Linux-Advocacy Digest #167, Volume #33 Wed, 28 Mar 01 21:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Communism (Barry Manilow)
Re: New worm infests Linux machines/Exposes root backdoor (Goldhammer)
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure (GreyCloud)
Re: rauntard loves it when chaney talks about corpse fucking - reminds her that she
may still have a chance (Anonymous)
Re: Communism (Strabo)
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Chad Myers")
Re: New worm infests Linux machines/Exposes root backdoor ("Chad Myers")
Re: New worm infests Linux machines/Exposes root backdoor (Chronos Tachyon)
Re: I regretfully conclude that Linux is a piece of CRAP. (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Communism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Microsoft abandoning USB? (T. Max Devlin)
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From: Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:58:00 -0800
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Barry Manilow wrote:
> >
> > Craig Kelley wrote:
> > >
> > > Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have freedom to make as much money as I know how.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with this freedom is that this right ends up killing a lot
> > > > of hard-working, decent human beings. That is why capitalism is a
> > > > murdering system. It kills millions of people every year in the
> > > > world.
> > >
> > > As opposed to *what*, exactly.
> > >
> > > Cuba, North Korea and China are not paragons of virtue.
> >
> > China is practically a capitalist country right now.
> >
>
> China uses slave labor to produce its exports. That isn't capitalism,
> its exploitation.
A lot of the Chinese economy is now being run as a capitalist economy.
> But then again, in your case seeing that you may live in Cuba and may
> have been raised there since birth, you probably really don't know what
> a good lifestyle is.
No. Born and raised in the US.
Its relative to your experiences. Eventually,
> capitalism will slowly topple the communist system.
>
> In the ex-soviet state back in the mid 60's, the soviets used to design
> and build their own computers. However, they made a change and decided
> it was easier to just steal the superior american computer systems by
> buying them thru third party channels. The soviet state looks the same
> today as it did in 1946. Total stagnation.
This is not really true. They have advanced a lot since then. In the
50's the rate of economic growth for China and the Soviet Union
exceeded the US. In the last 2 years, the rate of Cuban economic
growth has exceeded the US. The problem with state socialism is you
get great economic growth for a while but then it all bogs down into
beaurocracy. Perhaps a remedy would be having state enterprises
compete internationally.
The Cuban biotech industry is the best in Latin America and is
world-renowned. Wealthy, right-wing Latin Americans from all over the
Hemisphere fly to Cuba to have special procedures performed that their
own capitalist medical system is incapable of. A huge body of
evidence proves that government medical care is superior to capitalist
medicine. Cuba has the best-educated population in Latin America and
one of the healthiest workforces to boot. The rest of the Hemisphere,
including the US, does not believe that medical care is an inherent
right of all humans. Instead, the believe, immorally, that it is a
privelege. Now who has the immoral, evil system here?
Cuba is the only country in the Hemisphere that is dedicated to
providing housing for all citizens. There is basically no
homelessness in Cuba. In the wealthy US, 15% of the population has
been homeless at one time, and many decent, hard-working (full-time)
parents and families have no homes. Now who has the immoral, evil
system here?
--
Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goldhammer)
Subject: Re: New worm infests Linux machines/Exposes root backdoor
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:58:08 GMT
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:35:58 GMT,
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed 28 Mar 2001 12:39, Chad Myers wrote:
>> > Of course, 99% of the time when X freezes, it's usually a complete system
>> > freeze and ALT+F1 doesn't do anything.
>For the brief and unbearable days while I ran Linux as
>my primary OS on my home machine, it locked frequently and required
>a hard reset to come back. At first, I thought this was just poor video
>drivers in linux for my card, but the behavior was reproduced on my
>laptop, and on a machine at work. The truth is that X is a flaming piece
>of shit
Or perhaps the truth is that you were a moron,
hitting ALT+F1 repeatedly, expecting something to happen.
--
Don't think you are. Know you are.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:57:07 -0800
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Chad Myers in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:23:30
> >"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> Bob Hauck <bobh = haucks dot org> wrote:
> >> >On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:25:01 GMT, Chad Myers
> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> Basically, nobody in the embedded space really wants WinCE or NT.
> >> >>
> >> >>You have no facts to back this statement up.
