Linux-Advocacy Digest #642, Volume #32 Sun, 4 Mar 01 19:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (J Sloan)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (mlw)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (pip)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (pip)
Re: NT vs *nix performance ("JS PL")
Re: Linux Joke (Tim Hanson)
Re: Mircosoft Tax (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (sandrews)
Re: Mircosoft Tax (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (Karel Jansens)
Re: NT vs *nix performance (Giuliano Colla)
Re: Why can't Apple do it? (Neil Bradley)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (mlw)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (pip)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (J Sloan)
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:09:06 +0100
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
In article <lC7o6.41$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3aa02f71$0$28756@reader2...
>> >
>> > You'll often hear about the GPL being free with lots of spin that
>> > morally justifies it. But no matter what, because of the
>> > contstraints, it isn't free.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>> Hmmm,
>>
>> About those constraints: I have a right to free speech, it's in my
>> country's constitution. However this right is constrained by libel and
>> slander laws.
>>
> You have a right to write software, it's in my country's constitution.
> There are libel law restrictions (but seldom encountered in software.)
> Using the most severe commercial license doesn't impact upon your
> freedom to write software.
>
> You show an inability to refute the fact that comparing 'free speech'
> with 'free software' is nonsense, and that is typical of many of the GPL
> crew.
>
> I think that further statements in your email, that I have elided,
> should be considered with the basis in fact that there is a serious
> problem with some people in distinguishing between human rights,
> software rights, and property. This is maybe even a medical problem.
> Thorazine is useful in helping calm the lack of such distinction.
>
> John
>
>
Well,
This serves me right for not using paragraph breaks. If you read my post
again, you'll see that I used 'free speech' as an analogy. The last two
sentences of my post were clearly about freedom in general.
I suggest it is you who are confusing (ie narrowing down) freedom in
general with free speech.
I repeat again: absolute freedom is impossible except for hermits. Living
in a community automatically entails accepting limitations on your
freedom so that your neighbour can have the same freedoms as you have.
The GPL is nothing more nor less than a codification of that principle as
it applies to creating and distributing software.
Hope this is clearer,
Mart
--
You have a reputation for being thoroughly reliable and trustworthy.
A pity that it's totally undeserved.
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:18:12 GMT
pip wrote:
> Terry Porter wrote:
>
> > Name just ONE?
>
> OLE, COM (DCOM), ActiveX, DirectX, Driver support, Software support, UI
> consistency.
Buzzwords - we can trade buzzwords all day:
Corba, dri/drm, glx, dynamically loadable/unloadable drivers,
UI freedom of choice, yadda yadda.
jjs
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:23:17 -0500
pip wrote:
>
> In many respects Unix is amateurish. Toolkits, printing subsystems and
> GUI all lack behind at the moment.
Microsoft has been trying to implement a viable remote GUI for well over a
decade, starting with "headless servers" for OS/2.
Microsoft has been trying to make Windows portable and modular since day one.
Odd how you label technology which is already in the state Microsoft is trying
to reach with Windows, as something that is "lagging." Interesting. Just think
about Microsoft's innovation of "symbolic links." lol, get a clue.
> Of course things are changing FAST
> and great programming toolkits are now available (read GTK+).
>
> You are only demonstrating that you don't understand windows are brand
> it stupid. I am not convinced that it is Windows that is.
What does this sentence mean?
>
> Of course windows is restricting in MANY ways - but this gibberish above
> just goes to show how some Linux users are absolutely blind to the good
> points in the Windows OS.
There are NO good points that are inherent to Windows. This is provable. Every
API Windows implements, has a better designed analogy in the UNIX world. More
over, many things in Windows are a direct port of UNIX constructs, only done
VERY poorly. Look at the whole socket API, WSAxxxx, what a joke.
The only thing Windows has going for it are Windows applications. That's it.
> In contrast Linux is a fanastic OPEN system -
> but before you pat yourself on the back - just remember that is still
> crap in many areas and until these get properly solved then you'd better
> not knock "products" that do solve these problems for "normal" users.
