Linux-Advocacy Digest #209, Volume #32 Thu, 15 Feb 01 12:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Dan Mercer)
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable? (Craig Kelley)
Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable? (Craig Kelley)
Re: KDE Whiners (Tim Hanson)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: Interesting article ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: NTFS Limitations ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: The Windows guy. ("Mike")
Re: KDE Whiners (Tim Hanson)
Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control) (Craig Kelley)
Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control) (Craig Kelley)
Re: I will give MS credit for one thing (pip)
Re: KDE Whiners (Tim Hanson)
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: I will give MS credit for one thing (pip)
Re: The Windows guy. (Tim Hanson)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 15 Feb 2001 15:59:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Peter T. Breuer writes:
>> Well, there are issues of sanity involved here. Doubting the evidence of
>> your own senses leaves you in a difficult position.
>
> Not quite what I took him to mean, but I _do_ doubt the evidence of my own
> senses in that I doubt single observations and try to rely on a
> preponderance of evidence. Experience has taught me that my senses are
> easily fooled and my memory unreliable. It has also taught me that this
> is true of other people, though most deny it.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
So, if you had personal experience of something inexplicable by science,
would you be more likely to believe that Science doesn't have the answers
for everything? I know that there are at least 3 incidents in my life
that can't be explained by any Physical laws I know.
--
Dan Mercer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:07:26 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis writes:
>
> >> Tom Wilson writes:
>
> >>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>>>> Thanks for proving my point, donkey raper.
>
> >>>> Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical argument.
>
> >>> Somebody stomp on the floor...Tholen's needle is skipping again!
>
> >> Illogical; I'm simply responding to Kulkis' multiple instances of
> >> invective. Perhaps you should investigate why Kulkis' "needle is
> >> skipping again".
>
> > I'm amusing
>
> On what basis do you make that ridiculous claim?
You are sooooooo blind.
>
> > You're not
>
> You're erroneously presupposing that I'm trying to be amusing, Kulkis.
In fact, you are highly annoying.
>
> > Hope that helps, oxygen thief.
>
> Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical argument.
Just a statement of fact, donkey-raper.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable?
Date: 15 Feb 2001 09:08:55 -0700
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > So you're a Microsoft *and* an Intel apologist?
>
> I like the Athlon, I just know that Intel is taking it's beating and licking
> it's wounds right now and WILL strike back hard.
>
> AMD managed to get a leg up on Intel because the current P3 architecture
> didn't scale as well as they planned and had to abandon it earlier than
> expected. They've been mobilizing for the coming war for the last year.
It's not like AMD is stagnating; look at LDT (I guess they call it
Hyper Transport now) and Sledgehammer (x86-64). If you believe the
marketspeak, it will trounce the IA64 in running "legacy 32-bit code"
while at the same time giving 64-bitianness (is that a word yet?) to
developers.
> > What do you think about McDonald's? :)
>
> I like their french fries ;)
Yeah, they are good.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable?
Date: 15 Feb 2001 09:11:02 -0700
Merijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Macintosh already has 64 bits OS for some years!
Huh? Macs are still trying to get preemptive multitasking (not that
they are related issues, but still).
> Microsoft has always been a bit slow and running a few years behind.
>
> Also see that article on zdnet or something.
Or something...
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Whiners
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:11:40 GMT
A transfinite number of monkeys wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:12:40 +0100, Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Weird.... for me it looks like Ximian trus to sell a modified Gnome with
> : some extra apps. Allways saw Gnome as the possible alternative to KDE in
> : the distant future and not Ximian.
>
> You're under no obligation to buy anything from Ximian. You can download
> *everything* that goes onto their CDs from their FTP site. Yet, this still
> seems to upset you somehow. Do you also get mad at RedHat for selling
> CDs of their distribution? How about BSDI/Walnut Creek for having the
> audacity to sell FreeBSD CD's?
>
> : Chorus of whinning?? No.. just complaining about the methods used and with
> : the desired result.
>
> The KDE people act as if it was some sort of sneaky trick.. Sheesh. You
> know, Cisco should stop advertising in Network World, since there might
> be people who get the magazine looking for info on Juniper or Nortel.
> Seeing a Cisco ad might make them upset. Sheesh. Grow up.
Where was the KDE "community open source spirit" when they were busy
hosing the Harmony project? Where was it when they were trying to
pressure the Debian project into bending the rules over the QPL?
Out of each commercial development license TrollTech sells, how much
kickback does the KDE team receive?
> : Weird that gnomers talk about whining when they wihinned about licence
> : issues for years.
