Linux-Advocacy Digest #631, Volume #30 Sun, 3 Dec 00 17:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is awful ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their PC's? (JM)
Re: Linux is awful (Jerry Peters)
Re: Linux is awful (Jerry Peters)
.The beauty of open source (Milton)
Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their PC's? (Russ Lyttle)
Re: Linux is awful ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Linux is awful ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: .The beauty of open source ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:37:08 -0500
Nigel Feltham wrote:
>
> >> Are you really saying there's a version of windows on the market
> >> which can be installed from a CD and does not need to be rebooted?
> >
> >No, nor there is any system that you can do it with.
> >I was talking about removing & adding TCP/IP.
> >
>
> Not had much linux experience then have you - SUSE install CD either boots
> into installer directly or starts installer from DOS with cd driver loaded.
> Once
> installed linux starts without reboot and almost anything can be
> reconfigured
> without a reboot (add and remove tcp/ip, change ip number, probably anything
> else except upgrading kernel). Mandrake and other linuxes are almost the
> same
> except needing 1 reboot between installing linux and using it. Windows needs
> at least 3 reboots just to install it then one for each minor configuration
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> change.
^^^^^^
You mean "each and ever trifling configuration change"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:32:39 +0200
"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >
> > "Kenny Pearce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Eric Meyer wrote:
> > >
> > > > >They should really try doing a Windows install before complaining.
> > > >
> > > > I have many times. It may not be as easy as installing Office (or
the
> > like),
> > > > but it's still a hundred times easier than linux.
> > > >
> > > > Em
> > >
> > > RedHat installation is really easy... at least as easy as win95/98
> > > installation... I've never installed any other distros...
> >
> > Redhat custom install can be hard, because you need to repartition your
HD.
> > Server install should be avoided at all cost, RedHat somehow figured out
if
> > I choose to install a server, I have no need for information on my HDs.
And
> > so it deletes them happily without even asking my opinion about it.
> > Never installed a workstation RH, can't say anything about it.
>
> Just read the guides first.
I know that it is in the docs, the reason I've problems with it is that
Redhat neglected to put a simple warning box through the installation.
You may disagree, but on every other possibly distructive action, you get a
warning saying this may be dangerous. Why not on one of the most dangerous
thing that you can do to your computer?
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:34:45 +0200
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:qqqW5.8444$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> > Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> >>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
>
> >>>>>> The movement keys are placed sensibly in vi (hjkl),
>
> >>>>> Which is not intuitive. First-time vi users, if they try to do
>
> >>>> Big fucking deal. NOTHING about computers is "intuitive"
>
> >>> Incorrect; consider the power switch.
>
> >> You'd be surprised....
> >> Never underestimate the idiot factor.
>
> > The power switch is NOT "intuitive"
>
> You mean you need to consult a manual to learn how to turn a computer
> on???
Considerring whom you are talking to, I wouldn't be surprised.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:03:57 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:xwqW5.8445$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Tom Wilson writes:
> >
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > >> Tom Wilson wrote:
> >
> > >>> I wrote:
> >
> > >>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
> >
> > >>>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
> >
> > >>>>>>> The movement keys are placed sensibly in vi (hjkl),
> >
> > >>>>>> Which is not intuitive. First-time vi users, if they try to do
> >
> > >>>>> Big fucking deal. NOTHING about computers is "intuitive"
> >
> > >>>> Incorrect; consider the power switch.
> >
> > >>> You'd be surprised....
> > >>> Never underestimate the idiot factor.
> >
> > >> The power switch is NOT "intuitive"
> > >>
> > >> Proof: put a primative tribesman in a room with electric appliances
> > >> and tell him to start the things into operation.
> >
> > > I'm in agreement.
> >
> > You shouldn't be. His example doesn't represent proof for a power
> > switch not being intuitive.
>
> I'm agreeing that my choice of "idiot" was wrong. The hypothesis, strange as
> it is, points it out. It's a matter of experience and environment, not
> intellect. I used the word idiot because I had been trouble-shooting over
> the phone to complete morons that evening and had a dim view of humanity as
> a result.
>
> >
> > > The language I used, in hindsight, was wrong.
> >
> > That doesn't justify your agreement.
>
> How do you figure? I was agreeing that my wording was off track and Aaron's
> post had pointed that out.
>
> >
> > > Read: Never underestimate the ignorance factor.
> > >
> > > I used "idiot" because i'ts been one of those nights...
