Linux-Advocacy Digest #362, Volume #32 Tue, 20 Feb 01 20:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
KDE whiners, continued (Tim Hanson)
Re: .NET is plain .NUTS (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux (Bloody Viking)
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] ("Chad Myers")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Allchin backtracks, now likes open source (Tim Hanson)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] ("Chad Myers")
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (ZnU)
Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source (Tim Hanson)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:46:39 -0500
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:09:58 +0000, Matthias Warkus wrote:
> >It was the Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:18:46 -0000...
> >...and Donald R. McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> The UK has seen gun crime go up since the laws passed.
> >
> >This sort of claim is made by pro-gun advocates about every geographic
> >area where any gun control legislation has passed. Wasn't it Australia
> >or New Zealand where crime rates allegedly "skyrocketed" after gun
> >control was legislated, whereby in reality they did not even increase?
>
> Australia. And the claim was made by Kulkis. As usual, the correct response
> for such a claim is "cite, please ?"
----
Police move to tackle huge rise in gun crime
By Ian Burrell, Home Affairs Correspendent
15 January 2001
A national firearms database is to be established for the first time,
amid fears over record levels of gun crime.
The setting up of the database, recommended by the official inquiry into
the Dunblane massacre of 1996, comes as a report by senior criminal
intelligence officers has uncovered "major weaknesses" in the way
British police tackle gun crime. For the past 11 months, a team of
officers from the National Criminal Intelligence Service has compiled
details of weapons and ammunition seized by the police and has concluded
that the scale of Britain's black market in firearms is "far higher than
anybody had previously thought".
----
http://www.observer.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,363711,00.html
One in three young criminals is armed
Government research shows use of guns is on the rise and gangster films
are blamed for making it seem 'cool'
Special report: gun violence in Britain
Tony Thompson
Sunday September 3, 2000
One in three criminals under the age of 25 owns or has access to a
firearm, the Government's researchers have discovered.
A continuing parliamentary inquiry into the growing number of black
market weapons has concluded that there are more than three million
illegally held fireahms in circulation - double the number believed to
have been held 10 years ago - and that criminals are more willing than
ever to use them.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE whiners, continued
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:47:43 GMT
Alright folks, want to have some fun? Do a Google search on Eric Raymond
--
Every journalist has a novel in him, which is an excellent place for it.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .NET is plain .NUTS
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:48:07 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Charlie Ebert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : I don't give a damn for Copyrights. I use GNU/Linux.
> : Therefore, why should I cooperate with a Copyright organization.
>
> I use Linux becuse I got tired of stupid copyright crap. But copyright is a
> double edge sword. In the above warez boss case who wrongfully fires you for
> not installing the warez deserves to be punished severely. While I respect
> your ideology about copyright, the only realistic way to punish that boss is
> to unleash the "Vito the Enforcers" on him with merely a cell phone as your
> weapon.
>
> It's obvious that if the boss fires you for not installing warez, he'll hire
> someone who will... and leave himself vunerable to the BSA attack.
>
> : Let God be the judge.
>
> Let's leave him out of it. (:
>
> : Exactly my point. It would be like having a dual with your employer.
> : You get the cannon, he get's the skimpy bathing suit.
>
> More like you get the battleship with the 16-inch turrets and he gets a rubber
> band. The mere threat of the BSA and warez should serve as quite a deterrent
> to fucking with an employee. The only defence for the boss is to use GNUware
> only.
>
> : But never cooperate with the BSA. They stand for Copyrights.
> : Copyrights and Microsoft are like Six guns, Horses, and Cows,
> : if there not frozen at your freezer section in your favorite grocery
> : store, they should be.
>
> Actually, if enough people went postal by using the BSA, employers will have
> no choice but to defencively switch to GNUware. The BSA perversely helps the
> cause.
'Law of Unintended Consequences'
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:48:36 -0500
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ZnU wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > John Rudd wrote:
>
> > > > > Dude, ever heard of netiquette? :-) no more than 4-6 lines,
> > > > > please. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Dude, ever hear that 20M hardrives are obsolete, and 20G hard
> > > > drives are standard equipment these days?
> > >
> > > It's annoying to scroll through, and my newsreader doesn't
> > > recognize it as a .sig due to excessive length, so I have to snip
> > > it out manually in replies.