> >> >
> >> >Apparently you have no facts to dispute it either. I design and build
> >> >embedded systems. You claim to be a network admin. Let the reader
> >> >decide who's making things up.
> >> >
> >> http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2683068,00.html
> >>
> >> eWEEK: Linux, which you have described as your greatest competitive
> >> threat, is also pushing into the embedded space. What exactly is the
> >> nature of the Linux threat to Microsoft and what is your strategy to
> >> deal with it?
> >>
> >> BALLMER: The Linux approach has led to an environment from which we can
> >> all learn, as it's a great way to do developer support. While Windows
> >> maintains its pre-eminent position in terms of developer support and
> >> interest, there is something about the way the Linux community supports
> >> itself that every platform provider should study if it wants to provide
> >> broad community. The Linux community support model has resonated with
> >> people.
> >> [...]
> >> This partly led to us reducing Windows CE prices quite dramatically over
> >> the past year ... but I think those prices are now pretty much as low
> >> as they're likely to go.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.electronicstimes.com/story/technology/OEG20010208S0006
> >>
> >> In his speech Ballmer said their may be more concessions on licensing
> >> terms from the company as it tries to build up market share in embedded.
> >>
> >> "We've dramatically dropped the price of Windows CE over the course of
> >> the last year. There may be other things we need to do to show greater
> >> flexibility on terms and conditions," said Ballmer.
> >>
> >> The only reason for "dramatically dropped the price" is because
> >> nobody was buying at the asking price.
> >>
> >> Last year it was "No further price reductions are anticipated"
> >> and then this. I am looking forward to next year.
> >
> >So... basically, Windows CE and PocketPC had significant share, of which
> >Linux was eroding, so MS had to respond.
>
> Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! No, I don't see any indication that CE ever had any
> significant share. Just MS getting more and more desperate for someone
> to buy *any*. There's nothing at all whatsoever in that quote to
> indicate MS ever had any success at all in embedded systems, save
> perhaps some self-serving insinuations by Mr. Ballmer.
>
> >The original claim was that Windows had almost NO share in the
> >market at all, which seems to be untrue (wouldn't be the first time
> >from Bob).
>
> No, the claim, which you made, was: (to requote)
>
> [Bob:]
> >> >>> Basically, nobody in the embedded space really wants WinCE or NT.
> >> >>
> [Chad:]
> >> >>You have no facts to back this statement up.
>
> And not only is that still valid, unrefuted by your rather pitiful
> attempt at legerdemain, but proven even more so by the attention. Yes,
> we have facts to back up our claim that nobody wants it. No, you have
> no facts to back up your claim that a) we have no facts to back that up,
> and b) that MS had any significant success in embedded systems.
>
> You're Oh-for-two, Sparky. Wanna give up?
>
> >> Linux: The Unix defragmentation tool.
> >
> >But I thought Linux wasn't Unix?
>
> Guess not.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
All I've seen at the stores here are Palms running 3.x... no mention of
CE.
The HP jornada using CE has disappeared on the shelves. No interest.
--
V
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:03:59 -0700
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rauntard loves it when chaney talks about corpse fucking - reminds her
that she may still have a chance
Crossposted-To:
soc.support.fat-acceptance,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
rauntard was suffering the orrible pangs of total disability but just
barely managed to type out:
> Sounds like she envies me, and all I did was send one publicly photo
> shot by Sue Carson.
what year was it taken?
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
keepin it real
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: Strabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:17:22 -0500
Matt Kennel wrote:
>
> Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:59:15 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>However, the brutal ways of their Communist Revolution and
> :>subsequent Cultural Revolution are still with them.
>
> They are a Capitalist-Leninist society.
>
> They obviously want to combine the wealth and technological success of
> capitalism with an obsequious and freedomless political system devoted
> to furthering the nationalist aims of the central leadership.
>
> Bad news.
>
> Thank god it wasn't the Japanese.
Also known as a business/government "Partnership". To
think that Hitler and Goebbels(sp?) missed that one. Well,
that's one for Madison Avenue.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:02:15 GMT
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >
> > Said Chad Myers in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:23:30
> > >"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >> Bob Hauck <bobh = haucks dot org> wrote:
> > >> >On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:25:01 GMT, Chad Myers
> > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>> Basically, nobody in the embedded space really wants WinCE or NT.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>You have no facts to back this statement up.
