Linux-Advocacy Digest #228, Volume #32 Fri, 16 Feb 01 02:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Joke of the day - from Microsoft (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Interesting article (J Sloan)
Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control) ("Flacco")
Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control) ("Flacco")
Re: .NET is plain .NUTS (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Interesting article ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: User Interfaces in the world of Linux... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: The Windows guy. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control) ("Flacco")
Re: Joke of the day - from Microsoft (Tim Hanson)
Re: The Windows guy. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: The Windows guy. ("Mike")
Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux ("Flacco")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Joke of the day - from Microsoft
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 05:53:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mlw wrote:
>Lloyd Llewellyn wrote:
>>
>> > ``Free software is evil'' sez Microsoft.
>> >
>> > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4833927.html?tag=mn_hd
>>
>> Excuse me, is there anyone out there who thinks this is *funny*?
>>
>> Microsoft trying to get the government to view open source software as a
>> threat the the American way?
>>
>> Gee, I just can't stop laughing.
>
>If I thought for a moment that our elected officials would let something as
>important as common sense keep them from accepting "educational" contributions
>from Microsoft, I would allow myself to laugh.
>
>Unfortunately, GW (idiot son of a bad president) proves that our entire system
>is for sale. Fix a few elections, buy a few people, appoint Ashcroft, it is a
>sad period in my counties history. I think we have hit rock bottom,
>unfortunately, they are looking for shovels.
>
>--
>http://www.mohawksoft.com
YIP! I can see Bush is going to be a one term president now.
And REPUBLICAN'S will always wonder why...
We certainly couldn't say that Bush's election was a clear
majority vote nor landslide.
What I'm puzzled about is if he did come to Microsoft's aide
and say banned OPEN SOURCE thru some political action somehow,
he obviously doesn't give a shit if he's re-elected anyway.
His ability to get legislation to accomplish this task
would result in ZERO fruit. It has nothing to do with
jacking the price of oil up so GAS is $1.50 at the pumps?
Why would he risk his second term and even give a remote
shit about Microsoft?
If he does come to Microsoft's aide, then he must be
the most suicidal bastard since Adolf Hitler.
--
Charlie
**DEBIAN** **GNU**
/ / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
/ /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
/_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
http://www.debian.org
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 05:55:14 GMT
Chad Myers wrote:
> No, really, I want to know.
>
> When it's good for Linux, Linux is Unix. When it's bad for Linux,
> Linux isn't Unix.
>
> I wish you guys would make up your mind and stick to something,
> because it really just makes you look like idiots. But then,
> we always knew that, I guess.
You, sir, are a nuisance.
I have no desire to reward your nasty, vindictive
tirades with an answer -
jjs
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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:51:45 -0500
> The more likely reality is that many home systems are running whatever
> software they could copy from work - when MS makes this impossible and
> users face the choice of wasting hard-earned cash on extra copies of MS
> office for home or switching to Linux what will they do?
MS is not that stupid. They will keep the initial price of XP very low so
that the path of least resistance is to just to get out the credit card.
Once they have everyone on the hook, *then* they'll start to reel them in.
Guaranteed they'll use their monstrous pile of cash to subsidize XP as a
money-loser until everyone is on the hook.
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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:52:39 -0500
> The last time I brought this up I got my ass reamed, but here goes...
> There has to be a simpler, dumbed down Windows-like GUI system for these
> people or it ain't gonna happen.
Yep. It makes me sad that the illuminati can bitch and moan about MS but
can't do something this simple to do something about it.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.windows.advocacy,comp.os.windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: .NET is plain .NUTS
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:13:51 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> Okay boys and girls.
>
> We all have employers. Even if you own your own business you have employers.
>
> And from my own experience working in the world of Windows, producing code
> for even the LARGEST of multi billion dollar companies, I'm ashamed to
> say that they *ALL* cheat.
>
> They *ALL* take one copy of NT and install it across 50 machines or more.
> They *ALL* take one copy of Word and install it across 50 machines or more.
>
> 30% of which I've noticed do it deliberately!
>
> The other 70% attempt to keep records but the fucking employee's go out
> there on their own and install all kinds of unauthorized software anyway.
>
> If your going to play the Windows game legally, you have to buy the license.
