Linux-Advocacy Digest #747, Volume #31 Fri, 26 Jan 01 17:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Comparison: Installing W2K and Linux 2.4 ("ono")
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance (Shane Phelps)
Re: All this Whistler stuff. (.)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: Poor Linux ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("ono")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("ono")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("ono")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Harlan Grove)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Vilmos Soti)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("ono")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Harlan Grove)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: Ramen worm/virus cracks NASA and others ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: All this Whistler stuff. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Wiegand)
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) (Paul Colquhoun)
Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
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From: "ono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Comparison: Installing W2K and Linux 2.4
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:21:51 +0100
> > I heard that they want to put the cd-burner into the os. It's about time
> > they do something about that. I had it with shoving out money for stupid
> > burner-software upgrades.
> > What I heard too ist that they want to charge money for IE6 (don't have
a
> > link). It makes almost sense to charge money for it as there is no more
> > competition (ns beeing almost as dead as a dodo and opera having 0% of
the
> > market).
>
> With all due respect, putting a CD-burner INTO the kernal is about the
> dumbest idea I've ever heard of...
Did I say that they put it into the kernel? You should know the difference
between the kernel and what you get on the CD.
If you don't, read Inside Windows NT (Microsoft Programming Series) from by
David A. Solomon (ISBN: 1572316772 ).
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From: Shane Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:32:13 +1100
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > > P.S.- sponsoring an independant benchmark does not necessarily
> > > taint the findings.
> >
> > Hint: "sponsored" and "independent" clash.
>
> Then you have no idea how the scientific world works. All studies
> are sponsored by someone, but it doesn't affect the outcome of
> the study.
>
Like the mobile phone research with statistically significant increases
in tumours in the experimental group which "prove that the radiation is
harmless"?
Sponsored by the carriers ;-)
Yeah, right.
Hint, you have to read the report, not just the conclusion.
BTW, our Communications Minister said (when pressed) that all it shows
is that experimental rats shouldn't talk too much on mobile phones.
> Just more Penguinista fud.
>
> -Chad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: All this Whistler stuff.
Date: 26 Jan 2001 20:35:08 GMT
Martigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> News articles around are claming this thing to be the greatest invention
> around. What I want know is if it is so great, an you can do so many things
> with it, why can't you customize it, i.e. the kernel? Cuz M$ don't want you
> to know! Plus is it is so great then why will there be a SR-1 about four
> months after it's release?
I would like to know exactly what it can do that MacX cannot.
I would like to know all about microsoft's "inventiveness" in
this case.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 20:36:29 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
> choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
Netherlands: all the freedom of norway with 1. half the taxes and
2. more to do.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 20:44:30 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Finally, as for US politics, better bland/boring politics and a diverse
> and vibrant society than the reverse.
I think we can all agree that what happened in florida during this past
election could be defined at the very least as a highly disorganized and
flawed state electoral system.
A scary thought is that florida may just be the mean in this circumstance.
Half the states may be worse than that.
Ah, but "its the system, and its the only one we've got; we have to live
with it", in the words of half a dozen bush-supporting senators in the
face of the less-than landslide (and real) victory.
Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the people
written down somewhere?
Bah, must notta been important.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Poor Linux
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:41:33 GMT
"John Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:%63c6.26043$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> And Kyle Jacobs spoke unto the masses...
> :"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :
> :> > No, it was distinctly "no comment" to your "MATCH.... jerkoff"
line...
> :> > Again, I have no comment as that making rude, personal and often
> :undeserving
> :> > comments about people on USENET is, cowardly, and wrong.
> :>
> :> loser.
> :
> :No comment.
>
> Erm..that is a comment Kyle :-).
Your right, but I could have said something much worse.
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From: "ono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:50:16 +0100
> So you didn't buy Visio because is was non-MS software? (Cutting off your
Not exactly. I just knew that there existed a product called visio, I just
didn't know it was that good. When ms bought it and integrated it into it's
office line I gave it a try and liked it immediately. What I like about
office is that all products fit nicely together, that you get cool and solid
installers and that they are a lot more stable then the competition (unless
you install crapy software on the same box). The reason I started to give
the ms-only pc a try was because of netscape 4.0.. (which really messed up
my machine!). After that I converted from NS to IE and from FrameMaker to
Word. (and I never looked back!).