> >
> > Here's a clue...when you see this:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer"
> >
> > stop reading.
>
> My newsreader allows me to page through messages by hitting the
> spacebar. With your messages, I need to hit it an extra 2-3 times to
> scroll through your .sig.
>
Try the 'N' key and see what happens.
> > > A 38 line .sig is just obnoxious any way you look at it. Especially
> > > one that's full of petty personal attacks on people who most of the
> > > folks reading your messages have never even had any contact with.
> >
> > No...they are not "petty attacks". They are accurate analyses of the
> > various goofballs named therein.
>
> Great. Why do you think anyone cares?
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:49:15 -0500
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ZnU wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > John Rudd wrote:
>
> > > > > Dude, ever heard of netiquette? :-) no more than 4-6 lines,
> > > > > please. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Dude, ever hear that 20M hardrives are obsolete, and 20G hard
> > > > drives are standard equipment these days?
> > >
> > > It's annoying to scroll through, and my newsreader doesn't
> > > recognize it as a .sig due to excessive length, so I have to snip
> > > it out manually in replies.
> >
> > Here's a clue...when you see this:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer"
> >
> > stop reading.
>
> My newsreader allows me to page through messages by hitting the
> spacebar. With your messages, I need to hit it an extra 2-3 times to
> scroll through your .sig.
>
> > > A 38 line .sig is just obnoxious any way you look at it. Especially
> > > one that's full of petty personal attacks on people who most of the
> > > folks reading your messages have never even had any contact with.
> >
> > No...they are not "petty attacks". They are accurate analyses of the
> > various goofballs named therein.
>
> Great. Why do you think anyone cares?
Would you like to see the bandwidth of this newsgroup DOUBLE due to flame fests?
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:27:46 GMT
Bob Surenko writes:
> So... it is possible to know things that are unprovable using the
> Scentific Method?
Nothing is provable using the scientific method.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: 21 Feb 2001 00:51:11 GMT
Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Charlie Ebert wrote:
: > This is another way. But if you followed my original idea
: > of making an OS - Applications - and development tools as
: > seperate chunks you would have accomplished the goal much
: > quicker as the development tools are necessary for those
: > applications to exist.
: Hmmmmm, never even thought about that way of slicing it up.
: that's a good one.
Even that wouldn't be enough to prevent the OS company from retaining control.
Instead, you bust up the company into the apps and separate development tools
companies and _open source_ the OS. It was the OS that gave Microsoft its
power in the first place as all the apps have to run on an OS. That power has
to be permanently taken away, and court-ordered GNUing of Windows * is the
only way.
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
------------------------------
From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:37:48 GMT
"Theo de Raadt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Said Charlie Ebert in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 19 Feb 2001
> > [...]
> > >What is *THIS* fucking bullcrap about Chad?
> > >
> > >Why?
> >
> > Because he is a troll who, for reasons mysterious to the rest of us,
> > finds validation in being replied to, regardless of what the reply is or
> > what things he has to say, be they facts, inflammatory opinions,
> > misrepresentations, or outright lies, in order to get it.
>
> No no no.
>
> He's not a troll. He's a net-kook.
More insults and more avoidance of facts from Theo de Raadt.
Thank god I don't use any of your software. I value quality and security.
-Chad
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:54:09 -0500
Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Craig Kelley"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > If we really want to save lives here, why not ban alcohol so that the
> > > DUI rate goes down? DUIs kill more people every day than hand guns do
> > > all year.
> >
> >
> > You should not let the persuite of the excellent get ni the way of
> > the good. Hand guns are banned here and there are far fewer gun
> > related deaths here than in the US. If you discount N. Ireland, then
> > the statistics look even better.
>
> I agree with the idea, I just don't think it will make anything
> better. If we could instananeously rid ourselves of all hand guns,
> I'd be the first to vote for such a plan; but the reality is that
> deterence is a factor in this decision. There will be illegal guns,
> and just like the war on drugs is a complete failure, so will a war on
> hand gun ownership.
Not to mention that manufacturing guns in the basement is even
easier to do than making illicit drugs.
Since the weapons embargo to Yugoslavia, the manufacture of AK-47's
(full auto) has become a national cottage industry. Anybody with
a lathe, milling machine, press, or jig saw is in on the act.
