
> > > > Not quite.  Sue, being the good Democrat that she is, observered
> > > > her party's traditional voting methods, and casted 5 ballots.
> > >
> > > Considering how I voted in the last election I don't think the Democrats
> > > would think I'm so "good".
> >
> > It's amazing how women lose their taste for the Democrat party once
> > the taxes are coming directly out of THEIR OWN spending money....
> 
> Unfortunately, my last dependent aged out on me and, for the first time,
> I had to sent checks in with my returns. :-(  However, that isn't what
> caused my "reformation".  Many years exposure to a libertarian made me
> actually think about the whole business.  Believe me, I fought the whole
> thing but head has pretty much won out over heart (although there are
> still skirmishes going on).  I'm sure my parents and other ancestors
> were spinning in their graves as I voted for Bush.

I've been surprised by Bush...much more philosophically libertarian
than he originally let on...

If he was a traditional New England Blue Blood Republican, the type that
believes in more government more more, the DNC would be falling all over
themselves in praise.  

But he's not...so they're pissed :-)


> 
> Sue


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:35:44 +1200

Zed Mister wrote:
> 
> The companies that are involved with 'selling' Linux are not doing well at
> all.  In fact, they are doing very, very poorly.
> 
> Check out the financial results for RedHat (RHAT) since the company's
> inception:
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/results/hilite.asp?Symbol=rhat
> 
> Their revenues are pathetic, to say the least, and the income is well ...
> progressively negative.  Redhat has always been in the red.

What part of monopoly don't you understand? maybe you should go back to
6th and 7th form and repeat Economics. Me? I got an A in Economics in
7th form, which allowed me, along with my history and Maths w/ Stats,
get into University.

> Now look at Caldera (CALD):
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/results/hilite.asp?Symbol=cald
> 
> Their revenues are actually dropping, and they have always been in the red
> when it comes to net income.

Massive aquisitions, such as the purchasing of the server area of SCO
(Santa Cruz Operations), and considering that the purchased has only
finished in the last couple of months, they still need to rebrand and
remarket Caldera to include the newly incorporated SCO technologies. 
That doesn't include the many consumers who are holding off purchasing
Caldera software until the new kernel is incorporated into their
products.

> 
> Compare that to Microsoft (MSFT):
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/results/hilite.asp?Symbol=msft
> 
> Relatively speaking, Microsoft is holding strong.  They just reported a net
> income of $2.45 Billion on revenues of $6.46 Billion for the latest quarter.
> This was fuelled by extremely strong sales of Windows 2000.
> 
> Apple's sales and profits are not looking too good, on the other hand.  They
> are suffering due to the recent economic slowdowns, whereas Microsoft hasn't
> even noticed any slowdown at all.

Not alot of money compared to IBM, and compared to SUN, Microsoft is
grandually being overtaken. Now with the launch of X-Box they are trying
to hold on to some sort of revenue stream.  Shortly centralised
processing via the web will be herald a new era of computing, one where
your OS will not be an issue, and with that, people will expect the OS
to be free, just as consumers now expect a browser to be free.

> 
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/results/hilite.asp?Symbol=aapl
> 
> If I were Apple, I'd go ahead full force with development of MacOSX on all
> consumer and server platforms.  I would push Java application programs so
> that any applications that developers write can run with a single
> compilation on PPC, x86, Alpha, IA64, x86-64, and other popular or
> soon-to-be-popular architectures.  Apple has the ability to change the
> computing world as we know it, but they are too afraid to give up their
> grasp on their own hardware.  If anything, by opening up MacOSX a bit, they
> would be able to sell their own hardware as being the best supported for the
> operating system.  People will rush to their hardware if it is indeed the
> best, and they can charge a bit more for the higher level of support and
> quality.
> 
> By supporting all CPU's and embracing Java (or another hardware-independent
> programming language), Apple will also allow for much faster development in
> CPU design.  CPU manufacturers will no longer be worried about sticking to
> an aging architecture, whatever it may be.  They can change the architecture
> in any way they see fit, and as long as the OS adds support for it the
> programs continue to run (which is what Java is all about).  This is where
> Apple should be heading.

Apple should run with the Ultra Sparc processor.  It will enable them to
hook up with SUN thus create the economies of scale to produce even
cheaper CPUS and other computer components.  The best part is that the
500 Mhz of the UltraSparc IIe does not require a fan, just a heat sink,
thus they can remain "fanless".


Matthew Gardiner

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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Exploit devastates WinNT/2K security
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:44:52 +0800
Reply-To: "Todd" <todd<remove>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Roy Culley wrote:
> >
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18370.html
> >
> > Here's a snippet:
> >
> > "However, if for some reason it's necessary for you to use the many
thrilling
> >  features of Windows networking without NTLMv2, then there is absolutely
> >  nothing you can do but pray."
>
> Microsoft love re-inventing the wheel over and over again.  There was a
> perfectly adequate file sharing protocol, called NFS which all UNIX's
> had, from IRIX to Solaris, you were guaranteed that they could
> inter-operate, but no, Microsoft had to be different, and now they are
> facing the consequences for their arrogance. Do I have any sorrow for
> those who went down the NT track? hell no.  I personally could not give
> a shit and hope that they get their machines hacked to pieces by a 10
> year old script kiddie, whilst the real work, yet again, is done by
> servers running UNIX, using standard compliant file sharing protocols
> developed over decades of work.

So use NTLMv2 and you won't have any problems as the article states (if you
actually read it).

NTLMv2 (128-bit encryption pack) is a free download for all versions of
Windows 2000... why not just get it and stop complaining??

-Todd

> Matthew Gardiner
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form



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From: Toon Moene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:42:49 +0200

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:40:02 GMT, Webmaster wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:10:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost
> > In The Machine) wrote:

> >>allows it to use a proper file system, like reiserfs, xfs, or

> > Isn't xfs the X Font Server?

> Yes, it's also that. Too many acronyms, huh ?

I think that it is a symptom of the fact that there are only 17576
TLA's.

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