Linux-Advocacy Digest #210, Volume #32 Thu, 15 Feb 01 12:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable? ("Todd")
Re: KDE Whiners (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: The Windows guy. ("Mike")
Re: I will give MS credit for one thing ("Todd")
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: I will give MS credit for one thing ("Todd")
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Interesting article (Dave Martel)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:32:06 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> In article <96d6ak$kng$04$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ralph Miguel Hansen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Bill gates deserves a house that burns to the ground every few days.
> >>
> >> THAT would be funny!
> >>
> > You monster. He gave us the wintrolls.
> >
>
> And for this, deserves to be locked in said house as it burns. <g>
EACH time!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:34:09 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > At this rate, AMD is going to eat Intel for breakfast.
> > :-))))))))
>
> Intel realizes they can't compete with AMD today, though they do have a new
> version of the PIII coming out later in the year which will take much better
> advantage of DDR and RDRAM, and when the "real" Pentium 4 (currently code
> named NorthWood) starts shipping later in the year, it will put AMD in quite
> a squeeze.
>
> When I say "real" pentium 4, I mean what the P4 was supposed to be. The P4
> was rushed out the door to compete with AMD and they disabled all the
> features that weren't finished yet, causing it to be the mess that it is.
> When the real one goes out the door, AMD should be shivering in their boots.
So, like, what you're saying is that you're a member of TWO cults?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:34:20 +0800
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > So you're a Microsoft *and* an Intel apologist?
> >
> > I like the Athlon, I just know that Intel is taking it's beating and
licking
> > it's wounds right now and WILL strike back hard.
> >
> > AMD managed to get a leg up on Intel because the current P3 architecture
> > didn't scale as well as they planned and had to abandon it earlier than
> > expected. They've been mobilizing for the coming war for the last year.
>
> It's not like AMD is stagnating; look at LDT (I guess they call it
> Hyper Transport now) and Sledgehammer (x86-64). If you believe the
> marketspeak, it will trounce the IA64 in running "legacy 32-bit code"
> while at the same time giving 64-bitianness (is that a word yet?) to
> developers.
I can't wait to see the Hammer family myself...
> > > What do you think about McDonald's? :)
> >
> > I like their french fries ;)
>
> Yeah, they are good.
... and chicken mcnuggets with sweet and sour sauce. the sauce is
important.
-Todd
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Whiners
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:36:16 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter Köhlmann"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Tim Hanson wrote:
> >> I would have said the European culture of ethnic cleansing.
> >
> > which is naturally a lot worse than, say, the KKK
>
> Fortunately they're largely ignored or ridiculed. Most are breeding
> themselves out of existance by marrying first cousins. Kind of like the
> European Royal Families only they live in trailers and seldom bathe.
Come to think of it...European Royal Families weren't known for
the best bathing habits, either.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:44:23 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Robert Surenko writes:
>>> It also takes faith to believe the Universe is as appears to the 5
>>> senses.
>> I don't.
> Well, there are issues of sanity involved here. Doubting the evidence of
> your own senses leaves you in a difficult position. Insanity is a
> probable outcome (although that is a sane response to the predicament).
Although I am frequently accused of insanity...
But really, although I don't nessesarily agree with it...
It can be argued that all truth, knowlege or belief be suspended.
Look at how radically different the view of what the Universe is has
changed in the last 100 years. Watch how a scientist can switch
rapidly between newtonian physics and quantium.
Every chemist I know will tell you that the Borh model is totally
false yet amazingly accurate. (Sorry about the spelling)
All without too much insanity.
>>> Because of this it also takes great faith to not believe ( or believe
>>> not) in God.
>> Nonsense.
>>> Science and logic are a religion.
>> More nonsense.
> Agreed. It is after all, very difficult to program a computer using
> religious beliefs as a basis for your programming. I tend to view that
> as evidence that scientific belief is qualitatively different, since
> believing in scientific principles like observation, no-interpretation,
> experiment, hypothesiis formation and refutation, does help you program
> a computer.
2 points. First, programming can be argued to be a religious belief.
All you must have faith in is that this machine will do the same thing
given the same input. Now I have faith that this is so, but how would
you prove that repeatability is a fact or a truth. It is convenient
but not proven.