> > >> >
> > >> >Apparently you have no facts to dispute it either. I design and build
> > >> >embedded systems. You claim to be a network admin. Let the reader
> > >> >decide who's making things up.
> > >> >
> > >> http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2683068,00.html
> > >>
> > >> eWEEK: Linux, which you have described as your greatest competitive
> > >> threat, is also pushing into the embedded space. What exactly is the
> > >> nature of the Linux threat to Microsoft and what is your strategy to
> > >> deal with it?
> > >>
> > >> BALLMER: The Linux approach has led to an environment from which we can
> > >> all learn, as it's a great way to do developer support. While Windows
> > >> maintains its pre-eminent position in terms of developer support and
> > >> interest, there is something about the way the Linux community supports
> > >> itself that every platform provider should study if it wants to provide
> > >> broad community. The Linux community support model has resonated with
> > >> people.
> > >> [...]
> > >> This partly led to us reducing Windows CE prices quite dramatically over
> > >> the past year ... but I think those prices are now pretty much as low
> > >> as they're likely to go.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://www.electronicstimes.com/story/technology/OEG20010208S0006
> > >>
> > >> In his speech Ballmer said their may be more concessions on licensing
> > >> terms from the company as it tries to build up market share in embedded.
> > >>
> > >> "We've dramatically dropped the price of Windows CE over the course of
> > >> the last year. There may be other things we need to do to show greater
> > >> flexibility on terms and conditions," said Ballmer.
> > >>
> > >> The only reason for "dramatically dropped the price" is because
> > >> nobody was buying at the asking price.
> > >>
> > >> Last year it was "No further price reductions are anticipated"
> > >> and then this. I am looking forward to next year.
> > >
> > >So... basically, Windows CE and PocketPC had significant share, of which
> > >Linux was eroding, so MS had to respond.
> >
> > Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! No, I don't see any indication that CE ever had any
> > significant share. Just MS getting more and more desperate for someone
> > to buy *any*. There's nothing at all whatsoever in that quote to
> > indicate MS ever had any success at all in embedded systems, save
> > perhaps some self-serving insinuations by Mr. Ballmer.
> >
> > >The original claim was that Windows had almost NO share in the
> > >market at all, which seems to be untrue (wouldn't be the first time
> > >from Bob).
> >
> > No, the claim, which you made, was: (to requote)
> >
> > [Bob:]
> > >> >>> Basically, nobody in the embedded space really wants WinCE or NT.
> > >> >>
> > [Chad:]
> > >> >>You have no facts to back this statement up.
> >
> > And not only is that still valid, unrefuted by your rather pitiful
> > attempt at legerdemain, but proven even more so by the attention. Yes,
> > we have facts to back up our claim that nobody wants it. No, you have
> > no facts to back up your claim that a) we have no facts to back that up,
> > and b) that MS had any significant success in embedded systems.
> >
> > You're Oh-for-two, Sparky. Wanna give up?
> >
> > >> Linux: The Unix defragmentation tool.
> > >
> > >But I thought Linux wasn't Unix?
> >
> > Guess not.
> >
> > --
> > T. Max Devlin
> > *** The best way to convince another is
> > to state your case moderately and
> > accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
>
> All I've seen at the stores here are Palms running 3.x... no mention of
> CE.
> The HP jornada using CE has disappeared on the shelves. No interest.
Which store? When I go to Best Buy, Palms have significant counter
space, however there are several Pocket PC's.
When I got o CompUSA, it's the reverse, many Pocket PC's and few Palms.
Circuit City has a mix of both.
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New worm infests Linux machines/Exposes root backdoor
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:03:10 GMT
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Said GreyCloud in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:39:10
> > > > [...]
> > > > >> >Win9x sucks, though, we've already established that. That's why MS
is
> > > > >> >ditching it and going with WinXP which is based on the NT/2K kernel.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yes, but we've already established that NT, 2K, and XP all suck, too.
