Linux-Advocacy Digest #444, Volume #32 Sat, 24 Feb 01 05:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Is innovation a blessing? (was Interesting article) (John Venning)
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Into the abyss... (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
RTFM at M$ (Tim Hanson)
Re: Wy Linux will/is failing on the desktop ("Paul Dossett")
Re: Is innovation a blessing? (was Interesting article) (Peter Hayes)
Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola? (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:39:33 -0500
Peter Hayes wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:54:25 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Donal K. Fellows" wrote:
> > >
> > > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> > > > *SOME* gun deaths are entirely legitimate, by the way....such
> > > > as when a bystander, or victim, shoots a perpetrator.
> > >
> > > A bystander? Not sure I'd agree with that being taken as anything other
> > > than murder. Criminals still have rights, even when they abuse the rights
> > > of others.
>
> Unfortunately, the concept that victims have rights is rapidly disappearing
> - Farmer Martin is a typical case in point.
>
> > >This is because we live in (what we like to think of as) a
> > > free society, and is IMHO one of the main features of one...
>
> Yes, it's rapidly becoming a free society for the villain, but the victim's
> suffering, which can last a lifetime, is regarded as irrelevent.
>
> > Did you know that when coming into a situation in progress, the
> > police shoot the WRONG person about 40% of the time. Conversely,
> > armed-bystanders kill the wrong person less than 5% of the time.
>
> A natural consequence of gun law.
>
> So what happens to the cop? Are they suspended? Charged with
> murder/manslaughter? Given a ticking off and put on traffic duty for a
> fortnight?
>
> In the UK, there's very, very few occasions when the police shoot even the
> criminal, let alone innocent bystanders. And it's usually after all
> peaceful attempts at resolving the situation have failed,
>
> Far more innocent bystanders are killed by cops chasing joy-riders.
>
> And before you ask, the answer is no, I don't propose the abolition of the
> motor car, they're a useful, perhaps essential adjunct of modern life, guns
> aren't.
Ever notice that the only thing that puts and end to a killing spree
is the ARRIVAL OF MORE GUNS in law-abiding hands (either civilian
or police or military).
Therefore, guns are STILLL a necessary tool in modern life....and
will be until you can figure out a way to PREVENT *every* person
from even contemplating murder. [fat chance of that].
>
> <mega sigsnip>
> --
>
> Peter
>
> 55�25"N 4�44'W
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: John Venning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is innovation a blessing? (was Interesting article)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:43:49 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are right, Mr Colla.
Mr Stevenson, inventor of 'The Rocket' simply laid steel section inside the ruts made
by
Roman chariots because it saved him the cost of sleepers. That determined the gauge of
English railway track. at 4' 8 1/2".
John Venning
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:48:11 GMT
Said Se�n � Donnchadha in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri, 23 Feb 2001
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
>>
>> Despite your squirming, Sean, there is simply no way that Windows can
>> have two versions of the same library available simultaneously. This is
>> the subtle but key point which this discussion revolves around.
>>
>
>This "key point" is completely false, Troll M.,
Not in my experience.
>and I suspect you know that
>but would rather lie than agree with someone who doesn't want Microsoft
>blown off the face of the planet. Aside from file naming conventions and
>Windows' lack of symbolic link support - at the OS level - DLLs work exactly
>the same way in Windows as shared libraries work in any modern Unix-like OS.
>Two different processes may use two different versions of a given library,
>even if both library versions use the same filename, as long as they reside
>at different filesystem paths.
That's not what I've heard. If there's a FOO32.DLL loaded from an
applications path, that's the one that everyone gets; likewise for a
FOO32.DLL loaded from the system directory. There's only one FOO32.DLL
that can be gotten to by any application, period. And its pretty much
anybody's guess which one it is, since Windows doesn't actually manage
this, but just sort of stumbled into it, like a sort of grade-school
design flaw in a supposedly professional system.
>> >How is anyone forced to follow the convention?
>>
>> A desire for interoperability. Common and mandatory in all software
>> producers save monopolists.
>
>How about a serious answer instead of your usual troll, Troll M.?
You have me confused with someone who would find it entertaining for
more than one comment at a time to mock the absurdist notions one sees
on Usenet.
My comment was entirely and even severely serious, Sean. It was
complete and pointed, as well; interoperability is a necessity for
competitors, and a thing to be avoided for monopolists. Have you a
response?
[...]
>> This is the same subtle point I raised before: Pete's comment described
>> how Unix is able to support two versions of the same library
>> simultaneously. While the equivalent way which Windows "works" results
>> in the exact opposite; Windows cannot have two versions of the same
>> library available, EVEN IF THE FILENAMES ARE DIFFERENT.
>
>Nope. Totally false, and easily disproven.
False, not "totally false". Windows cannot use two different DLLs of
the same name at the same time, and identifies DLLs by filename. I was
incorrect in thinking, innocently, that Windows could actually have a
library identified by something other than the filename. My bad.
>> >Now I'm certain that you're confused about how Win32 DLLs work. Are you sure
>> >you aren't thinking of Win16, because it's sounding more and more like you
>> >are.