>
> I feel the *REASON* why Windows is still the most preferred desktop is
> because the *EMPLOYERS* are treating Windows like it were shareware
> or even GPL'd Linux. I even remember one company who loaned *THEIR* copy
> of NT to a customer just so they could get NT installed to use *OUR*
> application!
>
> CRAP!
>
> There is *NOBODY.COM* who has a competant license management program.
> And as I've already indicated, 30% of the business community has reputations
> concerning licensing which are indeed lower than snakes piss.
>
> .NET is Microsoft's answer to a two part question.
>
> #1. It eliminates the use of unauthorized, unlicensed software completely.
> #2. It eliminates the effect of a court ordered breakup by ensuring
> that *ALL* Windows software, whether written by Microsoft or another
> company, WILL BE NET ENABLED AND AUTHORIZED!!!!
>
> It is *MY* humble opinion, knowing the fine group of REPUBLICAN CITIZENS
> who own some of these billion dollar companies, that they have just fucked
> themselves in the ass. Whether they realized this or intended this, they
> have fucked themselves in the ass.
>
> And my 2005 prediction for Linux world domination is still on.
>
> I predict that once these kind, humble, REPUBLICAN tin cans, find out they
> actually *HAVE* to *PAY* for their use of Windows for a change, they will
> abandon it in droves.
>
> Clearly,
> Just the idea of having Microsoft catalogue all your corporate or
> home use software is similar to telling these people they can't
> have prayer in schools. It's like telling them they have to
> register all their guns. It's even more disasterous than
> telling them they have to accept flag burnings.
>
> This is the way REPUBLICANS take care of business.
>
> Instead of holding Microsofts hand and walking them thru these difficult
> time's of court battles and threatened breakup, they will leave Microsoft
> the same way they leave grandma's house after Thanksgiving dinner. With
> a final insult, a passing of the gas and a car door slam they will drive
> off into the sunset on their way to their next free meal.
>
> MICROSOFT!
> .NET It's where *THEY* want you to be.
>
> REPUBLICANS!
> .RIP It's where *THEY'LL* will be going!
>
> This .NET thing is the *WORSE* case of REPUBLICANS attempting to fuck
> REPUBLICANS I've ever seen in my life.
>
> And REST ASSURED, if you're the corporate manager who's just set your
> company a course on Microsoft's path, REPUBLICANS will blame you for
> this disaster and they will *FIRE* you.
>
> *BANK* on it junior.
Damn straight!
>
> --
> Charlie
>
> **DEBIAN** **GNU**
> / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
> / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
> /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
> http://www.debian.org
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:15:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 15 Feb
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>> T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> >Said Mike Byrns in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:08:10
>>>> > [...]
>>>> >>Perhaps they, not you, define legality? I don't think that the USGov is
>>>> >>"scared" in any way. Triffled yes.
>>>> >
>>>> >Parsing error:Microsoft is the scared one.
>>>> >
>>>> Excuse my butting in here but what is "Triffled" ?
>>>
>>>very very mildly effected.
>>>
>> Thanks.
>
>Trifled?
>
That is what I thought of too but I asked because I thought perhaps
it was slang which I had never heard before.
When Aaron came back with what I thought of first I realized that
mike.burns is a member of the generation which acts as though how a
word is spelled is not as important at it "lookin write". ;)
--
How much do we need to pay you to�'&ew Netscape?
- BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: User Interfaces in the world of Linux...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:15:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 13 Feb
>2001 01:50:37 +0100;
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> To each his own, that's why X windows leaves the
>>> choice up to you - I prefer focus follows mouse and
>>> autoraise, I hate having to explicitly click on a window
>>> to make it active.
>>
>>I presume you are referring to Microsoft Windows here. If you use
>>focus follows mouse or sloppy focus under X you don't have to
>>raise a window to make it active. Personally I hate autoraise
>>but that is just my opinion. At least we have the choice as usual.
>
>If you have focus follows mouse on, but autoraise off, does clicking on
>the window raise the window?
>
It just did on my desktop.
If you move the mouse into a window and do not click the window gets
keyboard input but stays behind.
--
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
- BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:15:02 GMT
In article <96i0us$d7o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Demonizing another organization doesn't really help, I'm afraid. IBM
>: doesn't monopolize consumer OSes.