>
> Apples to apples, please? One issue has to do with some people getting
> their shorts in a knot over someone's small, unobtrusive ad. The other
> does with creating "free" software that *depends* on software that was
> not even close to free.
--
Alone, adj.:
In bad company.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:13:49 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Surenko writes:
>> It also takes faith to believe the Universe is as appears to the 5
>> senses.
> I don't.
Good, Materialist bore me.
>> Because of this it also takes great faith to not believe ( or believe
>> not) in God.
> Nonsense.
Perhaps, given your answer above.
>> Science and logic are a religion.
> More nonsense.
The only way that the statement, "Science and logic are a religion"
can be argued about is to claim that they are merly tools. They
do not lead to "Truth" but to a organized way to think of things.
Warning, when I use the word sophist I use the original meaning,
not the insult in the dictionary. :-)
A sophist would claim that they have no understanding of the truths
of either the spiritual world or the material world. They have built
a model of what appears around them that works. Smart sophist have
a better model than less-smart sophists. It has no relationship
with knowlege or truth, just what appears to work.
Given that there are very few writers that are "true" ( sorry )
sophists it is a extremly difficult phylosophy to study.
With all my reading I've only been able to identify 3 ways
of thinking of it all. Spiritualism, Materialism and Sophistry.
All phylosophies and religions are a mixture of these.
Is this what you are saying?
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI
--
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
=============================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:15:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Said Mike Byrns in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:08:10
>> > [...]
>> >>Perhaps they, not you, define legality? I don't think that the USGov is
>> >>"scared" in any way. Triffled yes.
>> >
>> >Parsing error:Microsoft is the scared one.
>> >
>> Excuse my butting in here but what is "Triffled" ?
>
>very very mildly effected.
>
Thanks.
--
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
- BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:15:11 GMT
In article <0yOh6.18$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:9683o4$h0e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Entice customers with good, valuable software ? Microsoft !?
>>
>> What alternate reality are you from and how did you get here ?
>
>I don't think MS will be the ones to bring us this Panacea...
>
How will it be anyone else after MS has spent billions on hype
around .net ?
It Bill's vision of how to port their monopoly to the Internet.
Unless the courts break up the current monopoly he may be able to
lock in the .net one.
The reason it must be broken up rather than just say "don't do that"
is that they will keep trying different schemes to use their desktop
monopoly to create an Internet monopoly until they succeed.
Bill has said that the only way he can see to make money with
anything is to have what he calls a "singularity", monopoly to you
and me, because you being the only provider means that all the
customers come to you.
So much more lucrative than educating them to the value of your
product and hoping that they will pay what you ask.
--
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
- BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting
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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:18:22 GMT
"Nigel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:eJCi6.2046$uY2.42094@news2-hme0...
>
> > REAL soft links
> > REAL memory protected multi-tasking
> > REAL pipes
> > REAL multi-user capabilities
> > REAL remote usage
> >
>
> Wow - didn't think of all of these. Bet the windows clones of unix tools
> can't use the output of one command as commandline parameters for next
> command.
Huh? xargs works fine on my W2k machine. Were you thinking of something
else?
The stuff Aaron mentioned is more realistic. The NTFS file system supports
links, but not in a way that most Unix users would find useful. I'm not sure
what he means by "memory protected" multi-tasking, but I suspect he's
referring to Win95/98, not NT/2k. Pipes have been supported for years in
DOS - I'm not sure when they were first implemented, but I'm sure I remember
using pipes in DOS 2.0. Pipes are a pretty simple construct, so it's hard to
think of why they wouldn't be supported (is there some other pipe, Aaron?).
My Win2k box supports multiple users (but those familiar with W2k will
realize that "multiple" means 2). As far as remote usage goes, that's the
one point I'd acknowledge straight away, but it's not one that I find that I
miss.
-- Mike --
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Whiners
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:20:59 GMT
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > : Chorus of whinning?? No.. just complaining about the methods used and
> > with
> > : the desired result.
> >
> > The KDE people act as if it was some sort of sneaky trick.. Sheesh.
> > You know, Cisco should stop advertising in Network World, since there
>
> That's crap you're talking. Network World is about networks in general,
> so you's expect advertising. A search for KDE is a search for KDE. If I
> search for KDE I want to see KDE stuff, not some competitors advertising.
>
It's a search for KDE over a commercial engine, in this case Google,
which sells commercial space. Anyone is entitled to buy space,
including Ximian. If you don't want to see Ximian or any other
advertizing, find a search engine which does not accept advertizing. As
far as I know, no medium allows users to self-select which ads they see
or don't see.
