Linux-Advocacy Digest #577, Volume #31 Fri, 19 Jan 01 14:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: "Linux is no Windows killer" ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: OS-X GUI on Linux? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: TCO challenge: [was Linux 2.4 Major Advance] (Steve Mading)
Re: TCO challenge: [was Linux 2.4 Major Advance] (Steve Mading)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Steve Mading)
Re: Oh look! A Linux virus! ("Chris Coyle")
Re: Definition: Desktop, Workstation, Server.
Re: Dell system with Linux costs *more* than with Win2K
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Steve Mading)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Re: Poor Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: I just can't help it! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:31:00 -0500
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > 2.) We weren't distributing "consumer digital" products, we
> > > were making videos. Breaking up the already whole videos is
> > > just ANOTHER step we'd have to go through to reach the final product.
> > > All because of Linux's poor design. That's not a valid excuse
> > > when there are plenty of better choices out there.
> >
> > Linux is not at all at fault in this scenario. You have issues with the
> > limitations of one filesystem. Exactly like the limitations of FAT or
> > NTFS (I know NTFS can handle larger files than ext2, but that doesn't
> > mean it doesn't have its limits).
>
> The only real limitation of NTFS I'm aware of is slow new-file creation when
> dealing with orders of tens of millions of files.
^^^^^
flies
>
> Sometimes ago someone mentioned ADS as an NTFS exploit, but I've found
> absolutely no information about this.
>
> Do you've more details about it? I would love to hear about it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Linux is no Windows killer"
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:32:04 -0500
Salvador Peralta wrote:
>
> kiwiunixman wrote:
> >
> > You must understand, by todays point and click generation, hes a fucking
> > genious, my opinion, get him to admin an NT server farm in a large
> > corperation for a couple of years, then he will know the horror of Windows!
>
> I'm not sure he's qualified. He just sent me an email which conceded
> that cli tools are often better than gui tools but which also explained
> that his job is to "help everyday users with everyday technology which
> does not consist of UNIX, HTML, or any other programming code".
I guess the Internet just works by *magic*, or something.
>
> *SIGH*
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://salvador.venice.ca.us
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:39:38 -0500
Kevin Ford wrote:
>
> I think you mean incompetent system architect for choosing NT.
Incompetent NT LoseDOS admin and incompetetant system architects who
choose LoseDOS products....go hand in hand.
>
> Kyle Jacobs once wrote:
> >If you have to reinstall Windows NT or 2000 more than a few times when
> >"something" goes wrong, you are an incompetent administrator.
> >
> >
> >
> >"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <9481dp$8c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> Lewis Miller wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>We're talking about workstations here. I wouldn't trust IIS on ANYTHING
> >> >>that even closely classified as "enterprise". Or do you have another
> >> >>definition of "workstation"?
> >> >
> >> >Right, but we're talking about Linux. Linux is a server OS. Through and
> >> >through. So that's why we keep coming back to this point. Workstations be
> >> >damned. you have a problem with a workstation, you don't even try to fix
> >> >it. You grab the image file off the server and reimage the machine. Bam
> >> >it's just like new. That's how to fix a Windows workstation.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> The point made here for the CLUELESS is that Windows spent the
> >> time to make their REINSTALL effortless. WHY you ASK?
> >>
> >> Because you HAVE to re-install Windows MANY times over the life
> >> of your MACHINE. That's because Windows is a peice of shit!
> >>
> >> Linux is always, install it once, use it, upgrade it when
> >> upgrades are available, but you never have to re-install it
> >> unless you've just lost your hardware.
> >>
> >> Or your mind.
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> ---
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:40:23 -0500
Kevin Ford wrote:
>
> Tom Wilson once wrote:
> >
> >"ono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:942ii8$ev5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > It doesn't have to be VBasic, for me. However, a VBasic for
> >> > Linux should be possible -- there's already a
> >> development/emulator/something
> >> > for Solaris that allows for the running of Microsoft VBasic;
> >> > its main problem is calling [D]COM/ActiveX/whatever things.
> >> And that's the point. The beauty of js,vbs is it's ability to interact
> >with
> >> the system through COM!
> >> (you can't even write a decent script-virus with linux)
> >
> >And this is a BAD thing???
> >
> >I hope this is a joke...
> >
> >
>
> I always like c:\com\com .....
C code.
C code run.
Run, code! Run!
PLEASE!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS-X GUI on Linux?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:42:53 -0500
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > It's complex layer upon complex layer. It's fast becoming a house of
> > cards.