> They may not be GPL - but they do work.
The only thing Windows has is applications, and this has nothing to do with
Windows itself.
This will not always be the case.
--
The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time.
The terror of their tyranny, however, is alleviated by their lack of
consistency.
-- Albert Einstein
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http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:32:30 +0000
J Sloan wrote:
>
> pip wrote:
>
> > Terry Porter wrote:
> >
> > > Name just ONE?
> >
> > OLE, COM (DCOM), ActiveX, DirectX, Driver support, Software support, UI
> > consistency.
>
> Buzzwords - we can trade buzzwords all day:
>
> Corba, dri/drm, glx, dynamically loadable/unloadable drivers,
> UI freedom of choice, yadda yadda.
Doh!
They are not buzzwords. Besides - the poster asked me to name one and I
named several.
I don't want to trade buzzwords. I want to illustrate the differences in
OS's as asked to.
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:36:23 +0000
mlw wrote:
> There are NO good points that are inherent to Windows. This is provable. Every
> API Windows implements, has a better designed analogy in the UNIX world.
Show me DirectX.
>More
> over, many things in Windows are a direct port of UNIX constructs, only done
> VERY poorly. Look at the whole socket API, WSAxxxx, what a joke.
Yes I have programmed using winsock 2 and am not impressed.
> The only thing Windows has going for it are Windows applications. That's it.
"get a clue"
>
> The only thing Windows has is applications, and this has nothing to do with
> Windows itself.
whatever
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From: "JS PL" <js@plcom>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:36:52 -0500
"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> In engineering they teach a rule of thumb that one quantity being
> over ten times the next largest means than the smaller can be
> ignored because the larger totally dominates the input.
That's what Apple was probably saying just before the PC hit the market.
It's why they gambled and made the worst decision in their history, not
allowing clones.
> Your fantasy of "it can't be a monopoly if it is not 100%' was not
> true for Standard Oil either, it did not save them from a breakup
> either.
Completely different barrier to entry with software, therefore that's a piss
poor anology.
>
> The percentage does not make a monopoly, that is just market share.
>
> Having a large market share can happen by good business pactices, it
> is the abusing it by acting anticompetitively which breaks the Sherman
> Act.
Except for government granted monopolies you don't get a large market share
unless you meet the demands of your customer.
That's why Linux will never convert more than 3 in 1000 Windows users. Even
if it IS supposedly free. That's also another reason no one likes it. It's
touted as being free, but it's generally not.
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux Joke
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:42:21 GMT
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Keldon Warlord 2000 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : the real answer is: because he has to.
>
> Funny how my ancient 2.0.0 kernel still works after all these years. Like the
> Energiser Rabbit, it keeps going and going and going and going...
>
I noticed that the 2.0 team has _finally_ told people that 2.0.39 will
be the last iteration, that users should move up to at least 2.2 if they
need any additions or bug fixes.
--
The idea is to die young as late as possible.
-- Ashley Montague
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: 4 Mar 2001 23:45:51 GMT
On 4 Mar 2001 19:21:45 GMT, Perry Pip wrote:
>On 4 Mar 2001 18:23:08 GMT,
>Anytime you can't respond to something intelligently you respond like
>that.
Nonsense. I explain why your comments are irrelevant -- because we're
discussing Win 9x prices.
>>FYI, Academic edition of Office : $150-
>>Academic version of Visual Studio Pro: I got it for $69-.
>
>Most of the world is not a lifetime college student like you are. Real
Most of the world also has a higher income. I can afford it at that price,
someone with twice my salary can afford it for double that, if they really
need it.
Of course, OEM prices of MS Office are also relatively low. So Joe Home User
can always get say a cheap Dell with MS Office OEM if he wants to get it
cheaply.
>world prices are much higher. And even with those prices you've doubled
>the price of the OS.
I don't understand what you mean (about doubling the price of the OS)
>>>From another angle, do you know what MS's reported profit margins are??
