Linux-Advocacy Digest #209, Volume #30           Mon, 13 Nov 00 10:13:05 EST

Contents:
  Re: The Sixth Sense ("Chad Myers")
  Re: The Sixth Sense ("Chad Myers")
  Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("JS/PL")
  Re: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:56:20 GMT


"Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 06:53:18 +0200, Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >
>
> >Make moziila support activex, and other such standards, and I don't see a
> >reason why you can't.
>
> ActiveX is not a standard
>
> >> > And when the agreement with Citirix runs out, there will be RDP clients
> >for
> >> > all OS.
> >
> >IE now run on three OS that I know of. Win*, Mac, Solaris.
>
> No, it doesn't "run" on Solaris, it crawls.

Like everything on Slowaris, I suppose.

-Chad



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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:00:52 GMT


"Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8uod9t$me4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : "Goldhammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> : news:JgFP5.84353$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:26:24 GMT,
> :> Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :>
> :> >I take it that is the Microsoft's pretense of portability.   Just
> :> >as warped as usual.
> :>
> :> People who indoctrinate themselves into Microsoft's way
> :> of thinking do indeed develop some very odd notions. You will
> :> note these yourself as you observe the logic displayed by
> :> some MS users.
> :>
> :> Some common trends:
>
> : Spare us your spin.
>
> :> 1. A database is a file.
>
> : No one ever said this, at least not in this group. It was
> : the intention of several penguinistas to imply that I meant
> : this in a recent thread, I was merely illustrating that
> : a database must be persisted to the disk somehow. How is this
> : done? Through a file. Perhaps multiple files, each one impacting
> : performance.
>
> You have implied many, many times that a database is
> something you should stick a file rather than raw onto a
> partition.

I never said this. I was implying that this is how it's
typically done. Most people don't need to use a raw partition because
their FS is up to the performance job, however, with ext2, it's
almost a necessity because it's so slow.

> : Ideally, one would only have to have one file (or the data on
> : one drive and the index or log on another) rather than many log
> : files (or one for every 2GB in Linux's case).
>
> You just mentioned partitions here, yet keep mentioning the 2GB
> limit.  You do realize that the 2GB limit doesn't apply to
> partitions, don't you?

Of course, but most people don't use the partition method, they
use files. Of course, in Linux, if you want anything close to resembling
performance, you HAVE to use the partition.

> [snip]
>
> :> 3. An OS is something that runs on an x86.
>
> : Again, removing all context. We were talking about Linux's
> : many shortcomings, including it's inability to address >2GB
> : files on a 32-bit platform. This is a design flaw and lack
> : of professionalism by Linux "designers". NT and several other
> : OSen have been able to do this since their inception.
>
> Which is more unprofessional?  Requiring a machine with more than
> 32 bit addressing to support a file >2GB, or having an OS that
> can do a >2GB file on a 32-bit machine, but that's only because
> it doesn't even run at all on anything better than a 32-bit machine,
> since support for other archetectures was deemed unimportant and
> dropped?

NT has, and always will have support for multiple platforms. Just because
MS doesn't ship them, doesn't mean it's not there. You are smart enough
to realize this, aren't you?

NT has always had >2GB file support on every platform it's yet been
ported to:

IA32
MIPS
PPC
ALPHA
SPARC

Linux, however, took the cheap route and only supports it on specific
64-bit platforms which illustrates the design brain power deficit.

-Chad



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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:21:19 -0500


"Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:NIOP5.420$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > SNIP
> > > But it helps ignorant users remain ignorant and as a result make them
> > > vulnerable. The sad thing is that most of these users don't even have
> > > insight into the implications behind their ignorance. Some may feel
that
> > > they're being exploited by MS. Weeeeellll, I wouldn't necessarily say
so
> > > because if the UNIX type approach was all there is, computers wouldn't
> be
> > > so commonly used in the household setting. People would get frustrated
> > > because they'd actually have to learn to have fun.
> >
> > The next Outlook will block most file attachments by default. The
problem
> > will be gone and all those who can't get their frog in blender
attachments
> > will have to find another distibution route.
>
> Then out of nowhere comes public outcry for Frog-In-Blender attachment
> support. Even greater outcries over Hamster-In-Microwave attachments. The
> whole bloddy mess starts over again...
>
> Not a good solution.

Then if the request for an emergency Federal injuction on the blocking of
file attachments by Outlook falls through the people will have to mail
attachments with the extension removed. But since ms doesn't show extensions
by default the recipient will have no way to add the extension back to the
file, thus throwing the world into utter chaos! At this point the DOJ will
hold a press conference on the matter, vowing to right this wrong against
humanity by the evil and elusive Microsoft Corporation.
Ohhh...I can see it now!



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:26:42 -0500

A transfinite number of monkeys wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:58:11 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : My mistake
> :
> : 15 credit hours of calculus.
> :  5 credit hours of differential equations
> :        (best summed up as calculus by ESP)
> 
> What on earth are you blithering about?  The term "differential calculus"
> is used to describe the process of taking derivatives of functions in the

"differential calculus" is 1st semester calculus.