> >
> > Go to the store. Buy a lamp. Take it home. Do you consult a manual
> > to find out what to do with the cord? I hope not. Yet the hypothesized
> > "primative tribesman" could have no idea what the cord is for. Does that
> > prove that the power cord is not intuitive?
>
> Oh for God's sake!
>
> His hypothesis was extreme, yes. However, it makes a valid point regarding
> experience. You're bordering on anal retention, i'm afraid.
Everything about Tholen is anus-related.
>
> --
> Tom Wilson
>
> "Feminists like to set the pace for how women like Mrs. Clinton are judged,
> correct? Well, in recent weeks feminist writers for The Washington Post and
> other news outlets have told us that we ought to judge Katherine Harris by
> her eyelashes, makeup and wardrobe, and decide based on these criteria that
> she cannot be trusted. So it's apparently okay, once again, to judge a
> female politician based on her looks, figure, clothes or makeup. This makes
> me think of something we can now say about Mrs. Clinton. In line with the
> feminists, I want to be the first to go on record as asserting that we
> cannot believe anything Hillary Clinton says, because she has a big broad
> beam and elephant ankles - and I want to thank the feminists of America for
> agreeing with me. "
>
> -- Rush Limbaugh
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JM)
Subject: Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their PC's?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 19:07:39 GMT
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:26:18 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
(jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>How come Dell bundles Windows with every PC?
>Why can't I buy a machine without having to pay extra for Windows?
>Same goes for all the other manufacturers.
Why don't you just build them yourself?
------------------------------
From: Jerry Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 21:10:03 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Ayende Rahien wrote:
>> >
>> > "Kenny Pearce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > Eric Meyer wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > >They should really try doing a Windows install before complaining.
>> > > >
>> > > > I have many times. It may not be as easy as installing Office (or
> the
>> > like),
>> > > > but it's still a hundred times easier than linux.
>> > > >
>> > > > Em
>> > >
>> > > RedHat installation is really easy... at least as easy as win95/98
>> > > installation... I've never installed any other distros...
>> >
>> > Redhat custom install can be hard, because you need to repartition your
> HD.
>> > Server install should be avoided at all cost, RedHat somehow figured out
> if
>> > I choose to install a server, I have no need for information on my HDs.
> And
>> > so it deletes them happily without even asking my opinion about it.
>> > Never installed a workstation RH, can't say anything about it.
>>
>> Just read the guides first.
> I know that it is in the docs, the reason I've problems with it is that
> Redhat neglected to put a simple warning box through the installation.
> You may disagree, but on every other possibly distructive action, you get a
> warning saying this may be dangerous. Why not on one of the most dangerous
> thing that you can do to your computer?
Reminds me of Windows, "are you sure ... " etc on every stupid thing.
Now even xcopy whines when you copy over a file. But, just double
click on a .reg file and it merges it into the registry! No questions
asked. I remember reading of someone that did this on a .reg file from
NT on W9x (or maybe vice versa) and destroyed his system.
Jerry
------------------------------
From: Jerry Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 21:13:49 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Jerry Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:BieW5.5326$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.x Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Then let's discuss the registry, another stinking pile of dung from
>> >> MS. The same information repeated multiple times under indecipherable
>> >> keys with little or no documentation. I'll take text format files any
>> >> day.
>>
>> > The registry is hard to deciphere.
>> > You aren't suppose to work with it directly, not unless you've a good
> level
>> > of understanding about it.
>>
>> Oh yeah, little things like software that puts run some crud at
>> startup in the registry that you want to get rid of.
> msconfig.exe
>> > As for it to be undocumented, this is *false*.
>> > There are *plenty* of resources to find out what each key or node or
> value
>> > does.
>> > Take a trip to *any* good NT/2K focused site, and you'll find plenty of
>> > tips on what the registry does, how it does it, and how to change it.
>>
>> But I shouldn't have to read anything or know anything to admin my
>> computer, recognize the quote? At least the old *.ini files made some
>> sense, the registry is just crap.
> No, if you want to use the registry directly, you need to read.
> If you use the tools that the OS/Application supply, you generaly don't need
> to use the registry directly.
Ecxept that the OS and applications have a habit of doing things that
I don't want, and the only way to fix them is to edit the registry.
The typical windows mentality, BTW, "we know what's best for you".
My major reason for editting the registry is to remove all of the junk
that various apps add to startup. If they would only just add the damn
things to the startup folder so I could remove them.
