Linux-Advocacy Digest #357, Volume #32 Tue, 20 Feb 01 19:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] (Paul Colquhoun)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: The Windows guy. (Mig)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (John Jensen)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Joshua Hesse)
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (John Rudd)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS seeks Gov't help to stop blacks from using computersRe: Microsoft (Donovan
Rebbechi)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:13:27 GMT
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:00:55 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|"Stephen Cornell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
|news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|>
|> > So far, no one has refuted my claims (which were basically that SSH
|> > isn't secure and there are several exploitable vulnerabilities which
|> > exist on a large number of installed SSH hosts).
|>
|> No, you're wrong. People have responded by posting information about
|> the vulnerabilities which have been found, which are (i) patchable
|> bugs and (ii) flaws in the SSH protocol 1.
|
|But:
|1.) SSH does have flaws which are still present in a large number of
| installations. So SSH isn't really all that great
Windows NT/2K & IIS have flaws that are still present in a large number of
installations.
I'm glad that you agree that this means they arn't really that great.
|2.) The vast majority of SSH installations are with SSH 1 which is
| "fundamentally flawed" according to the SSH people themselves.
The vast majority of IIS sites run on Windows NT, which is fundamentally
flawed (as admitted recently by Microsoft).
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-
xenaphobia: The fear of being beaten to a pulp by
a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:06:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Surenko wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >>> On 16 Feb 2001 23:36:41 GMT, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>>
>>
>> I agree, however, you are using deductive reasoning to gain insight,
>> not the Scientific Method.
> a distinction without a difference, in this case.
A huge difference if you are trying to understand the nature of
knowlege.
Many people here are saying that the only way you can "know" something
is by using the Scientific Method.
I'm saying poppycock.
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> - Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> - http://www.fred.net/surenko/
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
--
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
=============================================================================
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From: Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:02:13 +0100
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> >Conversely, GM has Unix systems with 150 installed apps...and there's
> >not even the slightest question if adding another one will impact
> >stability.
> >
> >Because in a well-designed system, crashing apps don't harm the OS.
>
> Then why does forking child processes ad infinitum bring Linux to its
> knees (assuming no limits)?
>
> Then why does loading a 130MByte text file into the Advanced Text Editor
> make Linux go into massive paging?
Lets make things clear here Pete. You and I are the two only people that
got that problem... Of those particapating in the discussion we are the
only two using Mandrake 7.2. Since nobody else got the same problem it
looks like the problem is solely with Mandrake.
(I have found similar example code to [for (;;;) malloc(1)] that indicates
that Linux indeed has a problem with memory allocation and the kernels
handling of it)
--
Cheers
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:07:13 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:48:23 +0000, Donal K. Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >ZnU wrote:
> >> The BSD license, in contrast, is more like "I wrote this, and if you
> >> find it useful, you can use it under whatever conditions you like." To
> >> me, this just seems closer to the ideal that many GPL supporters claim
> >> to advocate when they talk about the "gift culture." I like my gifts
> >> without lots of strings attached, thanks.
> >
> >The only real string attached to the BSD license is the one saying that
> >you can't claim that you wrote something written by someone else.
> >
> >But honest people would uphold that anyway. (And gift culture really
> >does work; the more you give away, the better regarded and respected you
> >are, and consequently the better you can do for yourself. What goes
> >around, comes around...)
>
> Rules are never put in place for the people that would
> not need them to begin with...
Which is precisely why firearms abolition laws are always dangerous
to the law-abiding public.
>
> [deletia]
> --
>
> In general, Microsoft is in a position of EXTREME conflict of
> interest being both primary supplier and primary competitor.
> Their actions must be considered in that light. How some people
> refuse to acknowledge this is confounding.
> |||
> / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: John Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 20 Feb 2001 23:08:01 GMT
Ziya Oz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: This none sense about the code not being "free" unless protected by GPL is
: just that: none sense. I give the code away free. If somebody incorporates
: it into a proprietary app later, so what? That's their business. My code is
: still free out there, for anyone to use.
How do you give it away?
Do you put any notice on it, or is it more or less raw code?
John
--
33� 38' 49N 117� 56' 34W
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:09:36 -0500
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > John Rudd wrote:
> > >
> > > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John Rudd wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jonathan Hendry wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > What I like about the GPL is it keeps people honest....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No it doesn't. The legions of /.ers who will whinge and bitch
> > > > > > and complain and DDOS your site keep people honest.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like the digital age equiv. of Mao's comment about that
> > > > > which issues forth from the barrel of a gun. (That was Mao,
> > > > > wasn't it?)