> >>
> >> No, it's SIMPLE AND RELIABLE LAYER upon SIMPLE AND RELIABLE LAYER...
>
> > I hate to tell you this, but X is not a "simple" layer. Looked at the X
> > reference manuals lately? In fact, X's complexity is the main reason for
> > toolkits like QT, gtk+, etc..
>
> Right. In theory, unix is a great operating system because everything is
> done in layers. In theory, desktop environments are about 3 or 4 layers
> deep. This sounds like a good idea. In practice, and I hate to mention this
> because I'm a unix guy, it kind of sucks. Why? Just take a look at the
> library dependencies. There's so many dynamically linked libraries. This
> hurts performance in practice, because there's a chance that those libs the
> app is dynamically linked to are scattered in different memory segments. When
> you have only a couple DLLs, or the app is statically linked, there is a
> greater chance all your runtime libs fall within the same memory segment.
> Also, note that with a proliferation of runtime library dependencies, there's
> a chance some of those dynamic libs are in swap, while others aren't.
When you upgrade libraries....upgrade ALL the libraries.
Poof....problem gone.
>
> Also, with more library layers, there's a greater chance that one or more
> libraries falls inside a different page of memory than the others, which
> would degrade performance.
>
> It's true. So that's why you have to look at the whole "in theory" vs. "in
> practice" scenario.
>
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: TCO challenge: [was Linux 2.4 Major Advance]
Date: 19 Jan 2001 18:04:47 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: For the numbers that really matter (Fortune and Global 500)
: IIS is in the lead. These are realatively new numbers, the gap
: is widening between IIS and Apache. Apache was the stronghold, now
: it's losing share left and right to IIS.
Stop re-introducing arguemnts that have already been shot down.
This has already been gone over before: Most of the big money
companies in those lists are NOT the ones making the most use of
the web for their critical business. If Crysler's web site
goes down for a day, they still sell cars and make money that day.
If amazon.com's web site goes down for a day, they don't sell
jack that day. The foturne 500's are not the ones to watch when
it comes to web technology. Most of their websites are nothing
more than advertising.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: TCO challenge: [was Linux 2.4 Major Advance]
Date: 19 Jan 2001 18:09:52 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:9429n6$11rm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Conrad Rutherford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:> : You certainly mean "Linux replace Windows" - windows is already here, it's
:> : entrenched. The new kid on the block is Linux, [...snip]
:>
:> Not for servers. It was quite clear he was talking about servers.
:> For servers, Windows is more of a newcomer than Linux (although I
:> suppose Linux is actually younger, but it gains a lot of
:> "entrenchment" for free by being a UNIX clone.).
: Um, you are incorrect. Windows NT and 2000 have a far larger share
: in the server market than Linux.
Exactly how was this measured? Remember, that with Linux, "pirating",
so to speak, is perfectly legal. Therefore any percentage measured
by sales is bullshit.
: Perhaps you should check your facts.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: 19 Jan 2001 18:19:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: - MS has one of the best security response time to discovered exploits.
: Even better than Red Hat in most cases. And MS even tests their patches
: and then does a full regression test each Service Pack, something
: Red Hat doesn't do.
Nice try, Oh deceptive one, but you know damn well that the time a fix
appears FROM REDHAT is typically NOT the first moment the fix is
available to the public - it is available first from the original
project that wrote the software redhat is *redistributing*. A fix for
a kernel bug will appear at the kernel site long before Redhat echoes
that fix on its own site. A fix for apache will appear at the apache
site long before Redhat echoes that fix on its own site, and so on
and so forth. What you did would be just as dishonest as me measuring
Windows' security response time by measuring how long it takes to
get the fix from an OEM like Compaq instead of measuring how long
it takes to appear from Microsoft itself.
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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh look! A Linux virus!
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:23:27 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:9488js$d6i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <9469te$l63$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16168.html
>
> A quote from the above website:
>
> [irrelevant stuff deleted]
>
> Can anyone name a Windoze virus which kindly
> FIXES THE HOLE it came in through?
>
You shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition.
I think you mean, "Can anyone name a Windoze virus which kindly
FIXES THE HOLE through which, in it came? ;)
> It probably still sucks for the administrator who has
> to go in and permanently fix the problem that he should
> have been foresighted enough to fix IN THE FIRST PLACE,
> but at least the virus put a BIG RED FLAG on the
> security hole for the administrator!
>
> Windoze Virus: "HAHAHAHAHAHA! YOUR SYSTEM IS DEAD!