Jerry
------------------------------
From: Milton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: .The beauty of open source
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:18:02 -0500
http://linux.com/news/newsitem.phtml?sid=1&aid=11337
"And what do we make? Software for those who grew up with
computers. Software for people who hate wizards, and plug and play,
and lack of control. Software for people who can see the beauty of a
properly working system. We make software for people who love
choice. We make software that works, even when hardware
manufacturers won't pony up the documentation, even when we have
to reverse engineer things that should be publicly available, we make
it happen."
"We wished it so hard that, one day, it just came true."
That sure as hell looks like a .sig to me.
Linux -> We wished it so hard that, one day, it just came true.
--
��������������������������������������������������
Milton B. Hewitt
CAUCE Member - http://www.cauce.org
Proud supporter of the Microsoft Boycott Campaign
http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
���������������������������������������������������
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From: Russ Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their PC's?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 21:19:52 GMT
jtnews wrote:
>
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > No, you said "How come Dell bundles Windows with every PC?"
> >
> > Answer. They don't. You are wrong.
>
> You're correct, the title should read,
> "How come Dell bundles Windows with all their *cheap* PC's?"
>
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Answer : why bother to put a good operating system on a cheap machine?
"Inexpensive" != "Cheap". Lots of expensive machines are cheap, but few
cheap machines are inexpensive.
--
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 23:19:17 +0200
"Jerry Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:LEyW5.2831$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.x Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Kenny Pearce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > Eric Meyer wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > >They should really try doing a Windows install before
complaining.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have many times. It may not be as easy as installing Office (or
> > the
> >> > like),
> >> > > > but it's still a hundred times easier than linux.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Em
> >> > >
> >> > > RedHat installation is really easy... at least as easy as win95/98
> >> > > installation... I've never installed any other distros...
> >> >
> >> > Redhat custom install can be hard, because you need to repartition
your
> > HD.
> >> > Server install should be avoided at all cost, RedHat somehow figured
out
> > if
> >> > I choose to install a server, I have no need for information on my
HDs.
> > And
> >> > so it deletes them happily without even asking my opinion about it.
> >> > Never installed a workstation RH, can't say anything about it.
> >>
> >> Just read the guides first.
>
> > I know that it is in the docs, the reason I've problems with it is that
> > Redhat neglected to put a simple warning box through the installation.
> > You may disagree, but on every other possibly distructive action, you
get a
> > warning saying this may be dangerous. Why not on one of the most
dangerous
> > thing that you can do to your computer?
>
> Reminds me of Windows, "are you sure ... " etc on every stupid thing.
> Now even xcopy whines when you copy over a file. But, just double
> click on a .reg file and it merges it into the registry! No questions
> asked. I remember reading of someone that did this on a .reg file from
> NT on W9x (or maybe vice versa) and destroyed his system.
No, if you double click a reg file, it tell you "Are you sure you want to
add the information in <file name> to the registry?"
------------------------------
From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 23:20:25 +0200
"Jerry Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:hIyW5.2834$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.x Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Jerry Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:BieW5.5326$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In comp.os.linux.x Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> >> Then let's discuss the registry, another stinking pile of dung from
> >> >> MS. The same information repeated multiple times under
indecipherable
> >> >> keys with little or no documentation. I'll take text format files
any
> >> >> day.
> >>
> >> > The registry is hard to deciphere.
> >> > You aren't suppose to work with it directly, not unless you've a good
> > level
> >> > of understanding about it.
> >>
> >> Oh yeah, little things like software that puts run some crud at
> >> startup in the registry that you want to get rid of.
>
> > msconfig.exe
>
> >> > As for it to be undocumented, this is *false*.
> >> > There are *plenty* of resources to find out what each key or node or
> > value
> >> > does.
> >> > Take a trip to *any* good NT/2K focused site, and you'll find plenty
of
> >> > tips on what the registry does, how it does it, and how to change it.
> >>
> >> But I shouldn't have to read anything or know anything to admin my
> >> computer, recognize the quote? At least the old *.ini files made some
> >> sense, the registry is just crap.
>
> > No, if you want to use the registry directly, you need to read.
> > If you use the tools that the OS/Application supply, you generaly don't
need
> > to use the registry directly.
>
> Ecxept that the OS and applications have a habit of doing things that
> I don't want, and the only way to fix them is to edit the registry.
> The typical windows mentality, BTW, "we know what's best for you".
>
> My major reason for editting the registry is to remove all of the junk
> that various apps add to startup. If they would only just add the damn
> things to the startup folder so I could remove them.