> > > >
> > > > close. "Political power comes from the barrel of a gun"
> > > > --Mao Ze Dong
> > > >
> > >
> > > Right, I said "sounds like". I heard it as "Power is that which
> > > issues forth from the barrel of a gun."
> > >
> > > The 'Net equivilent might be: Software Freedom is protected by that
> > > which issues forth from a DDOS.
> > >
> > > > -- Aaron R. Kulkis Unix Systems Engineer DNRC Minister of all I
> > > > survey ICQ # 3056642
> > > >
> > > [long .sig trimmed]
> > >
> > > Dude, ever heard of netiquette? :-) no more than 4-6 lines,
> > > please. :-)
> >
> > Dude, ever hear that 20M hardrives are obsolete, and 20G hard drives
> > are standard equipment these days?
>
> It's annoying to scroll through, and my newsreader doesn't recognize it
> as a .sig due to excessive length, so I have to snip it out manually in
> replies.
Here's a clue...when you see this:
"Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer"
stop reading.
>
> A 38 line .sig is just obnoxious any way you look at it. Especially one
> that's full of petty personal attacks on people who most of the folks
> reading your messages have never even had any contact with.
No...they are not "petty attacks". They are accurate analyses of the
various goofballs named therein.
>
> > Collect the .sig portion of ALL my postings, and it still isn't as
> > much space as a moderately sized JPG.
>
> Your .sig is 1149 bytes. Google's Usenet search shows 6,350 posts by you
> in the last 6 months. That's nearly 7 MB.
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Joshua Hesse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 20 Feb 2001 23:08:40 GMT
In comp.sys.next.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:> > Who's running the place, Hilter?
: ^^^^^^
:Reminds me of the Monty Python skit about Hitler, having immigrated to England,
:under the assumed name of Hilter.
*DING*DING*DING*
Finally, *somebody* got the reference to Monty Python.
I was starting to wonder...
-Josh
--
"I have also mastered pomposity, even if I do say so myself." -Kryten
UNL Anime Club: http://www.unl.edu/otaku
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:02:07 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Craig Kelley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> When you take the entire Open Source movement (BSD, LINUX,
>> GNU, etc) as a singular entity, the picture changes. There's
>> no way MS, in their present form, can compete with it over the
>> long haul. Open source's quality and polish are improving at a
>> rapid rate. Just look at the differences between Linux distros
>> from two years ago and now. MS is right to be concerned.
>> They're being faced with something they're ill equipped to
>> compete against. The only recourse they have is fighting a P/R
>> war. And, they've just recently started it. I'm kind of
>> anxious to see how it plays out... It's gonna be a dirty one,
>> I'm sure! <g>
>
> The other recourse is legal: Take the MPAA/RIAA CSS/Napster
> route and sue everyone in sight until you strangle the
> competition. I believe we've seen the beginnings of that
> already with the comments from last week.
>
> Is Joe garage-hacker going to fight a legal battle over silly
> issues
> (pick one of reverse engineering, look-and-feel, DMCA
> violations,
> silly patents, etc.) against multi-million dollar lawyers?
> Probably not.
>
I think there is a tiny problem with that: the EU.
There is a considerable anti-MS sentiment brewing in Europe,
and the fact that Open Source is not bound to a single company
(or nationality for that matter, there is still a nationalist
anti-American bent to some Europeans, even in high places)
starts looking very interesting to some people in various
governments.
Quite simply, as long as EU regulations are not harmonized with
US law, and given the sorry state of US IP law this is not
likely to happen very soon, OS programming will move quietly to
Europe if MS starts deploying their legal might (let alone the
trade wars that will ensue if they actually manage to outlaw
it).
Just my HFL 0,02 YMMV,
Mart
--
YahDu (Yet another happy Debian user)
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:10:47 -0800
From: John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> John Rudd wrote:
> >
> > [long .sig trimmed]
> >
> > Dude, ever heard of netiquette? :-) no more than 4-6 lines, please. :-)
>
> Dude, ever hear that 20M hardrives are obsolete, and 20G hard drives
> are standard equipment these days?
>
> Collect the .sig portion of ALL my postings, and it still isn't as much
> space as a moderately sized JPG.
>
Has nothing to do with disk space, but user energy.
When I'm sitting here paging through news, hitting the space bar to get
each next page, it takes me 2 or 3 extra pages to get through your
message. 3 pages of repetitive useless data (after I've already read it
the first time.. I wont say anything about whether or not its useful to
read the first time) that waste my time.