I've heard many programers not believe this when they trash their
linux hard drive for the 10th time.
Secondly, re-read your last paragraph. You say that because it helps
you program, scientific belief is qualitatively different. Yes,
your faith has helped you in times of trouble, so has mine.
I've seen no evidence that Science is not a religion, only that
it's a more convienent religion when programming a computer.
> On the other hand, so does alcohol and coffee.
Agreed!
> Peter
--
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
=============================================================================
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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:49:35 GMT
"*Rotten_168*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > He is working on a Linux web server. He wants to do a global replace
in
> > VI. I
> > > tell him to use sed. He whines a bit, then tries it. I hear from his
cube.
> > > "Sweet!"
> >
> > Are you not aware that sed is available for NT?
>
> yeah but DOS doesn't have command completion and running more than one
> job concurrently. Also DOS doesn't have piping or redirection, or useful
> logical operators (&& is the one I'm thinking of), or the ability to
> easily run/write scripts. And if I'm wrong and it does have those
> features then Microsoft does nothing to educate it's users on how to
> take advantage of those features.
Win2k has really nice command line completion. It also has piping, and
redirection, including >& for stderr. As far as I can remember DOS has
always had stdin and stdout redirection. My Win2k command line supports both
|| and &&.
Documentation is where you'd expect: in the help files. It's also available
from Microsoft's web site:
http://windows.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/professional/help/ . Look under
"Conditional Processing" for || and &&.
But, from the rest of your post it looks to me like you're running Win98. If
that's the case, you may find much of this functionality missing. You could
check out Cygnus - I think their tools distribution includes tcsh and ksh.
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I will give MS credit for one thing
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:51:28 +0800
"pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Todd wrote:
> >
> > "pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Well, let me say that I agree with OP - Windows media
> > > player _is_ a nice piece of software - reliable, simple
> > > and usable. It is very - how can I phrase - Un-M$like.
> > > Credit to them.
> >
> > Agree. What do you think about NetMeeting and MSN messenger? I think
MSN
> > messenger is a nice piece of work (not as many features as ICQ). Also,
> > NetMeeting is very useful at work. Both of those apps. are *very* nice
> > under Windows 2000. Not sure about under 9x.
>
> I hate MSN messenger - it starts up without my permission and I can't
> find the registry entry.
If using 2000... here is where you find that stuff...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
Also, check out a utility called 'started' - start editor. It allows you to
edit *every* place anything could possibly start up under Windows 2000... I
believe I got this from either cnet.com or www.sysinternals.com.
> I already have icq, so I hate the way this
> is thrust on me when I don't want it.
Well, they should have given an option to make it autostart, true.
> Netmeeting is OK, there should be a better way of finding people than
> the current directory service.
>
> I tried a linux version of icq, but it was crap. Can't remember which
> one - but when I get my adsl connection working under Linux I'll either
> have to find another or fix up the code to be not crap as I love ICQ
> (yes I know about the protocol's problems and security flaws). My
> friends
> only use ICQ so somehow I must find a compatible program. I don't relish
> the fixing up the code - because I had a quick look at it and it looked
> like
> a bit of a hack - so maybe difficult to fix without breaking other
> things :-(
> [snip]
> > I didn't say the code was 'bad', I said it looks like a hack. Check the
> > source yourself... it is amazing the thing *starts*.
>
> I have in fact.
> It seems OK to me - clear, concise and to the point.
> Comments are valid (most of the time).
> Interfaces are clear.
>
> Would you beg to differ?
Yes :)
However, given that I have never seen any Win32 kernel code (except for MS
drivers), I don't have much to compare it with... MS stuff seems damn well
coded (at least what I have seen).
It ain't perfect, but I thought it the structure was better than the Linux
source code that I have looked at.
Given that Linux is free, and it is stable for the most part, it must be a
testiment to the code... it just didn't *look* good.
> > BTW, Linux *has* crashed on me or forced me to reboot... either way,
that is
> > undesirable.
>
> Linux has _never_ crashed on me. Maybe I am lucky.
You don't run Netscape? :)
> X has frozen many times - but I am able to telnet in and
> restart it even if it locks up. [deleted little mini-rant
> about X]
>
> > I use HP-UX at work, and that is a *ton* more reliable than Linux if you
> > want to compare Unixen.