>
>Well, not recently anyway. Their past monopolizations are
>singlehandedly responsible for EBCDIC and COBOL lasting much
>longer than they had any right to as viable choices.
>
EBCDIC maybe, not COBOL. Computer languages have tremendous
longevity if they meet the needs of even a small fraction of the
populace.
LISP and BASIC are still with us after years of being derided by
Computer Scientists.
Businesses do not like to "throw it away and write a better one" if
what they already have can be tweaked to keep producing.
That is going to be a major conflict with the Open Source
philosophy.
--
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
- BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:15:06 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Robert Nicholson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : It must be so great to be Linus and go to bed at night and know all the
> : time that Microsoft are getting more scared by the day. That would be my
> : Ego wonders of good.
>
> Maybe Microsoft execs should start taking Paxil and benzos and chill. Won't be
> too long when the rats start abandoning ship. The GNU copyleft could end up
> being the ultimate computer virus, a virus that crashes Microsoft itself.
>
Ironically, GPL only harms systems that it DOESN'T run on...
hehehehehe
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:16:27 -0500
Nigel wrote:
>
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > > The buffer size is only important if your system can not respond to
> > > interrupts quickly enough. RAM is expensive, so for all these CDRs with
> > > huge buffers, just so Windows can burn a CD, we users of real operating
> > > systems have to pay the bill for your crappy OS.
> >
> > Not true. I have a P133 and can happily burn CDs at 8x (under Linux, of
> > course). I probably wouldn't be able to do much reliably without burning
> > coasters if the CD-RW didn't have a reasonable buffer. But, I'll admit
> > that this is an unusual case.
> >
>
> Wow, I'm impressed - the machine we use at work is a Cyrix P166 ( actually
> it's really an overclocked P133 - may reduce it back soon as it's recently
> started intermittently locking up being overclocked for over 2 years) with
Check your fans, especially your CPU fan.
Replace as needed and/or install additional fans.
> HP 7000 series 2x speed IDE burner. Buffer never drops below 89% full for
> local writes and 65% full for burns over network ( only drops below 89% if
> other workstations cause high-ish network traffic during burn).
>
> Our original burner was a large external philips 2x speed SCSI with 256k
> buffer and on it's original PC ( 386DX33 with 4mb ram) under DOS the buffer
> rarely dropped below 50% full. Same burner under win9x or NT on a P90
> buffer stays around 5 to 10% full during burn and often buffer under-runs
> yet under linux on same PC buffer rarely drops below the same 89% fill
> value I get with more modern burner.
>
> Out of curiosity, this old burner still works after roughly 8 years use yet
> it's replacement (a ricoh 1420) only lasted 2 years - the HP has also
> lasted over 2 years so far (apart from needing to be taken apart to have
> laser cleaned) so maybe there is some truth in the saying that 'they don't
> make things like they used to'
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:02:38 -0500
> Linux has to be offered pre-installed together with all the extras the
> average newbie expects when buying their first computer, printer, scanner,
> webcam, internet access, all set up and ready to run.
Yes - on the business side too.
I made a note to myself before I went to bed last night. It said "Instant
Linux Office". The idea is to provide a distro that lets even the most
intellectually challenged to set up a Linux-based network for a small to
medium-sized office.
A product like this would contain at minimum:
- A preconfigured Linux server
- A bootable client CD-ROM
Optional components:
- Any number of workstations
- Ethernet hub and cabling
- Router to Internet connection (DSL, Cable, whatever)
- Peripherals like network printer, scanner, etc.
- Separate web server (recommended)
The install would go like this:
1 - Big colorful diagrams show the user how to set up the hardware
(basically connect everything to the hub, peripherals to the server).
2 - Boot up the server, which presents a business setup screen: Business
name, address, root password, user names, etc. The server sets itself up
using this info. Server contains all the productivity apps a typical office
needs.
3 - Each workstation is set up using the CD-ROM, which contacts the server
upon boot and automatically sets up the workstation, downloading the
configuration from the server, including print servers, links to
applications, etc.
Just a thought. Maybe something like this already exists in the Linux
world?
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Joke of the day - from Microsoft
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:17:19 GMT
Gee, if we hate him so much, let's just tell him!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote:
>
> Joke of the day:
>
> ``Free software is evil'' sez Microsoft.