Further, it causes your messages to take up 2 or 3 times the amount of
download time ... which is less critical than it was in earlier years,
but even a DSL line can be saturated in a full house.
And, last, violating netiquette is rude reguardless of technology. Did
it become no longer rude to fart at the dinner table when air fresheners
were invented? or fans? No, it's still rude to lift a cheek and rip a
loud and smelly one. Technology doesn't change that.
It's still rude to waste my time and bandwidth, no matter that
technology serves to reduce the impact of that waste as it marches
forward. It's still a waste, and it's still rude for you to impost that
waste upon me.
And even more rude to defend yourself by presuming that you have a right
to consume extra amounts of my disk space just because disk space has
become cheap.
If you want to just admit that you're being rude, no problem. But don't
try to shift the issue on to the reader. Own up to your being rude and
arrogant.
--
John "kzin" Rudd http://www.domain.org/users/kzin
Truth decays into beauty, while beauty soon becomes merely charm. Charm
ends up as strangeness, and even that doesn't last. (Physics of Quarks)
-----===== Kein Mitleid Fu:r MicroSoft (www.kmfms.com) ======-----
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:10:55 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 20 Feb 2001 11:33:02 GMT, Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> >: Personally, I think a Marine Expeditionary Brigade, 2 Marine
> >: Air Wings, and a couple of Iowa-Class battleships should use
> >: the Redmond, Washington campus of Microsoft as a live-fire
> >: training ground.
> >
> >The Iowa-model battleships would be nice, just make sure to adapt nuke
> >artillery shells to its guns. That way, Redmond becomes MS-Parking Lot v.1.0.
>
> As long as the standard shells have range enough to get to
> Redmond, you don't really need to add a nuclear warhead.
> Those shells can do quite a bit of damage on their own.
>
I think we should start an underground rumor-campaing that such things,
are, in fact, in the works.
Make old Bill paranoid.
Gaslight.
Hehehhehe.
> --
>
> Unless you've got the engineering process to match a DEC,
> you won't produce a VMS.
>
> You'll just end up with the likes of NT.
> |||
> / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 20 Feb 2001 23:12:06 GMT
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:04:49 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>1. I favor the abolition of inheritance taxes for precisely that reason.
>Inheritance taxes are one of the MOST Marxist taxes around.
On the contrary, creating a society that hands out rewards on the basis
of inheritance and not merit is a great way to create an aristocracy.
Part of the problem is that you seem to be incapable of distinguishing
between merit and hereditary. This has already been established.
>2. How much you want to bet the the Kennedy's have never paid a dime
>in Inheritance taxes.
Then maybe it's time to lower the thresholds and tighten the loopholes!
I bet that it's not the democrats who are fighting this ...
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:12:52 -0500
Robert Surenko wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Robert Surenko wrote:
> >>
> >> In comp.os.linux.misc Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Robert Surenko wrote:
> >> >>
> >> Your missing the point. How do we "know" that a historical event happened?
> >>
>
> > How do you know that this was posted?
>
> Deductive reasoning --- You responded. Note that if I tried to use
> the Scientific Method I would fail.
Can you think of any *TEST* to see if it has been posted?
>
> My next thousand posts could all post. That would not prove that "the"
> post did.
>
> So... it is possible to know things that are unprovable using the
> Scentific Method?
As I said before....you would have a dead-end career if you ever decided
to go into forensic investigation
>
> >> --
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> - Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> - http://www.fred.net/surenko/
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
>
> > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > direction that she doesn't like.
> >
> > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (C) above.
>
> > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > her behavior improves.
>
> > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - http://www.fred.net/surenko/
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS seeks Gov't help to stop blacks from using computersRe: Microsoft
Date: 20 Feb 2001 23:15:23 GMT
On 20 Feb 2001 23:02:55 GMT, Bloody Viking wrote:
>
>The postal service sells off old gear (due to the upgrade-go-round of course)
>and it being a black majority workplace, causes black computer access, at
>least for some. Once .NET disables all the warez, black postal workers, not
>really affluent enough to afford MS, would be best off going with Linux. Maybe
>a specialty distro could be made to help ease that transition, maybe calling
>it "Blackware", a modified version of Slackware, say by having a working
>filesystem all in one giant tarball on a CD, ready to install by untarring
>into position with a script.
I don't think it's going to be that easy to market Linux to the working
class. Most users are still techno-geeks, and most of these are middle
class (or filthy rich) college kids.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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