> > > > >> That's the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > >Just refering to win9x series... I claim here as I have earlier that I
> > > > >don't know anything about NT. I leave that to others. But,
considering
> > > > >MS track record of reliability, their credibility is in grave doubts
> > > > >here.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, that's a very wise position to take, obviously. NT is, indeed,
> > > > much more stable as an OS than DOS, and 2K does improve on that, as
> > > > well. But I assure you the only reason anyone would consider NT or 2K
> > > > "reliable" is if they've never seriously used anything *but* WinDOS.
> > > > You know how horrid that is. So its no surprise, hmm, that NT or 2K is
> > > > 'the bee's knees' for the Windroid, given the comparison.
> > > >
> > > > I said before that NT is more stable *as an OS*, because the point is,
> > > > as a *platform*, its every bit as unreliable as any other Windows. And
> > > > this, of course, is where the bad design of Windows really shines. NT,
> > > > of course (including W2K and XP) doesn't fall over every time an
> > > > application coughs up a lung, like WinDOS does. But it does crash,
> > > > bomb, freeze, lock, wedge, glitch, or otherwise require a
> > > > re-initialization (to arbitrary extent) on a routine basis.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > T. Max Devlin
> > > > *** The best way to convince another is
> > > > to state your case moderately and
> > > > accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
> > >
> > > Thats what I thought. I had an older distro on my box but an app in X
> > > froze up, so I alt-F1 to get a virtual terminal, logged in as root, did
> > > a ps -ax and found the ID of that process and killed it. Logged out of
> > > root, did an alt-F(?) (forgot) and back in to my original X gui and
> > > everything was back again. Its one of the best features I've found and
> > > not in any other O/S that I know of.
> >
> > Of course, 99% of the time when X freezes, it's usually a complete system
> > freeze and ALT+F1 doesn't do anything.
> >
> > -c
>
> How could a WinDrool know?
Are you completely devoid of intellectual thought?
Apparently so.
*PL0NK*
-c
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New worm infests Linux machines/Exposes root backdoor
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:21:02 GMT
On Wed 28 Mar 2001 06:32, GreyCloud wrote:
[Snip]
>
> Hey... its not worth the effort. The guy's a Billy Butt Crust.
>
I know, I know, don't feed the trolls... I've just made a bad habit of
trying to find reason among the unreasonable.
--
Chronos Tachyon
Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
[Reply instructions: My real domain is "echo <address> | cut -d. -f6,7"]
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I regretfully conclude that Linux is a piece of CRAP.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:34:07 +1200
Depends what environment you were bought up in. In my case, my father worked
for Burroughs (which was bought out by UNISYS), and I was encouraged at a
young age to read. At the age of 9 I got my first computer, an Amiga 500 w/
512K of memory, 14" Monitor and all the bells and whistles. Like most
children at that age, I wanted to know how things worked, why things worked
that way, so, I started reading the books that came with the computer, by the
age of 13, I knew the in's and out's of of the Amiga. I knew how to use
every program I had available to me. 1996 I got a PC, Pentium 75 w/ 8MB RAM,
850MB Hard Disk loaded with Windows 95, however, as time went on, adding
patches, numerous crashes, I bought a copy of PC Plus (a UK Mag), and they
had a copy of Redhat Linux 5.2 on the cover CD-ROM. I partitioned it using
fips, created 3 disk, and then proceeded to reboot. Prior to reboot
I printed EVERY article I could regarding installing Redhat 5.2.
Reboot, and installed it. Since then I have hovered back to the Windows
world a couple of times just to see whether there has been an improvement,
and each time I do, I am severely disappointed, and then switch back to
Linux. Windows 2000 Pro was the last time I had a look (btw I did the wise
thing, and bought the 120 day trial version. Nope, Microsoft has definitely
hammered the last nail in the coffin for Windows. Microsoft will have to do a
hell of alot more to win over my support, alot more.
Matthew Gardiner
Brian Rourke wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:46:43 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >I've yet to see the average computer user tell *ANYBODY* what they *want*
> >in a GUI...because they are to ignorant to even know what is possible...
> >and they *KNOW* they they are too ignorant to know what is possible
> >without investing the time it takes to study what makes computers tick.