The tone from the KDE people appears to be that of an offended public
charity, sort of like searching for a doctor and seeing cigarette
advertizing. This is not so. KDE is no less a commercial enterprise
than Ximian is; they just hide behind TrollTech for their licensing
revenue, so they can pretend to write nothing but free software. They
are subject to competition, just like everyone else. That competition
can not be counted on to play along with their little "free software"
shell game.
--
Alone, adj.:
In bad company.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control)
Date: 15 Feb 2001 09:22:53 -0700
"Mark Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> > Think public-key encryption. Signed stuff cannot be broken with
> > technology when half the key resides outside of your control. When
> > was the last time a 1024bit RSA key was legitimately cracked?
> >
> > Now, social engineering is another ball of wax.
> >
>
> But nobody will bother to try to crack 1024 bit RSA encryption. The point
> is that if you start with encrypted audio, you can't run it through the D/A
> converter on the sound card until it is decrypted. That creates the
> possibility of grabbing the unencrypted audio stream. MS is trying to make
> that as difficult as possible. (If this latest effort doesn't work, their
> next move, probably, will be a sound-card standard where the decryption is
> done by the sound-card itself).
True, but signed drivers are one step in that direction. It won't
address runinng Windows XP under VMWare, but perhaps they'll make that
illegal/impossible with the next release?
The whole point is: Microsoft is losing their main revenue stream and
they will take out whoever they need to in order to maintain it. That
is why we want the XBox to be as successful as possible, so that they
don't feel so threatened.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control)
Date: 15 Feb 2001 09:24:07 -0700
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Protection schemes of any sort only lasted a few weeks in the eighties.
> >> Now, nearly everybody has a computer. It'll be only days before its'
> >> broken.
> >
> > Think public-key encryption. Signed stuff cannot be broken with
> > technology when half the key resides outside of your control. When was
> > the last time a 1024bit RSA key was legitimately cracked?
>
> That does not matter. There are no loudspeakers out there which play
> encrypted sound. At some point the sound file has to be decrypted.
They already have encryption-in-the-monitor in the works, why not the
same for speakers?
> If the computer has the ability somewhere to decrypt the sound file, then
> someone will find a way of extracting the sound as enencryprted digital
> audio. If the computer doesn't have that ability, then it couldn't play
> the sound file ayway, making it a useless format.
That's true today -- but they are fighting a war against that sort of
"right".
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I will give MS credit for one thing
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:23:54 +0000
Todd wrote:
>
> "pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Well, let me say that I agree with OP - Windows media
> > player _is_ a nice piece of software - reliable, simple
> > and usable. It is very - how can I phrase - Un-M$like.
> > Credit to them.
>
> Agree. What do you think about NetMeeting and MSN messenger? I think MSN
> messenger is a nice piece of work (not as many features as ICQ). Also,
> NetMeeting is very useful at work. Both of those apps. are *very* nice
> under Windows 2000. Not sure about under 9x.
I hate MSN messenger - it starts up without my permission and I can't
find the registry entry. I already have icq, so I hate the way this
is thrust on me when I don't want it.
Netmeeting is OK, there should be a better way of finding people than
the current directory service.
I tried a linux version of icq, but it was crap. Can't remember which
one - but when I get my adsl connection working under Linux I'll either
have to find another or fix up the code to be not crap as I love ICQ
(yes I know about the protocol's problems and security flaws). My
friends
only use ICQ so somehow I must find a compatible program. I don't relish
the fixing up the code - because I had a quick look at it and it looked
like
a bit of a hack - so maybe difficult to fix without breaking other
things :-(
[snip]
> I didn't say the code was 'bad', I said it looks like a hack. Check the
> source yourself... it is amazing the thing *starts*.
I have in fact.
It seems OK to me - clear, concise and to the point.
Comments are valid (most of the time).
Interfaces are clear.
Would you beg to differ?
> BTW, Linux *has* crashed on me or forced me to reboot... either way, that is
> undesirable.
Linux has _never_ crashed on me. Maybe I am lucky.
X has frozen many times - but I am able to telnet in and
restart it even if it locks up. [deleted little mini-rant
about X]
> I use HP-UX at work, and that is a *ton* more reliable than Linux if you
> want to compare Unixen.
Never used HP-UX. You may be enjoying Gnome soon then :-)
> >
> > ...fair challenge...
>
> Yah... I've heard this cry from anti-MS advocates from a long while with no
> proof... then they come up with APIs from some *book*... WELL, then it is
> DOCUMENTED.
>
> Heh.
>
> Anyway, MS does acknowledge there *are* undocumented calls in Windows, but
> they are undocumented so developers DO NOT USE them as they MAY CHANGE
> without notice.
undocumented API's are just plain bad news.