>>
>>You need a better argument than "they're succesful, so they must be bad"
>>to make a credible case.
>
>This is another example of your poor debating tactics!! Where do I make
>the above argument? I was resonding *your* explicit claim:
>
> "What I am saying is that the "MS's prices are too high" claim is
> unsubstantiated nonsense."
>
>
>Read Judge Jacksons finding of fact part III-F. He says that Microsoft
>could have sold Win98 for $49 and still have made a reasonalbe
>profit.
So what ? The fact that they can sell it cheaper doesn't mean that
they have to.
> The fact that they have a monopoly, which you acknowledge, by
>the definition of monopoly means they can fix prices.
If your definition of monopoly is "they can fix prices", then I simply
don't agree that they have a monopoly. However, that is not the definition
used by the courts of law AFAIK. For example, the fact that they can
effectively put any major OEM out of business by refusing to sell to
them means they have a monopoly (doesn't it?) But it doesn't mean they can
fix prices.
If they could fix prices, then why are their prices comparable to
other commercial OSs ?
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: sandrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:46:01 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Donn Miller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sometimes, when I run Windows............
I want to choke Bill Gates
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: 4 Mar 2001 23:53:31 GMT
On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:35:45 -0700, Dave wrote:
>On 4 Mar 2001 15:42:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
>>I'd argue that Windows is as eassy to install without tech support than Linux
>>is with it.
>
>And I'd disagree. A lot of my friends and co-workers are getting into
>linux, and since I was a bit ahead of them I usually end up helping
>them select and install a distro. Mostly I stick with Slackware for
>the techies and SuSE for the nontechies. Both these distro's have
>given me fewer installation problems than Windows 9x. Average
>installation time for Slackware plus roughly 300 applications runs
>about 15 minutes.
And how about configuration ? How long does it take the average newbie
to configure dialup on Slackware ? Post-install configuration problems
are the main difficulty for the newbie. How does the newbie install
fonts ? My Font HOWTO is over 30 pages long (IIRC).
It's easy to dump a bunch of packages on the machine, but that's not
sufficient.
>It is true that linux takes significantly more skill to fix when an
>install goes awry. However, when a Windows install fails on me the
>only fix is usually a new piece of hardware to solve a compatability
>problem, whereas with linux I can usually fudge the configuration a
>little to get a workable system up and running.
I agree that Linux is easier for a competent user to install, and there's
a lot that you can do to fix it. For example, if Windows hoses the boot
record, you can boot from a rescue disk and easily boot into the same
system (with help from some mount and chroot) so that you can fix it.
Most things can be fixed in Linux. OTOH, I've also had Windows installs
that I just couldn't get to work.
The main problem that newbies tend to have usually boils down to hardware
support. They often need to download bleeding edge drivers to get it working.
I always advise new users to insist that Linux be preinstalled on any
computer they buy.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 01:55:57 +0100
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <97t74b$q3o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > >> I get an exact number for CPU usage and memory consumption of any
> > >> process or application, and what state each process it is in.
> > >
> > >> I get an exact number for CPU usage and memory consumption of any
> > >> process or application, and what state each process it is in.
> > >
> > > On Windows, CPU usage and memory consumption are just not interesting.
> > > Except when I run Windows 2000 then I can see.
> >
> > How do they become more intersting on Win2K?
>
> Because I can see them? Mostly they're of little interest, as they should
> be.
>
Why?
[snip]
> >
> > Could you back this with more than 1 example. The cli tools + piping is
> > one axample of a very elegant design o parts pulling in the same
> > direction.
>
> Oh, I don't have a problem with pipes and tees. I just have a problem
> with the whole cryptic command line.
>
So you don't like to learn stuff, is that it?
> I also have a problem with a desktop on X with either GNOME or KDE that
> appears to be a real hotpotch of applications designed with different
> desktops and varying standards. I've gone over this before, so I won't
> bore you all again with this.