> >
> >> --
>
> You put the problem pretty well. People who don't know what the
> alternatives are can't really know what they want. (If all I've ever
> tasted is non-dairy creamer, how can I say I prefer it to milk?) And
> my guess is the people doing "market research" are only interested in
> putting alternatives to them that match their clients' interests, not
> the (potential) interests of the customers. Thus a vicious circle
> forms...
>
> Brian
>
> The late spring sunshine flooded,
> like a bursted tepid star,
> the pink Boulevard. The people
> beneath crawled like wounded insects
> of cloth.
>
> Wyndham Lewis
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Communism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:40:44 GMT
Said Craig Kelley in alt.destroy.microsoft on 28 Mar 2001 08:22:12
>Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>Have you ever spoken with a Cuban? I speak fluent spanish and I have
>spoken with *many* and they all pretty much:
>
> 1) Love Cuba
>
> and
>
> 2) Despise the government
Sounds like a generic definition of "patriotism" to me. I'm sure Aaron
Kulkis would agree. So do Cubans of your acquaintance despise the
government more or less than Aaron Kulkis does? And on what basis do
you presume this would be different, were Cuba "capitalist" instead of
"communist".
>Why do you think they kill themselves to come *here*?
Because they believe the Coca Cola ads. Wouldn't *you*?
>> Will the US even commit to this? No. Actually, lack of proper
>> medical care murders 250,000 Americans every year, in one of the
>> world's richest countries! Most of these are good, hard-working
>> folks. Why did they have to die? So a relative few could make some
>> extra bucks. How could anyone defend such a system?
>
>Huh? I've lived in cities from the size of millions to a small town
>the size of 4000 and have never seen these people. I supported myself
>by working at McDonald's and managed to pay for school at the same
>time. I didn't manage to pay for the nicest place to live, but I had
>enough money to buy a PlayStation and way too many games.
>
>Death never entered the equation.
Nor does it in Cuba, only they don't have PlayStations. Nor will you
ever see these people. It is in their lack that the harm is done; the
benefits of society accrue, according to the capitalists, only to those
who are already benefiting the most.
>> I suppose the idea would be to come up with an economic system that
>> did not systematically kill so many human beings. Capitalism can be
>> reformed to the point where hardly kills at all (well-regulated
>> capitalism, probably the best system so far) but capitalists never
>> seem to want to do this because by saving lives, they would end up
>> making less money. Any system with that kind of ideology seems pretty
>> immoral to me.
>
>You are crazy.
>
>Go to Miami and visit with a few refugees before you spout off again.
You really do seem to put a lot of weight into hearsay evidence rather
than reason. The 'refugees' are hardly the most impartial of observers.
On the political matter of Cuba, by the way, I'm entirely agnostic. I
just like to see more straight-forward debate, whatever the topic. I'd
just as soon it not be discussed on adm, but things are slow.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft abandoning USB?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:40:45 GMT
Said HIM in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:51:40 -0500;
>
>"Dave Martel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
>> Looks like MS is betting the farm on content protection. Good. The
>> more they bet, the more they lose. :-)
>
>MS never bet the farm on anything. And probably never will.
Other than the monopoly, we presume you mean. Watch what happens when
the stock hits $30.
>And as far as
>content protection goes they could care less.Why would they?
Because Bill Gates has always dreamed of being able to charge people for
using intellectual property. He's described it clearly and directly, if
you've been paying attention. (Start with "The Road Ahead", if you're
catching up. A painful read, but with some very interesting parts.)
"Content protection" is just like "software piracy"; a rubric with which
IP use becomes IP licensing, and thus IP rental.
>They didn't
>even do a very good job making OfficeXP (final release version) locked into
>hardware either like they said they would. MS likes pirating. They secretly
>like software pirates especially. Actions speak WAY louder than words. They
>want their product, especially the OS and Office on every desktop (paid for
>or not) and will never do anything to hinder that. Think about it. Win2K was
>compiled on 12/7/99. Four hours later it hit internet warez groups. I know,
>I was waiting that day. It's the same with all their software. They'll never
>lose, they know how to gain market share every way possible.
If only they'd be content with 'every way legally possible', not that
purposeful gaining of market share isn't the epitome of
"monopolization", outlawed by the Sherman Act more than a hundred years
ago.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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