>
> Never used HP-UX. You may be enjoying Gnome soon then :-)
IE is also available for HP-UX. HP-UX is *very* stable.
> > >
> > > ...fair challenge...
> >
> > Yah... I've heard this cry from anti-MS advocates from a long while with
no
> > proof... then they come up with APIs from some *book*... WELL, then it
is
> > DOCUMENTED.
> >
> > Heh.
> >
> > Anyway, MS does acknowledge there *are* undocumented calls in Windows,
but
> > they are undocumented so developers DO NOT USE them as they MAY CHANGE
> > without notice.
>
> undocumented API's are just plain bad news.
That's probably why the manufacturer doesn't like to 'document' them :)
>
> > All OSes developed centrally have those.
>
> They shouldn't
You may be right... but those developers are always thinking of the future,
and it is likely that there exists future APIs or hooks... some of the
undocumented stuff is indeed documented (in MSDN), but again, the maker
suggests against actually using them (even though it is possible).
> [snip]
> > > why am I agreeing with you?
> > > Yes - media is WHAT LINUX should kick arse at.
> >
> > You are right... it should. What Linux needs is a DirectX - an API that
> > covers *all* types of media.
>
> Direct X is a bit cobbled together, but has improved a lot - you
> are right that it is a __lot easier__ than anything under Linux.
DX 8 has come a long way since DX 3.0 when D3D was a mess... it is so easy
to program for it is actually *fun* now... more so than OpenGL with regards
to 3D programming. DirectSound ROCKS when taken full advantage of, and
works for every sound card... very nice.
I would LOVE to see Linux get DX... that would be a great MS contribution.
(And keep the drivers as close as possible too so that 3rd parties can
easily create them).
> BUT: I thought that there was a project to produce such a framework?
> (the name slips my mind)
If MS were behind it...
> > Since it is quite fully documented, some Linux guru should start porting
the
> > basic DX calls - would be a boon if you were a developer to target Linux
as
> > well as Win32/DX for games and media!
>
> For me cross-platform source compatibility is a _really- big deal.
> I am currently looking at QT because of this.
If you aren't using multi-media, is Java a good choice then? Seems that
Java runs on most platforms these days, and it has matured fairly nicely.
Since I don't need to do cross platform stuff, I mostly write in Win32 or
back-end Javascript (now possible as it is one of W2k's native scripting
languages - very nice).
> [snip]
> > Heh. How do you feel about Solaris / FreeBSD / HP-UX?
>
> Well I have the attitude that you should use whichever OS
> fits your needs for a particular application. I don't really
> have any opinions on these to be quite frank: I only understand
> Linux and win32. I have only _used_ Solaris and have no real interest
> in using it. From the source code point of view it is good to contrast
> how say BSD does things with how Linux does things. The problem is
> there is _so_ much code in any system that this is really hard to easily
> do unless you are _really_ into it and not just toying with a few
> changes as I am. Documentation is usually crap. This is bad.
The stuff that I do at work does not involve mega-huge databases or
systems... usually involves less than a hundred gigabytes of data. Windows
2000 + SQL Server + ASP + ADO + COM usually fits the bill all of the time.
Then their is the huge multitude of off-the-shelf stuff...
Where MS gets you is in the licensing... if I were going to try and make
money with Linux, it would be to make it the best file/print server for
Windows clients... and provide full comprehensive
administration/operations/maintainence for the buyer.
A few hundred CALs can really set a company back - something that could be
avoided entirely using Linux - yet there are almost no companies that
provide a *full* and comprehensive service such as what I am talking about.
Lots of opportunities.
-Todd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:54:43 GMT
Edward Rosten writes:
>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>>>> Tholen, David
>>>>> 1505 Alexander St,
>>>>> Honolulu, HI 96822-4978
>>>>> (808)941-3552
>>>>>
>>>>> Tholen, David Alexander St Apt 406, Honolulu, HI
>>>>> 96822
>>>> Of what relevance is that, Kulkis?
>>> Is this correct (even if it is not relavent)?
>> What difference would it make?
> To what?
More like "to whom", given that you're the one asking the question.
Or do you consider yourself a "what"?
>> My question is about the relevance, not
> So?
Precisely. What difference would it make?