"differential equations" is 4th semster calculus


It is obvious that you have not taken the later.

> real and/or complex fields.  Likewise, the process of integration is
> referred to as "integral calculus".  You spent 5 hours of time learning
> how to take derivatives???  Perhaps you mean real analysis?  Or maybe
> vector calculus?


No...I mean Differential Equations.

Why don't you go to your nearest university, walk into a store that sells
curriculum textbooks, and compare the section of your freshman calc textbook
covering "differential calculus" with ANY book titled "differential
equations"....and notice that you cannot even BEGIN to solve differential
equations until you are PROFICIENT with integral calculus.

> 
> --
> Jason Costomiris <><           |  Technologist, geek, human.

You left out "uneducated"


> jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org  |  http://www.jasons.org/
>           Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:31:11 -0500

Simon Cooke wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Simon Cooke wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Simon Cooke wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Glenn McGregor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:laIN5.639$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > Actually ctrl-Z is the SUB character, not EOF.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe it was to be used for an indication of an alternate
> > > > > > character set, ie; substitute.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The closest current EOF character in ASCII is FS, the file
> separator
> > > > > > character.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oops :) I thought that ^Z was EOT or ETX. Need to get that memory
> > > checked.
> > > > >
> > > > > Either way, the PDP machines all used ^Z as their end-of-file
> marker.
> > > CPM
> > > > > and VMS also used it. If Gates wrote his first Basic on a PDP
> machine,
> > > ^Z
> > > >
> > > > But he didn't.  He PIRATED his first Basic from a PDP machine.
> > >
> > > Really? Like many of your claims, some proof would go a long way towards
> > > people actually believing them.
> > >
> > > The use of CTRL-Z as an end of file marker, when that was prevalent at
> the
> > > time, is not proof.
> >
> > it's NEVER been prevalent.
> >
> > End of File is Ctrl-D.  It's been that way since the 1950's when ASCII
> > was defined.
> 
> So what? I can count at least 8 OSs that use it as an end of file/record
> padding character. What does that tell you? That it wasn't prevalent?

Name them.

> 
> And as I said before, in EBCDIC (which predates ASCII), CTRL-Z is End Of
> Transmission. NOT CTRL-D


Interesting, but irrelevant, as Gates was supposedly writing in an
ASCII environment.

However, if one is merely pilfering someone else's code, then it
is entirely reasonable assume that the little weasel that he would
neglect to make the appropriate EBCDIC -> ASCII conversion...

...Because everything Gates does is half-assed...





> 
> Also, ASCII was not proposed until 1963, and was not DEFINED until 1968.

And Gates claims to have written Microsoft Basic in 1977.


> 
> So would you care to continue to explain why CTRL-Z means that Basic was
> pirated?


It demonstrates that BILL GATES's version, MICRO-SOFT BASIC was pirated.

> 
> Presumably if Microsoft's DOS used LF as its newline character, you'd claim
> that they stole it from LINUX?
> 
> Simon


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:32:09 -0500

Ayende Rahien wrote:
> 
> "Simon Cooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:bbZO5.9923$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> > Presumably if Microsoft's DOS used LF as its newline character, you'd
> claim
> > that they stole it from LINUX?
> 
> I wouldn't be so surprise, Aaron's grasp of time seemed to be... peculiar.

Yes, Simon  think it is quit normal for Gates to ignore a standard that
had been in place for a full decade.

Of course...for Gates...yes..that is normal.




-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:34:48 -0500

PLZI wrote:
> 
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:QTEP5.19645$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "PLZI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:FxCP5.196$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Nothing on *nix platform comes even close
> > > in the ease of use and the selection of languages.
> >
> > How
> > do you allow any file to specify it's own interpreter
> > and command line flags, and if you can't, why do
> > you like it?
> 
> This of course can be done with a cute little kludge (ie. using the shell

Everything in from Redmond is a Kludge


They should rename the company Microkludge.



> engine to launch another engine from the script itself, and reading the extra
> data within the file), but that is not my point. WSH engine itself has very
> little amount of parameters - round 10 or so, most of them displaying logo or
> defining the engine (CLI or GUI). What I like, is the amount of components,
> and how you can use them.
> 
> Let's have a few examples:
> 
> - ADSI, my best friend. Manage any user information in LDAP (or use it for
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you are an idiot.