>
If "hotpotch' is your problem, you'll be pleased to learn that it is
perfectly possible in linux to build a desktop that has a nigh-perfect
consistency of interface between applications. It just depends on what
applications you pick (and what desktop, of course).
Personally, I'd rather prefer an interface that is tuned to the
appication and not to the desktop it is running on, so there you go.
> > > Windows 9x is a botched design, a quick hack to keep the punters happy.
> > > Windows NT is where we should be, and maybe with Whistler, if they don't
> > > impose this silly key system on us.
> >
> > WinNT is no way as good as UNIX. That's why Micros~1 is trying to make it
> > in to a UNIX.
>
> Except they're not, they're trying to kill off UNIX. They've succeeded so
> far on the desktop.
>
You can't "kill off" something that hasn't been there. *nix has only
started to "invade" the desktop with the advent of linux and the *BSDs.
It would have been more accurate to say that Microsoft is trying to
prevent *nix from making more inroads into the desktop market. From that
point of view they are not doing such a good job. Especially not
considering that they had a monopoly hold on the desktop to begin with.
> > > In Windows there is so much to choose from,
>
> > Like what?
>
> Applications.
>
Possibly, I wouldn't know. I don't pick my operating system on the basis
of how much applications I can choose from, but rather on whether it
will perform the tasks I want it to do.
> > > so much innovation and fresh
> >
> > Oh yeah. I can't live without the drop-shadow cursor and fading menus.
>
> Who gets the devices and drivers designed first, huh, Linux or Windows?
> Which platform has many games written for it, Linux or Windows?
>
What point exactly are you argumenting here?
> > > air; in Linux everything is old and crumbling and reeks of yesterday.
> >
> > What fresh air. Are GNOME and KDE older than windows?
>
> They're young and they show it.
>
You can't have it both ways, Pete.
> > > Windows gets better every release and has long run away from the
> > > plodding lumbering juggernaut that is UNIX.
> >
> > Yep rnu in the oppersite direction and jumped down a hole.
>
> It's a very nice hole in here. Smells a bit tho'. The stench of virii,
> spam and monopolies. Oh well, that's success for you!
>
The measure of success are viri, spam and monopolies????
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================================================
"You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
==============================================================
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:57:45 GMT
JS PL wrote:
>
> "Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
>
> > > Two clicks from one of the most visited pages on earth is monopoly
> > > prevention:
> > >
> http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Software/Operating_Systems/
> > > and always has been.
> >
> > Nice link, what does it have to do with the subject? The word monopoly
> > doesn't appear in that page.
>
> It can't because all the choices of operating systems on that page would
> drown it out.
> And as far as the subject goes, it has everything to do with the subject.
> Victims of a monopoly don't have the kind of choices that have always been
> available to pc users.
If all that stuff is available, for what reason it's very difficult, and
up to one year ago it was absolutely impossible to buy a PC without an
MS OS pre-installed? Think hard.
>
> > I'd suggest you to try:
> >
> > http://www.fiat.com/
> >
> > Nothing to do with the subject either, but It has nicer colors.
>
> tee hee...It has a little to do with the subject, they're using IIs5 on
> Win2K.
Yes, I know. They don't give a damn about their uptime. Internet is a
side issue for a car-maker. ISP's, which lose money when the site isn't
available, make more sensible choices.
If you want to know which car is the best price/performance compromise,
you don't look at which brand of Limousines Hotel Plaza is using, you
look at which brand a Limousine rental service is purchasing.
If it's not vital for their business, they can make the wrong choice,
and nobody will notice. If it's the core of their business, either they
make the right choice, or they're broke in a blink.
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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:59:17 -0800
From: Neil Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Apple do it?
> > next 10 years is pretty short sighted. It truely is up there infamous
> > industry quotes like the IBM top exec who predicted that the world wide
> > global market for computers was some small 2 digit number (IIRC), or
> > Gates' quote about 640k being all the memory anyone would ever need.
> We all know Bill only said that because it was all he had to offer and what
> MS has to offer defines the limits of the universe.
Gates never said that. It was Thomas Watson Jr.