>> the correctness. I could also ask about the redundancy.
> Is it correct (relavence aside)?
What difference would it make?
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I will give MS credit for one thing
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:55:35 +0800
"pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Todd wrote:
> > [snip]
> > I know Linux users don't think much of IE, but this is because they
can't
> > run it. If they could, they would see that it ROCKS over Netscape any
day.
> > I have found that IE crashes *a lot* under 9x, but extremely rarely
under
> > w2k - in fact, it doesn't crash on me at all under w2k.
>
> Well, I run Win98SE and can say that it is as crap as netscape.
> Of course the Linux version of netscape is worse. If you are
> looking for examples of hacked code.... I give you Netscrape.
Heh... it actually isn't *that* bad under W2k... but it isn't just stability
where Netscape sucks, it is also in the CSS and DHTML standards (or lack of
them).
I found it frustrating that they didn't follow W3C standards as IE and Opera
did... apparently Netscape 6.x fixes that, but *that* is buggy.
> I wonder why it should be more stable under win2k? I assume
> that it uses the same components?
I believe so... not sure why. Under 9x, IE really sucks horribly. Under
W2k, it shines. I think the 9x architecture is just plain ugly.
> > > Yea games, you know, toys.
> >
> > Yea, you know, the multi billion dollar industry.
>
> You are right - games a VERY big - the third
> largest Japanese export last time I looked - and that
> is pretty amazing!
Yup... I wonder how XBOX will do...
-Todd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:56:34 GMT
Aaron Kulkis writes:
>>>> Tom Wilson writes:
>>>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>>>>>> Thanks for proving my point, donkey raper.
>>>>>> Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical argument.
>>>>> Somebody stomp on the floor...Tholen's needle is skipping again!
>>>> Illogical; I'm simply responding to Kulkis' multiple instances of
>>>> invective. Perhaps you should investigate why Kulkis' "needle is
>>>> skipping again".
>>> I'm amusing
>> On what basis do you make that ridiculous claim?
> You are sooooooo blind.
I see that you didn't answer my question. No surprise there.
>>> You're not
>> You're erroneously presupposing that I'm trying to be amusing, Kulkis.
> In fact, you are highly annoying.
How ironic, coming from the person spewing invective.
>>> Hope that helps, oxygen thief.
>> Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical argument.
> Just a statement of fact,
On what basis do you call it a "fact", Kulkis?
> donkey-raper.
Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical argument.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:58:16 GMT
Aaron Kulkis writes:
>>>> chrisv writes:
>>>>>>> Sheesh, can't you morons trim your posts?
>>>>>> Who are the alleged morons here?
>>>>> You and Kulkis.
>>>> On what basis do you include me? Note that I *have* been trimming
>>>> away Kulkis' ridiculous .sig.
>>> If a thing does the job which it is designed to do, and does it
>>> well, then you must be using a definition of ridiculous which
>>> differs from the rest of the world.
>> The key word here is "if". Please demonstrate that it does either.
> It has successfully reduced garbage responses by those mentioned
> within by approx. 98%....which is what it was designed to do.
You're presupposing that the .sig is responsible. Prove that it's
not something else.
> Is any of this getting through to you, oxygen thief.
How ironic, coming from the person who hasn't been comprehending
things.
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:58:23 -0700
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:10:15 GMT, "Chad Myers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Mike Byrns wrote:
>>
>> > Such weighty content Aaron ;-) UNIX doesn't really "develop".
>>
>> What is this I've been imagining the last 8 years then?
>>
>> The Unix systems I've used - Linux, Solaris, BSD - keep
>> gaining new features and refinements, and contrary to the
>> assertions of the misinformed, are still alive and well.
>>
>> > It's an old
>> > picture from the 60s that was done developing long ago.
>>
>> Sounds like you've sat through one too many windows pep
>> rallies there bubba -
>
>No, really, what has changed dramatically in Unix in the
>last 10 years?
>
>We still use telnet
>We still use crappy old XWindows
You know, guys, I think we're all being had. Have you ever carried on
a conversation with that ELIZA program that pretends to be a
psychologist? Well, Chad kind of reminds me of that. I think we've all
been suckered in by someone's AUI* experiment.
*AUI= Artificial Un-Intelligence
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