Manufacturing cost per unit: US $30.
Source: US Army intelligence.
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:54:28 GMT
"Platforms Group Vice President Jim Allchin was "misunderstood" when he
expressed concerns last week about the long-term industry effects of
open-source software."
"Allchin's concerns, eWEEK was told, stem fromGPL paragraph (2B), which
states, "You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in
whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part
thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties
under the terms of this License."
so he doesn't hate all open source, just the type M$ can't hijack.
--
A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe
in God.
------------------------------
From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:00:20 GMT
Robert Surenko writes:
> In both cases it's a matter of faith.
Only for those who cling to the illusion of certainty.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
------------------------------
From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:57:24 GMT
Robert Surenko writes:
> Many people claim that the only way to "know" something is the Scientific
> Method.
Who are these people?
> They also claim that any other way of "knowing" is un-scientific.
You say that as if you see something controversial in the notion that that
which does not involve the scientific method is not scientific.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
------------------------------
From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:40:43 GMT
"Markus Friedl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:96uoe1$9a8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In <Fwdk6.41069$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Chad Myers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> otherwise it's impossible to take your claims for serious.
>
> >Maybe for you. When presented with facts, you just dismiss them because
> >it's to scary?
>
> not it's not too scary. when wrote the protocol 2 implementation
> for OpenSSH I learnt a great deal about the SSH protocol and
> from your postings it seems that you have no idea what you
> are talking about.
I never claimed I did. I just want someone to answer for why there
are so many vulnerabilities in SSH. I never claimed I was an expert,
I was merely citing other experts.
Somehow, someone attempted to pigeonhole me into that, but I've
maintained that I wasn't an expert all along.
I merely cite sources of other experts who have recorded and
demonstrated known vulnerabilities in SSH. Vulnerabilities that
STILL exist in a large number of installations.
Yes, those people should patch, but they don't.
What is being done to ensure that these people are receiving
the information they need to receive?
Many large-scale firewall products and other security-related
products have extensive mailing lists and customers notification
methods (including update-checkers) to ensure that the latest
updates have been applied to their security software.
Is there anything like this in SSH or OpenSSH?
If not, why not?
-Chad
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:56:21 -0500
Tim Hanson wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > Bloody Viking wrote:
> > >
> > > Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > : Personally, I think a Marine Expeditionary Brigade, 2 Marine
> > > : Air Wings, and a couple of Iowa-Class battleships should use
> > > : the Redmond, Washington campus of Microsoft as a live-fire
> > > : training ground.
> > >
> > > The Iowa-model battleships would be nice, just make sure to adapt nuke
> > > artillery shells to its guns. That way, Redmond becomes MS-Parking Lot v.1.0.
> > >
> >
> > Na... full broadsides of 16-inch High Explosive rounds are more fun.
> >
>
> Alas, the battleships are no longer here. All that's left are the Carl
I believe that two of them have not been decommissioned yet...just
put back into the mothball fleet.
> Vinson, Independence, and Ranger here, and the Abraham Lincoln in
> Everett. We'll just have to struggle through with air strikes.
>
It's too bad. Naval Artillery is a relatively cheap way to support
any Marines who need to establish a beachhead.
> --
> Every journalist has a novel in him, which is an excellent place for it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:56:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> > My newsreader allows me to page through messages by hitting the
> > spacebar. With your messages, I need to hit it an extra 2-3 times
> > to scroll through your .sig.
> >
>
> Try the 'N' key and see what happens.
Nothing. And why should I need to change how I read news just for your
sake?
Are you now being deliberately obnoxious? You've just posted a string of
one line posts with your 38 line .sig.
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:56:49 GMT
Tim Hanson wrote:
>
> "Platforms Group Vice President Jim Allchin was "misunderstood" when he
> expressed concerns last week about the long-term industry effects of
> open-source software."
>
> "Allchin's concerns, eWEEK was told, stem fromGPL paragraph (2B), which
> states, "You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in
> whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part
> thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties
> under the terms of this License."
>
> so he doesn't hate all open source, just the type M$ can't hijack.
> --
> A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe
> in God.
Sorry, forgot to paste the URL:
http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2687872,00.html
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