> nose to spite your face!) And now that Microsoft bought Visio (and,
incidentally,
> making files edited in Visio 2000 unable to be read in Visio 5, those
> lock-in lunatics!), the software is magically copacetic?
Don't know the word 'copacetic' (and outlook express doesn't have a built in
translator). You should take it easy with me, English is not my first
language.
Btw: backward compatibility doesn't bother me because I'm running the latest
and greatest.
Btw2: I think they do a really good job at trying. I'd be happy my sw was
that much backward-compatible ;-).
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From: "ono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:54:03 +0100
> >C'mon, start thinking. These test are like when you put water into the
tank
> >of a car and measure how long it takes for the engine to die.
> >Why sould I protect my application in a release build from random data
when
> >the data is always generated on the same machine from the same programs?
> >You unix/linux people must be really desperate to prove fault in ms
software
> >to take such crap at face-value.
> >
> If your car was a firewall hackers would put 'water in the tank' all the
> time.
Cool one, but we're not talking firewalls here.
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From: "ono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:57:58 +0100
> Does anybody have the source code to the old crashme program? I'm sure it
> would crash w2k if it could be made to compile on it. I don't think any
> Unix OS at the time it was published survived. Some only lasted seconds.
> It ran as a user process by the way so didn't need any special privileges.
I'm interrested too. Would be fun to have something to compile into my apps
that is actually capable of crashing W2K.
btw: I actually crashed a few boxes but the I'm the one writing the kernel
drivers so everybody knew it was me ;-).
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:02:15 GMT
In article <94slbl$176$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>In <94si7f$7nq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>]In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>] Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>]...
>]>This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
>]>door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple
PCs,
>]>how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay
up
>]>and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
>
>]Don't believe in copyright, do you? The license is pretty clear.Don't
>]blame Microsoft for enforcing their legal rights. If you don't like
it,
>]don't use it. If you oppose copyrights in general, work for changes in
>]the law.
>
>And what do you do when the lawmakers are corrupt? Much of the
>copyright policy is being dictated by large corporations with the
>money to spend on political activity.
>Copyright was originally to protect the maker for the purpose of
>encouraging the creation of products. There is not evidence that it
>serves that purpose anymore in say software. The free software movement
>shows that much software is being created where the makers explicitly
>give up their control of copying. At present much copyright law is
>simply corporations demanding monopoly powers from supine governments.
>In the face of that civil disobedience is at least as effective
>as "work for changes" is.
I don't disagree as long as those practicing civil disobedience realize
that part of its effectiveness stems from accepting the _current_ legal
(as opposed to metaphysically just) consequences of such action. As
long as principled software pirates don't complain when they're caught
and fined, OK. Most, however, know they're breaking the license terms
but think it no worse than exceeding the speed limit when driving -
meaning that most know it's wrong but rationalize that it's acceptable
behavior.
As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
can be done, but it does take work.
The problem may be that software licenses and copyrights matter to 99%
of the readers of this newsgroup, who make up less than 0.0001% of the
world's population (with similar percentages for the US contingent).
Your average US citizen running Quicken and Math Blaster under Windows
98 just doesn't give a damn.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:14:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Jan 2001 20:06:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>Copyright was originally to protect the maker for the purpose of
>encouraging the creation of products.
This isn't quite true. Copytright and patents ( intellectual capital )
was meant to encourage a person to release his product in
exchange for control.
An example of this assume that you are a stell foundary.
You discover a way of smelting steel that is much cheap.
You get the patent, in exchange you must publish your result
and people using your process must get your permission.
If you forego releasing the information, then you risk
someone else discovering the same process and not having
to pay you anything ( in fact it may wind up that you
have to pay them ).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:15:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Jan 2001 18:56:19 GMT, Steve Mading
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The Linux kernel
>was started by a Finn who since then has moved to California,
>and today there are still a large number of US people involved,
>including "Maddog" Hall (unofficially the second in command after
>Linus, I would guess).