>
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4833927.html?tag=mn_hd
>
> Some choice quotes:
>
> ``Companies that use Linux in their products then must pay someone else
> for support, {Allchin} said''
>
> (In this context, ``someone else'' apparently means somebody other than
> Microsoft.)
>
> ``"We can build a better product than Linux," {Allchin} said.
>
> (Note: No date was given for when, if ever, such a product might actually
> be developed and/or sold by Microsoft.)
--
Brontosaurus Principle:
Organizations can grow faster than their brains can manage them
in relation to their environment and to their own physiology: when
this occurs, they are an endangered species.
-- Thomas K. Connellan
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:18:25 -0500
Nigel wrote:
>
> Mike wrote:
>
> >
> > "Nigel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:eJCi6.2046$uY2.42094@news2-hme0...
> > >
> > > > REAL soft links
> > > > REAL memory protected multi-tasking
> > > > REAL pipes
> > > > REAL multi-user capabilities
> > > > REAL remote usage
> > > >
> > >
> > > Wow - didn't think of all of these. Bet the windows clones of unix tools
> > > can't use the output of one command as commandline parameters for next
> > > command.
> >
> > Huh? xargs works fine on my W2k machine. Were you thinking of something
> > else?
> >
> > The stuff Aaron mentioned is more realistic. The NTFS file system supports
> > links, but not in a way that most Unix users would find useful. I'm not
> > sure what he means by "memory protected" multi-tasking, but I suspect he's
> > referring to Win95/98, not NT/2k. Pipes have been supported for years in
> > DOS - I'm not sure when they were first implemented, but I'm sure I
> > remember using pipes in DOS 2.0. Pipes are a pretty simple construct, so
> > it's hard to think of why they wouldn't be supported (is there some other
> > pipe, Aaron?). My Win2k box supports multiple users (but those familiar
> > with W2k will realize that "multiple" means 2). As far as remote usage
> > goes, that's the one point I'd acknowledge straight away, but it's not one
> > that I find that I miss.
> >
>
> DOS (and windows console) can pipe the output of one command into the next
> (e.g. 'DIR |more' which pipes the output of DIR into the 'more' command)
> but unix can also pipe the output of one command into the commandline
> arguments of the next command - e.g. piping the output of the find command
> into the commandline arguments of the del command to delete all files with
> specified name anywhere on filesystem.
actually
find [some specification] -exec rm \{\} \;
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Works just as well.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:22:30 GMT
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:96dg8p$9hj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > He is working on a Linux web server. He wants to do a global replace in
> > VI. I tell him to use sed. He whines a bit, then tries it. I hear from
>
> The syntax is the same in vi and sed. IN vi, alll you need to do is
> prepend a % or a 1,$ to the command.
As long as something only occurs a maximum of once on each line, eh?
I think you have a point, though, unless Mark's friend is taking advantage
of more than just a global search and replace capability. The thing is, I
know Mark knows how to do a global replace in vi, so I'm reasonably sure
that he's doing something with sed that would be relatively painful in vi.
Relative is a strange term here, though, since I have always found sed to be
more painful than almost anything. Except maybe vi.
-- Mike --
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:24:07 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : Electrified rail. We really should get cargo transport OFF of the
> : interstates and back onto heavy rail. Use piggy-back or containers,
> : and then do quick-pickups/drop-offs at the rail terminals.
>
> Definitely would save energy and is badly needed. Now, another transportation
> issue is that commute to work. Commuting is the No. 1 most energy-intensive
> economic activity ever invented. And of course most Yanks will be hard to
> drag out of their cars. Worse, the suburbs are diffuse enough that setting up
> transit is a real bitch.
Get the heavy trucks off of the interstates, and congestion will
easy pretty quickly:
1) Roadbeds last a LOT longer.
The 'John C Lodge' highway in Detroit (Michigan-10) goes right through
the heart of Detroit...but doesn't connect any major industrial
centers, so truck traffic stays off of it....
The road is in perfect condition, and hasn't even been resurfaced since
the late 1960's.
Meanwhile, all of the Interstate hiways, and other streets that
carry heavy truck traffic...need resurfacing ever 5 years, and
total foundation-level re-builds every 15-20.
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:11:39 -0500
> The market will speak on this. MS can't force people.
...unless they manage to outlaw open source software.
MS has never seemed so repellent to me as they do now.
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