Why are you doing this via the registry?
msconfig.exe, the last tab.
You can disable/restore/delete programs that run from startup.
------------------------------
From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 21:37:27 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Wilson wrote:
> >
> > "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:38:26 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >well to be honest the legal system never thought we would have such a
> > > >crybaby loser like we have with Gore so b/c of him we are having a 30
> > > >day election instead of a 1 day election with some votes counted 5
times
> > > >and the other 95% counted once.
> > >
> > > Gore did win the popular vote nationally, so your man Bush was really
> > > the minority choice. If the tables were turned, would you be telling
> > > Bush to concede or would you be insisting that he's only taking
> > > advantage of the options available and saying that the electoral
> > > college system needs to be thrown out?
> >
> > <soapbox>
> >
> > Actually, Republicans wouldn't have allowed Bush to follow this course.
> > They're not stupid. What Gore is doing now is damaging a party already
> > banged-up by Clinton. How the hell else, in this strong economy, could
the
> > election have even been close? What Gore's doing now is adding more
nails
> > to the Democratic coffin. I used to be a STAUNCH Democrat, until around
> > 1993. The Democratic party, now, isn't the party I used to support.
Their
> > idiotic post-election behavior just re-enforces that decision. The
longer it
> > goes on, the less viable the party becomes. A smart Democratic party
would
> > have gracefully bowed out, allowed the Republicans to have a
legitimately
> > questionable four year turn at the helm, then come back and clean house
in
> > 2004. As it stands, they're putting 2002 senate races in jeopardy. Mark
my
> > words, the longer this goes on, the more seats they'll lose. Now, any
> > efforts by them to tie up the senate to counter Bush proposals will
appear
> > as more sour grapes. In 2004, they're going to nominate Hillary Clinton.
> > Just watch. It will be an unmitigated disaster!
>
> The Democrats are at the point of Desperation
>
> Here's what they (the Demoncroos) are facing:
>
> 1) No Gore-issued universal pardon for Bill Clinton.
> 2) Justice Department will FULLY investigate the relationship between
> Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and agents of the (communist) Chinese
> People's Army, including illegal campaign contributions,
> Clinton's executive order MANDATING nuclear weapons research
> facilities REDUCE their counter-espionage actions and precedures
As opposed to investigating the links between the comunist chinese and GHWB
Sr. in relation to the granting of Favored Nation Trading Status shortly
after Tienenman Square.
> 3) Exposure of their fear-tactics to be nothing but lies.
> Democrats have been claiming for years that if the Republicans
> get power, that the result will be concentration camps for
> blacks, and elderly kicked out into the streets to starve to death.
>
> 4) Republican control of the education system, resulting in reforms
> that start to re-introduce actual EDUCATION in inner city schools.
>
By removing any funding for the systems. Good choice that one.
>
> 5) They know that Republicans want to get blacks INTO the work force.
> More self-sufficient blacks means fewer parasites who vote straight
> ticket Demoncrook. Democrat strategy is based on maintaining a large
> population of people who are kept impoverished so that they can lure
> people to the voting booth with promises for more and more handouts.
>
>
At least Buchanan was honest enough to run on the true RACIST GOP agenda.
>
>
> >
> > IDIOTS!
> >
> > </soapbox>
>
> They're not idiots...they are ruthless manipulators who are in rational
> FEAR OF BECOMING EXPOSED for liars, cheaters, and traitors that they are.
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Tom Wilson
> > A Computer Programmer who wishes he'd chosen another vocation.
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: .The beauty of open source
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:49:37 -0500
Milton wrote:
>
> http://linux.com/news/newsitem.phtml?sid=1&aid=11337
>
> "And what do we make? Software for those who grew up with
> computers. Software for people who hate wizards, and plug and play,
> and lack of control. Software for people who can see the beauty of a
> properly working system. We make software for people who love
> choice. We make software that works, even when hardware
> manufacturers won't pony up the documentation, even when we have
> to reverse engineer things that should be publicly available, we make
> it happen."
>
> "We wished it so hard that, one day, it just came true."
>
> That sure as hell looks like a .sig to me.
>
> Linux -> We wished it so hard that, one day, it just came true.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Linux -> We MADE THE EFFORT, so that one day, it came true.
>
> --
> ��������������������������������������������������
> Milton B. Hewitt
> CAUCE Member - http://www.cauce.org
> Proud supporter of the Microsoft Boycott Campaign
> http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
> ���������������������������������������������������
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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