> All OSes developed centrally have those.
They shouldn't
[snip]
> > why am I agreeing with you?
> > Yes - media is WHAT LINUX should kick arse at.
>
> You are right... it should. What Linux needs is a DirectX - an API that
> covers *all* types of media.
Direct X is a bit cobbled together, but has improved a lot - you
are right that it is a __lot easier__ than anything under Linux.
BUT: I thought that there was a project to produce such a framework?
(the name slips my mind)
> Since it is quite fully documented, some Linux guru should start porting the
> basic DX calls - would be a boon if you were a developer to target Linux as
> well as Win32/DX for games and media!
For me cross-platform source compatibility is a _really- big deal.
I am currently looking at QT because of this.
[snip]
> Heh. How do you feel about Solaris / FreeBSD / HP-UX?
Well I have the attitude that you should use whichever OS
fits your needs for a particular application. I don't really
have any opinions on these to be quite frank: I only understand
Linux and win32. I have only _used_ Solaris and have no real interest
in using it. From the source code point of view it is good to contrast
how say BSD does things with how Linux does things. The problem is
there is _so_ much code in any system that this is really hard to easily
do unless you are _really_ into it and not just toying with a few
changes as I am. Documentation is usually crap. This is bad.
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Whiners
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:25:34 GMT
Mig wrote:
>
> Tim Hanson wrote:
>
> > Mig wrote:
> > >
> > > Tim Hanson wrote:
> > >
> > > > It looks to me like simple competition, which _always_ benefits the
> > > > consumer.
> > >
> > > BS..... This is about KDE<->Ximian and not Gnome<->KDE.
> > >
> > > Ximian is a commercial entity that uses dirty tricks to sell their
> > > products - its as simple as that.
> > > --
> > > Cheers
> > This is the first time I've seen advertizing described as a dirty trick.
>
> Its certainly not what we in Europe are used to.
If "we in Europe" can't get used to it, "we in Europe" need to get out
of the global software market. It's a dog's life.
> Why the heck should there
> be a link to Ximian when one searches for "TheKompany" or "TrollTech" or
> "KDE" ??
Why not? For Ximian it's good business.
> I do remenber a case where a comapany had put searchwords for another
> company in its meta tags so that when customers searched for the second
> company in searchengines they got most pointers to the competitor. Needless
> to say that the dirtbags lost in court. I find this to be pretty close.
>
Okay, then let's test it in court.
> If it was not dirty why is it then removed?
They shouldn't have caved to KDE whining. They should have made the ads
bigger.
--
Alone, adj.:
In bad company.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:30:03 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis writes:
>
> >> chrisv writes:
>
> >>>>> Sheesh, can't you morons trim your posts?
>
> >>>> Who are the alleged morons here?
>
> >>> You and Kulkis.
>
> >> On what basis do you include me? Note that I *have* been trimming
> >> away Kulkis' ridiculous .sig.
>
> > If a thing does the job which it is designed to do, and does it
> > well, then you must be using a definition of ridiculous which
> > differs from the rest of the world.
>
> The key word here is "if". Please demonstrate that it does either.
It has successfully reduced garbage responses by those mentioned
within by approx. 98%....which is what it was designed to do.
Is any of this getting through to you, oxygen thief.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I will give MS credit for one thing
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:29:19 +0000
Todd wrote:
> [snip]
> I know Linux users don't think much of IE, but this is because they can't
> run it. If they could, they would see that it ROCKS over Netscape any day.
> I have found that IE crashes *a lot* under 9x, but extremely rarely under
> w2k - in fact, it doesn't crash on me at all under w2k.
Well, I run Win98SE and can say that it is as crap as netscape.
Of course the Linux version of netscape is worse. If you are
looking for examples of hacked code.... I give you Netscrape.
I wonder why it should be more stable under win2k? I assume
that it uses the same components?
> > Yea games, you know, toys.
>
> Yea, you know, the multi billion dollar industry.
You are right - games a VERY big - the third
largest Japanese export last time I looked - and that
is pretty amazing!
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:32:08 GMT
A transfinite number of monkeys wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:38:29 -0500, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : He is working on a Linux web server. He wants to do a global replace in VI. I
> : tell him to use sed. He whines a bit, then tries it. I hear from his cube.
> : "Sweet!"
>
> Why bother leaving vi to do something that simple?
>
> :%s/find-expression/replace-expression/g
I have spent the last couple of weeks learning some of the nuances of
sed, and it _is_ slick.
--
Alone, adj.:
In bad company.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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