>>
>> How so?
>
>Peter's earlier comments indicated the same misconception that you're trying
>to propage here, Troll M. Of course in your case it's probably a deliberate
>lie.
I'm sorry. You didn't answer my question. How does Win16 differ from
Win32? You indicated there was some difference in how it handled these
things, that Peter might have been confused about them. All I asked is,
"How so?" What "misconception" is this you refer to?
>> >[...]
>> >No, and I've already acknowledged that. But the ActiveX component can'd
>> >damage the computer it's running on, nor does it have an address book to
>> >scrub for spam purposes.
>>
>> How is this supposed to illustrate how ActiveX is not chock full of
>> vulnerabilities waiting to be exploited?
>
>It's just part of the reason why blaming ActiveX for the security problems
>of the underlying OS is like blaming the mailman for the damage caused by a
>letterbomb.
This might make sense, if it weren't for the fact that its only certain
mailmen who are stupid enough to deliver letterbombs.
>ActiveX is just a packaging format and delivery mechanism for
>native binary code. Like the ELF binary format and the FTP delivery
>mechanism, ActiveX can and should do nothing to protect you against
>malicious cargo.
Yet it's inexplicably bound to the monopoly OS. Somehow, this makes it
a problem.
>> Do you find that drastically
>> limiting your use of Microsoft components in other situations is also
>> the only method you have of maintaining control?
>>
>
>Heh. Nice one, Troll M.
Please, call me Max.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Into the abyss...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:51:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Nope, in Unix there is absolutely no way for a normal
> user to do this - in order to do that to a system, you
> would need to have obtained root access.
Sorry, meant to say "do it as root".
I did once try rm .* as a user not realising what it would do!
--
Pete
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:53:17 -0500
Woofbert wrote:
>
> In article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "B.B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > @Most any country. Law-abiding citizens are not the ones commiting
> > @the crimes.
> >
> > Not necessarily. People exploiting every loophole availble are
> > technically law-abiding, but they are committing crimes. They just get
> > off on technicalities. The most common example would be tax evasion.
>
> Don't confuse tax avoidance and tax evasion. Tax avoidance, which means
> using every tax law to your advantage to pay lower taxes, is neither
> illegal or immoral. (It is, however, annoying to those who don't know
> how to do it.) Tax evasion, meaning to violate tax regulations to pay
> lower taxes, is illegal.
>
> > Also, everybody breaks one law or another at some point. Even if
> > they're obscure, unenforcable, or forgotten laws. The people are
> > law-abiding, but all of those crimes do add up to a fairly signifigant
> > amount.
> > IOW, everyone's a criminal someone's standards. It's just that most
> > of us don't give a shit.
>
> There is also the tendency of congresscritters to pass laws that create
> new classes of criminals. For instance, one California Assemblybeing
> wantes to make it a crime to leave your kids in the car unattended.
> Let's say you pull your car out of the driveway and realize you left
> your wallet in your desk. You set the parking brake and dash in to get
> it, find it, and dash back out. If it takes longer than sixty seconds
> and a little kid was in your car the whole time, you'd be a criminal,
> subject to immediate arrest. The cops could then have "probably cause"
> to search your car, and Child Protective Services could then take your
> kid away from you.
>
> With stupid laws like these, people who think they are law-abiding
> citizens become criminals.
This sort of legislation is no accident.
There is a specific, long-term agenda here...to turn as many people
into 'convicted criminals' as possible.
Once everybody is a criminal, even if it's on trumped up charges like
what you described, then it's much easier to take away their right.
After all, this person isn't any ordinary criminal...heaven's no....
the wallet-retrieving parent described above is now among the ranks
of eeevil CHILD ABUSERS [Boooooo! hissss! Hangin's too good for 'im!]
Look at how MISDEMEANOR "domestic violence" convictions are now
being used to infringe upon people's rights. I know several people
who were kicked out of the military, because they pleaded guilty
to a misdemeanor D.V. charge....becasuse it was a MISDEMEANOR.
Now, they are being treated as if they are felons....their right
to posess a firearm has been revoked, therefore they can't qualify
with the M-16, therefore, they must be removed from the military.
If these sinister, nefarious laws are not repealed, Russia will
begin to look like a land of freedom. [And I'm serious about that].
Did you know that we now have a larger percentage of our population
behind bars than ANY other country on the face of the earth?
It's all about stamping "BAD" on as many American as possible,
so that the statists can use it as justification for removing
everybody's rights.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:54:43 -0500
Woofbert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You write like a retard.
> > why is that?
>
> So you can understand me.
No, no...that won't do.
Try again.
>
> --
> Woofbert <woofbert at infernosoft dot com> -- http://www.infernosoft.com
> "As any discussion of the Macintosh progresses, the likelihood of someone
> claiming that the Mac UI was stolen from Xerox approaches 1. At this point,
> the thread has degenerated to such an extent that it might as well end."
