Linux-Advocacy Digest #419, Volume #32 Thu, 22 Feb 01 22:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Does Code Decay (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Another Pete Goodwin "Oopsie"! (Salvador Peralta)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Linux web pads? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola? ("Paolo Ciambotti")
Re: The Windows guy. (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Interesting article ("Les Mikesell")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: The Windows guy. (Donovan Rebbechi)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:52:04 -0500
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:04:01 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >
> > > >I tend to hang out with people who believe in personal freedom.
> > >
> > > Yeah, personal freedom for the aristocracy, right ?
> >
> > I don't know of any aristocracy, other than Kennedy, the Rockefellers,
> > and similar people. They won't let me into their country club, so
> > no, I don't hang out with such types.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Since you believe in "personal freedom", do you support anti-drug
> > > laws ?
> >
> > Not the current ones.
> >
> >
> > Better to just pass a law that says that the punishment for any
> > crime is TRIPLED, and raised a level (say from Class C Misdemeanor
> > to Class B Misdemeanor, or from Class A misdemeanor to Class D
> > Felony) for any offence committed under the influence of drugs
> > or alcohol.
> >
> > This eliminates the contraband problem, and all of the associated
> > side effects, while STILL providing a negative-reinforcement to
> > out-of-control drug use.
> >
> > If someone wants to lock himself in a room and do LSD, no
> > problem. If he wants to do it while driving a vehicle, then
> > he gets hit REALLY hard for anything stupid he does.
>
> That might work with most drugs, but LSD is a bad example. What do you
> do when the guy who's been locking himself in room doing LSD has a
> flashback while driving a vehicle?
Punish him for putting himself in such a situation, as a result
of his previous behavior....as I said....3x punishment for any
wrongdoing committed while under the influence.
Having a flashback is "under the influence"
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:54:20 -0500
"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
> : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :> Nick Condon wrote:
> :> >
> :> > Hmm. Does Godwin apply here?
> :>
> :>
> :> ***FUCK*** Godwin
>
> : You've said this before. What's wrong with Godwin? What did he ever do
> : to you? Are you under the mistaken apprehension that Godwin's Law is a
> : binding rule of netiquette?
>
> It isn't, but many uninformed people think that it is, which has the
> perverse effect of making it very difficult to discuss and therefore
> learn how to prevent the recurrence of crimes similar to Hitler's.
>
Thank you for clarifying my position for the pea-brained woofbert.
> Joe
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Code Decay
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:56:52 -0500
"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : When I was doing anti-terrorist work for the Atlanta Olympics, we
> : had a saying:
>
> : "What does a bomb look like?"
> : "ANYTHING the terrorist wants it to look like"
>
> It's well known among munitions experts that Tim McVeigh's truck bomb,
> while it did considerable damage to the Murrah building and many
> others for blocks around, did NOT cause the collapse of the building
> itself. That had to have been done by shearing a number of inner
> support columns, which, because of the inverse-cube law, the truck
> bomb couldn't have done by itself.
>
> Yet most of the important support columns were in the Federal Credit
> Union office on the first floor. Any bombs or charges would have had
> to have been in plain sight of people working there.
>
> My belief is that the necessary charges were probably concealed inside
> a very ordinary-looking device like a fire extinguisher. All that
Or large paper recycling bins.
> McVeigh's friends would have needed to do is to replace the real FEs
> with modified ones. This could have been done at any time, with or
> without anyone else present, as no one ever would have noticed
> anything amiss.
There is EVERY indication that Law Enforcement people not only
knew about the bombing beforehand, but actually participated in it.
>
> And exactly the same thing could be done in any public place anywhere
> in the world.
>
> Joe
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Salvador Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Pete Goodwin "Oopsie"!
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:00:31 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pete Goodwin quoth:
> > If you cannot accomplish that Herculean task, perhaps you should
> > switch to lpr or avoid using computers entirely.
>
> If The Gimp doesn't make it obvious, maybe the problem is with The
> Gimp?
I see. The gimp has a problem because you can't be bothered to right
click your mouse. Sure it does.
--
Salvador Peralta -o)
Programmer/Analyst, Webmaster / \
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:00:03 +0000
In article <974c08$esk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Mading"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : In article <973stg$giq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Mading"
> : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :> Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :> : No, you don't. You've got GIMP sending raw postscript to the
> printer.
> :> : It's a stupid default, but hey. If you remove that, you should be
> ab
> :> eto
> :> : preint PS level 1, 2 or 3.
> :>
> :> I don't get it - why is that stupid?
>
> : I meant it's sending raw PS, ie it's passing the raw parameter to the
> : spooler, which in turn doesn't apply a filter. This is a stupid
> default
> : because it doesn't work unless you have a PS printer.