Don't forget the kernel was based on the Minix kernel written by
Tanenbaum. I believe he was American.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:15:47 GMT
Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
> choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
And what about Jon Johannsen (I hope I remembered his name correctly)
who wrote the DeCCS code?
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 21:15:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
> corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
> you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
> electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
> House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
> he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
> can be done, but it does take work.
Bullshit.
As has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt in the latest elections
in the united states, your vote DOES NOT COUNT.
Happy dreamworld,
=====.
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From: "ono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:07:02 +0100
> A guy here at work runs windows 3.1 on a PIII 700, it absolutely flies,
> the Wintel alliance has been really bad for PC's they should be by rights
> the most powerful things ever at the moment but they still lag badly even
> behind mainframes let alone these old sparc 20's we have here at work.
The boys at our place have a big HP box (~400mhz, 1Gig Ram >30'000 euro) for
doing VHDL synthesis. But since they got the NT version of the software they
all run it on no-name ( 500mhz, 256 Meg Ram < 1500 euro) intel pc's. Guess
why they do that? Yes you guessed right: more stable, a lot faster and even
the gui looks better.
Btw: The HP has an incredible uptime :-).
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:10:34 GMT
In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
...
>Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>people written down somewhere?
...
The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 21:25:51 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> ...
>>Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>>people written down somewhere?
> ...
> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
Ah, you dont have a very good understanding of what happened in florida.
You're one of those insane federalists who believes that his government
is incapable of doing any sort of wrong, arent you?
I'll bet you believe in god too, dontcha?
Thats very sweet.
> Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
elses, any time.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ramen worm/virus cracks NASA and others
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:33:53 -0600
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> J Sloan wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > I think Linux was considered abolutely secure by stupid people.
> >
> > No, you are 100% wrong here.
> >
> > Stupid people have not heard of any OS besides windows.
> >
> > jjs
>
> I am not 100% wrong. Linux is not absolutely secure. It is more secure
> than windows, but what does that mean?
> you have to be pretty damn braindead to think any system is secure,
> unless it is locked underground with no external network or power
> connection.
Strange, I don't know of any self-replicating worms in Windows.
Viruses like Melissa and such require user interaction in order to
propogate, RameN does it without any interaction at all.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: All this Whistler stuff.
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:34:59 -0600
"Martigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Vzkc6.29755$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> News articles around are claming this thing to be the greatest
invention
> around. What I want know is if it is so great, an you can do so many
things
> with it, why can't you customize it, i.e. the kernel? Cuz M$ don't want
you
> to know! Plus is it is so great then why will there be a SR-1 about four
> months after it's release?
What exactly would you like to customize in the kernel? Nearly any
parameter the kernel uses for tuning is accesible through the registry.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:41:46 -0600
"Steve Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> G'day
>
> I've been following developments closely on this.
>
> It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> to be registered....or it will cease to function.
No. Several key MS programs will require Activation, which is not the same
thing as registration.
Registration gives your name, address, etc.. basically the same thing as
those warranty cards. This puts you on mailing lists, etc..
Activation doesn't require you to give any information, other than a one way
hash code (similar to PGP public keys) generated from your hardware
configuration. They won't even ask your name (if you activate manually, if
you do it over the internet it's quite seamless).
> This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
You mean they should stop breaking the law? You guys are such hypocrites.
You bitch about how MS is a criminal organization and needs to be punished,
but when the law applies to you, suddenly it's unfair?
> In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
Every year? Where do you get this. This is not subscription licensing.
> It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
Sorry, Open Source was essentially created by RMS, an American who followed
his principles for something like 10+ years before Linus got on the
bandwagon. Why do you people like to think the US never invents anything?
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:45:08 -0600
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94spcu$pre$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
> > corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
> > you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
> > electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
> > House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
> > he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
> > can be done, but it does take work.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> As has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt in the latest elections
> in the united states, your vote DOES NOT COUNT.
>
> Happy dreamworld,
Your vote for president may not count, but your vote for congresspeople
does. Only the presidential election uses the electorate system.