> EAT CRAP YOU SUCKERS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
>
> Linux Virus: "Sorry old chap, I've infected your
> system; here, let me help you *fix* the security
> hole I used to infect your system."
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Definition: Desktop, Workstation, Server.
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:24:21 -0000
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:17:13 GMT, Tom Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Bones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > In article <XjV86.428$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Wilson wrote:
[deletia]
>> If I were to segregate computers by role, I would pick stand-alone,
>> workstation and server as the categories. I attach nothing in terms of
>> expected reliability or user interface to any of these roles. They should
>> all by rock-solid reliable, and flexible enough to trim down unneeded
>junk
>> if extra power is needed for offering services.
>
>I still think workstation denotes a singular place on a network where
>applications are developed or executed. I guess it doesn't matter since you
I don't think it necessarily implies that the machine is
on a network but that merely the user or usage is well
known and understood. The user has a better understanding
of what their computing needs are and those needs are
often demanding.
>say either "dekstop" or "workstation" and cause the same mental image of a
>CPU box, display, and keyboard.
Same idea, different intent.
--
Section 8. The Congress shall have power...
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for
limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their
respective writings and discoveries;
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Dell system with Linux costs *more* than with Win2K
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:25:45 -0000
On 19 Jan 2001 03:16:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:08:23 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>Fl
>>>It's called supply and demand.
>
>> Yep.
>> Some asshole at Dell decided to build 1000 of these Linux boxes
>> because he figured Linux is big and people will want these boxes.
>
>>>Purchasers are WILLING TO PAY $64 more for Linux than Windows.
>
>> They couldn't find 50 people willing to purchase one, so they had to
>> raise the price to make up the loss.
>
>Interesting, where exactly did you get this information?
According to the news outlets, Dell's bottom line is actually
being bolstered by Linux server sales.
--
In general, Microsoft is in a position of EXTREME conflict of
interest being both primary supplier and primary competitor.
Their actions must be considered in that light. How some people
refuse to acknowledge this is confounding.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: 19 Jan 2001 18:27:25 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: - Import the video from firewire (usually 3:1 or 5:1 with good capture
: cards)
: - Load the video into Premiere or whatever app they're using for editing
: - Save raw video file for posterity.
: - Perform edits, insert audio, stills, etc
: - Save edits to video file
: - Resize video to internet video size (192x144)
Alarm bells went off when I read this. How long is this video that
it takes 2 GB at 192x144 size?? Does the video last all day?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:30:45 -0000
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:43:23 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:O1Q96.110652$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> If you have to reinstall Windows NT or 2000 more than a few times when
>> "something" goes wrong, you are an incompetent administrator.
>
>If he had to reinstall 2000 he is an incompetent administrator.
>
>Yes, if you have a problem, and don't want to learn how to fix it,
>reinstalling (over what you already have) is the most hassle-free option
>you've. There are other, better ways to do this.
This only overlooks the fact that Windows, even a a server product,
is marketed towards the people that don't want to put any effort
into debugging the system.
If Win2k requires the end user (or even admin) to become some sort
of guru, then it has failed as a product and you might as well just
run Unix or VMS.
--
The LGPL does infact tend to be used instead of the GPL in instances
where merely reusing a component, while not actually altering that
component, would be unecessarily burdensome to people seeking to
build their own works.
This dramatically alters the nature and usefulness of Free Software
in practice, contrary to the 'all viral all the time' fantasy the
anti-GPL cabal here would prefer one to believe.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Poor Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:32:49 GMT
On 19 Jan 2001 16:24:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>Creative does a half assed job on their drivers and then hides them in
>some obscure part of their site, then they release the source so that
>people who actually know what theyre doing can fix everything and its
>all LINUX's fault.
>
>Thats some fascinating logic youve got there.
Logic?
What logic?
All I want to do is to be able to use all the features of the
soundcard I paid for.
After 3 years I figured Creative would get it straight, I mean
considering they hired programmers to work on it.
http://www.soundblaster.com/support/faq/welcome.asp?faqtype=2&cat=1&id=134&page=3
Guess Linux wasn't too important to them seeing as they started on
these Linux drivers well before Win2k came out, but yet Win2k ships
with SBLive support built in already.
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I just can't help it!
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:32:33 -0500
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > when the monitor goes to power saving mode, it only consumes a couple
> > of watts...just enough to keep the tube warm so that "turning on" to
> > display again doesn't add yet another thermal-shock cycle.
>
> Really? Hmmm. It would depend on what energy saving mode the monitor
> was placed. For example, there's standby, suspend, and off.
And the difference between "standby" and "suspend" is ????
>
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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