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,talk.politics.guns,demon.local
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:57:17 -0500
Joshua Hesse wrote:
>
> In comp.sys.next.advocacy Donald R. McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
> :Ian Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>>then why all of the bullet-riddled bodies in British morgues these days?
> :>
> :>Which bullet-riddled bodies are those? Don't forget, I actually live here. Can
> :>you provide some evidence that the number of bullet-riddled bodies has
> :>increased since the ban on hand guns? Should be easy for you to do if the
> :>facts are on your side.
>
> :http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4111096,00.html
>
> :Tony Thompson
> :Sunday December 31, 2000
> :The Observer
>
> :Gun crime in Britain is soaring to record levels: executions,
> :woundings and related incidents in the past year are set to be
> :the highest ever, an investigation by The Observer has revealed.
>
> :Preliminary figures show there have been more than 15,000 armed
> :offences during 2000, up by almost 10 per cent over last year.
> :The number of armed operations by police is also at a record level.
>
> :[...]
>
> :Manchester, notorious for its levels of gun crime in the early
> :Nineties, is also seeing a dramatic rise in such offences. In a
> :three-week period in September alone, seven people were shot,
> :including a 16-year-old murdered while riding his bike through
> :a park.
>
> :Although the use of firearms is a countrywide problem, it is most
> :acute in the capital. In the past eight weeks there have been more
> :than 35 reports of guns being fired illegally in London. The result:
> :five deaths and 12 serious woundings.
>
> You clipped out a good line in there:
>
> The rate in Scotland has jumped by 20 per cent.
>
> That settles it. Next time I go to Scotland I'm going to take a
> mace and a claymore. However, I suspect that they don't allow
^^^^^^^^^^
> TOWs on commercial flights.
Is that the two-handed sword, or the shaped-charge anti-personnel
command-detonated explosive shrapnel device?
>
> --
>
> "I have also mastered pomposity, even if I do say so myself." -Kryten
>
> UNL Anime Club: http://www.unl.edu/otaku
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RTFM at M$
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:58:06 GMT
http://www.microsoft.com&[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp
--
Legislation proposed in the Illinois State Legislature, May, 1907:
"Speed upon county roads will be limited to ten miles an hour
unless the motorist sees a bailiff who does not appear to have had a
drink in 30 days, when the driver will be permitted to make what he
can."
------------------------------
From: "Paul Dossett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wy Linux will/is failing on the desktop
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:09:49 GMT
"Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Todd wrote:
> >
> > "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:96kd2o$3gf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In article <ox7j6.28893$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Paul
> > > Dossett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Um, my Windows box plays several MP3s at once without any problem.
> > > > Perhaps your hardware is not up to the task? Most modern soundcards
> > > > will mix up to
> > > > 64 streams of audio IN HARDWARE, and yes, Windows does allow it.
> > > >
> > > > Unless of course my Windows box is MAGICAL.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why do you play several MP3s at once? It must sound truly awful.
Please
> > > explain this to me.
> >
> > Duh. It's not that he *does*, it's that he *can*. Or more importantly,
> > that Windows 2000 can. Easily.
> >
>
> Big fucking deal. Playing an MP3 is a trivial task....pushing 16-bit
> numbers at a rate of 44kHz is something even a low-end 386 machine
> should
> be able to handle SEVERAL TIMES OVER with ease.
>
>
>
> That's like getting all excited that a baby can swallow food.
Yeah, duh. That's why I corrected the guy who claimed Windows couldn't do
it. ANY modern OS should have no trouble, even one written by M$.
<obscenely long .sig snipped>
Paul D
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is innovation a blessing? (was Interesting article)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:55:41 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:33:04 +0000, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > used thereafter, but just looking at the grooves, and at a normal
> > railway the similarity is striking. Given the very limited knowledge of
> > the author on the subject, I don't believe his opinion being more
> > founded than mine.
>
>
> No, but it does show that the choice of guage is farly coincidental since
> there were many guages in the US until one was standardised on. They
> could have standardised on any one.
As an aside, the London (Paddington) to Bristol line had its gauge changed
**over a weekend**, sometime around the beginning of the 20th century.
Nowadays, Railtrack can't even keep the trains running - such is progress.
--
Peter
55�25"N 4�44'W
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 05:06:55 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Only if you can think of a better way of getting the offenders
> : to behave.
>
> : My method works.
>
> Do you honestly actually *believe* that, without your sig these
> people would have not started to 'behave' as you put it?
There was a definite cause-and-effect reaction.
When I started advertising their ignoble behavior at the bottom
of every post, there was an almost immediate cessation of
scirrilous attacks upon me.
Ever notice how bullies quit attacking anybody who manages
to hurt them back. To these sick in-duh-viduals, it's only a
fun "sport" if their target never fights back.
Human behavior--learn it.
I don't make those rules....
I merely observe them, and behave accordingly.
And the best way to keep yourself from being harassed is to hit
the harasser hard enough that they have no taste for continuing
the battle.
> Threads
> eventually die. People go on to other things. That's how usenet
> is. Your .sig has nothing to do with it, other than perhaps making
> people tired of reading your posts.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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