> raw LDAP access, whatever the content), Netware, NDS or NT-based system. Same
> exact componet works from the VB, C++, VBA App (the whole Office), Delphi ...
> you call it, it's there. And the exact same code (given the basic user
> properties are available) works against any of the user management systems
> mentioned above. You can use it as objects or you can rummage through it with
> SQL statements. Took 30 lines of code to move the user accounts from our old
> netware to NT server. And I added user's email addresses, which were not
> available in the netware user info - took them from our intranet web site
> (yup, create a socket component, make a POST query, put the data in NT) - one
> problem solved.
> 
> - All the other nice, oh so nice readily available interfaces. Index Server.
> We do have gigabytes upon gigabytes of Office docs. Want to make a
> command-line query against the file server? No prob. Put the same code in
> ASP - yup, web page search. Want to have intelligent linking in Word docs?
> (like, find me all my previous docs from the file server which have something
> to do with this document) - 8 lines of code, same exact component model.
> 
> - ADO. Want to go through 100.000 text files, word docs, powerpoint
> presentations and so forth in the file server and collect, say file sizes,
> authors and what have you in a ...say Solid server database (any
> ODBC-compliant database will do).  Use Indes Server components (ah, it takes
> SQL queries as well, so no need to change the mindset to RegExp or plain
> english) to retreive, ADO to put the data in. So next week the Solid is gone,
> and there is Oracle on the other end? No prob. Change the ODBC link in
> Control Panel, no need to touch the code.
> 
> - Nice script you have there. Want to run the script as component? No
> problem. Wrap it in XML header, it's a COM component. You can use it in from
> another script, VB, C++, Delphi (here we go again), Rexx, Perl... And no
> compilation, it stays a script, but behaves like COM object. (you do not have
> to know what it is, where it is and so on. Want to distribute it, like DCOM
> object? No need to change anything).
> 
> - Automation objects. Mmm. I have 500 Word documents here. I need to extract
> their content, and ... mmm... collect all the headings in this text file. A
> raw-text index, if you like. Create Word as document from your script, and
> off you go - you can call any function in Word through the automation
> interface in the script. And access all the document's data through it. Say I
> want to have our logo in Powerpoint slides changed, 500 .PPT:s here? No prob.
> You can tell the Powerpoint automation object to change the picture in the
> lower-left corner of every slide to anything you want. Or draw new lines to
> the slides while you're at it. And let's have some copyright info in the
> slides, as well as the document properties as well. No sweat.
> 
> - Say, this script which changes the company logo on the fly is nice. Let's
> make sure that all the powerpoint presentations, which get uploaded through
> our webserver have this logo. Move the script to IIS, make it an ASP script.
> Few little changes, it does that.
> 
> - But now I have these stupid word docs here, and I want acrobat. I dont want
> to install acrobat distiller everywhere. Hey, I know, let's make a web
> service. Upload the doc, call the word automation object on the server
> through ASP, make it print the file through distiller. Save the temp, and
> stream it back to the uploader. Niiiiice. And not difficult at all.
> 
> - But I do not know how to write VBScript. Well, use J(ava)Script. Or perl.
> Or Rexx. Or php. Or TCL.
> 
> Can you guess by now, why I like the WSH, ASP and all those little other
> three-letter acronymes that come with Windows platform?
> 
> - PLZI


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:39:49 -0500

Bruce Schuck wrote:
> 
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:zUBP5.19544$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "PLZI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:UIpP5.6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > Why does Microsoft need 3rd party software for full remote
> > administration?
> > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?
> > >
> > > Please define "full remote administration"? On Terminal Server Client,
> you
> > > get the server console. TSC is a part of W2K server. You get two
> > concurrent
> > > licenses. So, if I see the server console before me, what am I missing
> > from
> > > "full remote administration"?
> >
> > What if you don't run windows on your desktop/laptop or whatever machine
> > is in front of you when you need to remotely administer something?
> 
> Then you are missing out on a tremendously productive OS. But you already
> knew that.

Let's see..which is more productive.

A) A Lose NT server that can handle 2, maybe 3 services one machine, or
B) A Unix server that can run 30 services one machine


Can you count?




> 
> > Or
> > even if you do, what if it isn't the machine where you installed your
> > licensed copy of the client?
> 
> You don't need to license the client. You get two Clinet Access Licenses. As
> long as only 2 connections are active, you can run the Client from any PC.
> Microsft even offers a web client ActiveX control.
> 
> > Do you have to sit in one place and wait
> > for the need to do remote administration?
> 
> Nope. But you knew that as I've already explained it to you.
> 
> > The only reasonable tool
> > I've found to deal with remote windows is VNC installed as a service
> > because you can run the java client in any browser if you don't happen
> > to have the client loaded wherever you are.
> 
> WTS has a browser-based ActiveX control client.

Translation: Another goddamned Security hole.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:41:53 -0500

Bruce Schuck wrote:
> 
> "Goldhammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:JgFP5.84353$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:26:24 GMT,
> > Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >I take it that is the Microsoft's pretense of portability.   Just
> > >as warped as usual.
> >
> > People who indoctrinate themselves into Microsoft's way
> > of thinking do indeed develop some very odd notions. You will
> > note these yourself as you observe the logic displayed by
> > some MS users.
> >
> > Some common trends:
> >
> > 1. A database is a file.
> 
> Or a collection of files.
> 
> >
> > 2. A portable application is one which can be easily
> > carried from one Windows installation to another. This
> > is what Bruce had in mind when he told me that Jet is
> > the right choice for "easy portability".
> 
> Try emailing a user an Oracle database.
> 
> I can email my users an Access database.

If the Oracle database is the same size as your pitiful little Access date file,
then it can be e-mailed just as easily.


> 
> >
> > 3. An OS is something that runs on an x86.
> 
> I kind of like VMS too.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
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H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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