Think about it. The 640K limitation wasn't a Microsoft curse, it was
IBM's architecture. IBM Made the mistake of mapping system ROMs above
the 640K region instead of down lower. Microsoft worked within those
bounds.
BTW, The quote about there being a need for only 4 computes worldwide
was Thomas Watson Sr.
-->Neil
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:07:50 -0500
pip wrote:
>
> mlw wrote:
> > There are NO good points that are inherent to Windows. This is provable. Every
> > API Windows implements, has a better designed analogy in the UNIX world.
>
> Show me DirectX.
OpenGL?
>
> >More
> > over, many things in Windows are a direct port of UNIX constructs, only done
> > VERY poorly. Look at the whole socket API, WSAxxxx, what a joke.
>
> Yes I have programmed using winsock 2 and am not impressed.
Exactly my point.
>
>
> > The only thing Windows has going for it are Windows applications. That's it.
>
> "get a clue"
>
> >
> > The only thing Windows has is applications, and this has nothing to do with
> > Windows itself.
>
> whatever
--
The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time.
The terror of their tyranny, however, is alleviated by their lack of
consistency.
-- Albert Einstein
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http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:04:20 +0000
mlw wrote:
>
> pip wrote:
> >
> > mlw wrote:
> > > There are NO good points that are inherent to Windows. This is provable. Every
> > > API Windows implements, has a better designed analogy in the UNIX world.
> >
> > Show me DirectX.
>
> OpenGL?
No, try again. Must work with all cards....
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:06:15 -0500
pip wrote:
>
> Edward Rosten wrote:
> >
> > I've never had one. I can even kill this process:
> >
> > main{
> > while(!fork())
> > }
>
> The fork bomb :-)
>
> > Could you back this with more than 1 example. The cli tools + piping is
> > one axample of a very elegant design o parts pulling in the same
> > direction.
>
> Elegant? You must be kidding me.
>
> So tell me this:
>
> taskA > taskB
>
> how does taskB communicate the results of its operation to taskA?
It doesn't...but that's merely due to YOUR incorrect specification.
mkfifo /tmp/pipeA
mkfifo /tmp/pipeB
taskA < /tmp/pipeA > /tmp/pipeB & || taskB < /tmp/pipeB > /tmp/pipeA
>
> Enter CORBA Gnome architecture to fix up broken thinking such as this.
> How was that inspired - guess - M$
> Component programming is clearly the way to go. Small is beautiful, but
> only when it is also smart.
>
> > WinNT is no way as good as UNIX.
>
> For what? As a workstation it may be better but as a server it is not.
> Depends what you value.
>
> >That's why Micros~1 is trying to make it
> > in to a UNIX.
>
> How?
>
> > Oh yeah. I can't live without the drop-shadow cursor and fading menus.
>
> Yeah - they are an incredibly stupid addition - but at least you can
> turn them off.
>
> >
> > > air; in Linux everything is old and crumbling and reeks of yesterday.
> >
> > What fresh air. Are GNOME and KDE older than windows?
>
> Quite so - and this is a VERY good point. If you want to see innovation
> then THESE are great examples of how Linux continues to be the most
> innovative part of computer software today! If people start criticising
> the GUI then they may well note that Andy Hertzfield involved in making
> the next generation of file-manager that will be _better_ than anything
> mac or windows users have seen.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:09:56 GMT
pip wrote:
> mlw wrote:
> > There are NO good points that are inherent to Windows. This is provable. Every
> > API Windows implements, has a better designed analogy in the UNIX world.
>
> Show me DirectX.
dri/drm + opengl
> > The only thing Windows has going for it are Windows applications. That's it.
>
> "get a clue"
He's right on.
I have lost track of the number of people who have said
"I wish I could switch to Linux, but I need to run this one
windows-only app". In other words, they have no great
love for windows, but they are unwillingly chained to it via
an application dependency, e.g. ms word or quicken, the
2 most frequently mentioned stumbling blocks.
jjs
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