>
> Ah. I hadn't known that second part (That it uses an option flag to
> deliberately turn off the filter.) That *is* pretty dumb. If they'd
> just leave well enough alone and not bother with any flags at all, it
> would have worked just fine as-is.
I like the way that Netscape and, in fact, most other apps print. They
print PS and give you a text entry box to enter the print command in. By
default the printer command is "lp(r)" with no options which works perfectly
under most circumstances.
I don't like apps which second gess the user like GIMP seems to be doing.
-Ed
--
| u98ejr
| @
Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
| .ac.uk
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:03:40 -0500
CR Lyttle wrote:
>
> "Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > :>
> > :> I wonder if we could have used that tactic at Desert Storm.....
> > :>
> > :> [.sigsnip]
> >
> > : Well, Actually, the Iraqi soldiers started surrendering to camera crews
> > : precisely because the A-10's and B-52's WEREN'T shouting "BANG!" out the
> > : window.
> >
> > : From an interrogation of an Iraqi POW:
> >
> > : Interrogator:
> > : "Why did you and your friends surrender?"
> > : POW:
> > : Because of the air strikes.
> > : Interrogator:
> > : "There were no air strikes on your unit"
> > : POW:
> > : Yes, but we SAW the air strikes against the Republican Guards
> > : units behind us.
> >
> > Has there ever been a war other than Vietnam in which air superiority
> > was not decisive?
> >
> > Joe
>
> In addition to much of WW II, Afghanistan. We forgot the lessons of
> history in Vietnam, the USSR forgot them in Afghanistan. People with
> personal weapons beat the super-powers with Nuclear bombs.
Afghanistan really doesn't fit. Because the Soviets never really
had air superiority once we started sending Stinger missiles to
the Mujadeen.
I used to be in a stinger unit, and it is a VERY effective weapon.
I did some research to find out just how effective the Stinger was
in Afghanistan. I came across a book, and looked up any references
to the Stinger...here is one thing I found which is very telling:
The author has been travelling with a band of mujadeen for several
weeks. He asks their leader, "Why haven't the Russians attacked us
with aircraft?"
The mujadeen leader replies, "Stinger missiles"
"But...you don't have any Stinger missiles"
"You know that, and I know that...but every time we pass through
a village, I tell the people that we have some Stingers with us."
Conclusion: The mere RUMOR of Stinger Missiles kept all Soviet
attack craft (both fixed-wing and helicoptors) from flying
anywhere within range of this band of men.
Add to that the mountainous terrain, and you are only a small
step from the heavily-forested mountains which almost completely
negate the effectiveness of air superiority even without
effective defensive anti-aircraft systems.
>
> It appears that MS has forgotten the lesson too. People with cheap
> obsolete computers defeat the giant monopoly with unlimited advertising
> budget.
Word of mouth is the most effective form of advertising.
> --
> Russ
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
> Not powered by ActiveX
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:10:09 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Parts of WWII. The Nazis had complete air superiority over the Soviets
> : because they knocked out the Soviet air fields. However, the soviets had
> : huge resources (and a nasty winter) to throw at the Nazis, so they
> : eventually won. In fact if it wasn't for the commies we'd probably all be
> : speaking german by now.
>
> The germans also failed to take out all the airfields like they
> thought they had. The russians were experts at "muskrova" - the
" maskirovka "which, in some regions, such as Ukraine,
southwest Russia will comonly be pronounced "muskrovkuh"
Maskirovka is derived from the verb "maskirovat'", which comes
from the noun "mask" (same as english "mask").
"maskirovat'":
1) to mask, conceal
2) to disguise
3) to camauflage
> word they use to mean roughly, "illusion and camoflague". The
> Germans wasted a lot of time bombing fake airstrips, with fake
> buildings and aircraft. The real airfields put the planes in
> dug-out foxholes with tarpulins over the top covered with dirt,
> so they didn't look like actual airstrips. Granted, not a lot of
> planes were saved this way, but enough were that the germans were
> rather surprised when they kept encountering more planes than they
> thought the russians had.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Linux web pads?
Date: 23 Feb 2001 02:06:43 GMT
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:35:55 -0100, Karel Jansens wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donovan Rebbechi"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But thanks for trying to educate me (it probably won't work; I'm thick, I
>am).
Well, you're hardly the first person to have found the terminology
confusing.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:14:54 -0800
Screw RFC 1855. Your sig sucks. Nobody reads it anymore. Only you
understand it. It's pointless, annoying, and you should properly be
embarassed by it. It's the cyber equivalent of picking your nose in front of an
audience. Give it up.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: 23 Feb 2001 02:21:06 GMT
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:46:12 +0000, Edward Rosten wrote:
>This is a problem that ppes are fully able to solve:
>
>program_that_wont_finish | head -3
>
>pipes can solve that problem if multitasking is used. They can not if
>single tasking is used. Therefore single tasking pipes have only a subset
>of the functionality of mltitasking. Therefore in order to solve all
>computations that pipes are able to solve, multitasking is required.