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:12:24 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Withers wrote:
> It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
Waht about Mac, OS/2 or Be?
> Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> (European politics - outside Britain).
Much of "Linux" is GNU software written in the US.
Even Linus T. now lives in the US so the latest versions of the
Linux kernel are now from the US as well.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:47:38 GMT
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:09:17 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
|news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:34:36 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|wrote:
|> |
|> |"Johan Kullstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
|> |news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|>
|> <snipped>
|>
|> |> unix style filesystems with the inodes &c were also designed in the
|> |> 70s. however, it's not the age of the filesystem design. it's the
|> |> also competence of the design and the goal of the design. FAT was
|> |> made for floppies and tiny systems. unix filesystems were made for
|> |> hard drives and larger systems. it's still MS's fault for keeping
|> |> such a bad design as FAT and trying to keep it going where it doesn't
|> |> belong, but age is not the issue.
|> |
|> |It's interesting then, now that FAT has moved on, whereas ext2fs
|> |has not. (NOTE: I realize FAT sucks, I'm not trying to claim it's
|> |better than ext2fs, just more updated).
|>
|>
|> Read what Johan said.
|>
|> ext2 got it right the first time, FAT had to be updated 2 or 3
|> times in the intervening period.
|
|Like I said, FAT sucks. But, ext2 DIDN'T get it right the first
|time, they've had to update it, and now they're moving on
|to ext3 because of the failings of ext2.
When was ext2 updated? There were bugfixes, but no chnages in
format or functionality that I am aware of.
Are you sure you are not confusing the fact that ext2 is itself
an update/replacement for ext?
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:49:25 -0600
"Kevin Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch once wrote:
> >"Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:94qcc1$9qg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> : Yes, they do. But it seems that someone is DoSing all their DNS
> >servers, or
> >> : spoofing them, or something. This has always been a severe weakness
of
> >the
> >> : internet, and has accounted for many problems. I remember a while
back
> >> : someone hijacked Network Solutions DNS and was rerouting people to
his
> >own
> >> : site that were trying to go to NSI.
> >>
> >> If Microsoft would show even the slightest inclination to use its
> >> dominant position on the desktop for good, and to start building
> >> robust support for *standard-compliant* IPv6 and IPSec into its
> >> software, it could make a BIG contribution to solving this and many of
> >> today's other Internet security problems.
> >
> >Are you not aware that IPSec is built into Win2k?
> >
> >Also, MS provides complete source to it's IPv6 implementation at:
> >
> >http://research.microsoft.com/msripv6/
> >
>
> Just when you thought things were going to be stable.... along comes ipv6
>
> Come on guys Unix has had this installed by default for years.
Which Unix? The BSD's have had a beta version for quire some time, I don't
think it's quite considered "done yet". And saying "by default for years"
is a bit strong, since it was quite optional 2 years ago when I was uisng
FreeBSD commonly, though it is installed by default now.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:50:31 -0600
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:04:54 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >"Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:94qcc1$9qg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> : Yes, they do. But it seems that someone is DoSing all their DNS
> >servers, or
> >> : spoofing them, or something. This has always been a severe weakness
of
> >the
> >> : internet, and has accounted for many problems. I remember a while
back
> >> : someone hijacked Network Solutions DNS and was rerouting people to
his
> >own
> >> : site that were trying to go to NSI.
> >>
> >> If Microsoft would show even the slightest inclination to use its
> >> dominant position on the desktop for good, and to start building
> >> robust support for *standard-compliant* IPv6 and IPSec into its
> >> software, it could make a BIG contribution to solving this and many of
> >> today's other Internet security problems.
> >
> >Are you not aware that IPSec is built into Win2k?
>
> It is also specificially not intended for the general
> desktop market. Also, the fact that it is still a
> marginal platform (despite being from Microsoft) means
> that this is about as relevant as if Apple were doing it.
>
> >
> >Also, MS provides complete source to it's IPv6 implementation at:
>
> Then why didn't/couldn't you point to the WinME version,
> or better yet: the Win98 version?
Win98 and WinME are dead products, with no security.
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