This does not imply that pipes require multitasking. It merely shows that
a pipe with multitasking has more functionality than a pipe without
multitasking. If you're using shell syntax and sending the input of
one job to the output of another as a definition, then even dos pipes
satisfy the definition.
Since you haven't bothered to quote a definition, one can only conclude
that you're making one up, and then using that to conclude that dos
does not "have real pipes". That's an entirely circular argument, because
you've chosen an arbitrary definition of a "pipe".
>> Moreover, your example does not say anything about pipes, because you
>> are working with a completely ficticious definition of what a "pipe" is.
>
>Eh? I have used shell piping syntax. I could write those programs and run
>it under UNIX. I'm not using a definition, I'm using the real thing.
Shell piping syntax is an example of piping. It is not "the real thing",
it is only a small part of what pipes are. You can do a lot of things
with pipes, many of which have nothing to do with plugging one filter
into another.
Have you heard the parable of the elephant and the blind men ?
Well you're one of the blind men.
Come back and talk about pipes when you understand what they actually
are.
>I'm using piping syntax as define under DOS and (modern) UNIX shells. I
>know what it is. How would I know what | did if I didn't know what pipes
>did?
The blind man also knows what an elephant is -- it's "very much
like a snake"
Again -- piping syntax is NOT piping. It's a small subset
of the functionality offered by pipes.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:21:55 GMT
"Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:973u4o$gks$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : "Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> : news:96v133$im8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :>
> :> It demonstrates exactly the opposite.
>
> : How do you get that? If it has to be done over it means it was done
wrong
> : the first time. Do you want to encourage users to make their own
> : mistakes with the security of their files?
>
> Some things have to be done over and over even if they are done right
> the first time, because circumstances change. In my example, you will
> note, I described a department with new people coming into it that
> weren't there when the groupd was first made.
But when circumstances change, they change globally. Why would
you want every individual to apply ACL's and have to update them
on every file when the circumstances change as opposed to letting
the system administrator take care of updating the groups as
the groups change?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 23 Feb 2001 02:29:06 GMT
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:42:10 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:14:47 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>
>> >Really?
>> >
>> >1. So, what you're saying, is that, after you die, you intend to pass
>> >on absolutely NOTHING of value to your children and/or grandchildren?
>>
>> I doubt I'm likely to have anything over the threshold for the inheritance
>> tax in the US.
>
>I see. So, basically, you have some arbitrary figure in mind as to how
>much is "too much".
Obviously, the figure would have to be viewed in context of other taxes.
I'd suggest a rate comparable to the top marginal rate (I believe the
existing inheritance rate is higher) and put the threshold fairly high
(as it already is).
>Or are you an "I don't care about injustice as long as it doesn't
>effect me" hypocrite.
Those poor fund babies -- how my heart bleeds for them.
>> But suppose I was taxed at 100%. That would not stop me
>> working while I was alive, no. I'm not saying they should tax at that
>> rate though.
>
>You would willingly get up and go to work each day under a
>100% income tax law?
I was referring to inheritance. I'd still work if my inheritance ws
taxed at 100%.
I don't advocate a 100% marginal rate for income taxes.
[ snip ]
If you really think I'm advocating that, I can see why you are expressing
disagreement ...
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: 23 Feb 2001 02:36:11 GMT
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:07:35 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>"Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Try P659, last paragraph:
>>
>> ----
>> "The simplest form of communication between processes is by
>> *pipes*,
>>
>> ...
>>
>> A pipe is essentially a queue of bytes between two processes".
>>
>> ----
>>
>> From this it seems that they are making it pretty clear that a pipe
>> is a form of IPC. It is not simply reading output from one command
>> and using that as input for another.
>
>There are several kinds of pipes actually. For instance, Win32 has Named
>pipes as well as shell pipes. Shell pipes, as being referred to here, are a
>byproduct of the shell diverting the output of one program into the input of
>another.
Irrelevant diversion. Named pipes are pipes, because they are used for
interprocess communication. Dos pipes are not pipes because there is
no such thing as IPC without multitasking (at least it's not real IPC,
and hence they're not real pipes)
>But still, the definition does not state anywhere about the necessity of
>multitasking to be there for it to be a "real" pipe. The definition also
>holds for the temporary file used in MS-DOS.
The definition says that pipes are an IPC mechanism. temp files are not.
There's a difference between communicating and doing an autopsy. DOS does
the latter.
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Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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