Linux-Advocacy Digest #242, Volume #33 Sun, 1 Apr 01 01:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:46:31 -0500
Scott Erb wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Scott Erb wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is why Democracy is *ILLEGAL* at the Federal and State level.
> > >
> > > What on earth do you mean?
> >
> > You didn't pay attention in your civics class, did you?
> > Either that, or your teacher was some leftist tool.
>
> Your response is argumentum ad hominem, and thus a fallacy. Anyway,
> I've got a Ph.D. in Political Science, so I obviously have studied quite
> a bit about political systems.
That must be why you are so full of propaganda, and yet miss
things that are completely fucking obvious to 4-year olds,
such as your ridiculous assertion that races don't exist.
To be a fully brainwashed liberal parasite, a PhD is an absolute
necessity...and something as utterly WORTHLESS and non-testable
as Political Science is a bonus for establishing your credentials
as a true-believer.
Tell us...if you studied Political SCIENCE...tell us of all
the repeatable, verifiable experiments which you perform?
After all, that *IS* a necessary pre-requisite for something
to be a science.
No....no...you didn't study Political *Science*...not at all.
You studied Political PROPAGANDA METHODOLOGY.
Fortunately, you are easily defeated by anybody who is half-way
observant of history and the world around him.
>
> > > You do know, don't know, that a Republic can be democratic?
> >
> > That's a contradiction in terms.
> >
> > DEMO-CRACY literally equals "government by the people"
>
> As I explained, a Democratic Republic is NOT a pure democracy where
> majority rules, but a democratic system that is limited by certain
> rules, in our case, a constitution.
FUCK YOU and your LYING PROPAGANDA SPEWING ASS.
There is no "democratic" about it. We are a Republic. More
specifically, we are a CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITED REPUBLIC.
NOWHERE in *ANY* government laws and sort of democratic *anything*
allowed at the State or Federal level.
If you want to run a town, or even a county, as a democracy, you
are fully within your rights to do so.
But the US Constitution, the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, specificies
in UNMISTAKABLE language the the United States is a Republic.
Not a "democratic republic"....just a Republic.
Popular election of Representatives and Senators does *NOT*
a democracy make, nor a Democratic Republic make, so you and
your PROPAGANDA NOISE about the US being a "democratic Republic"
can go take a flying fucking leap off a cliff.
>
> > If you look at the Constitution, it is quite clear that "the people"
> > are specifically PROHIBITED from governing the nation....that is
> > left to the Senate and the House of Representatives....that is,
> > a REPUBLIC (governance by representatives)
>
> That is called representative democracy.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wrong. The United Kingdom is a Representative Democracy.
However, *WE* do not have a parliamentary system, therefore,
we are not a Representative Democracy
By the way, it's best not to contradict yourself within a
mere one paragraph of your previous statement.
To wit, you previously said that the United States is a "democratic
republic", and *NOW* you said that it is a "representative
democracy".
Well, which is it? A Democracy by Representation, or a
Republic by Democracy?
It can't be BOTH ways.
Therefore, I have now demonstrated, by your own definitions,
that you lied at least once.
Of course...the real truth is that you lied twice. Every time
you try to weasel in the word "democracy" to describe our system
of government, your are LYING.
Remember, Asshole, several MILLION American took an oath to defend
the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES against *ALL* enemies, both
foreign and domestic.
People like you, claiming to have a PhD in Political Science, who
then go around telling lies like such as above, qualify, in no
uncertain terms, as ENEMIES OF THE CONSTITUTION.
Make no doubt about it.
Some day...when they you're lined up against the wall, and you
feel the hot, searing pain of bullets ripping through your body,
literally turning the very cells around the entry wound into
a worthless pool of slime in the wound cavity....just remember,
that I warned you.
Oh..and if you think that you should call the government to
come get me...guess what, asshole....I *AM* the government.
Not only that, but *YOUR* *TAX* *DOLLARS* go to express purpose
of training MILLIONS of people just like me, to kill closet-dictator
assholes just like you.
Just remember that the next time you advocate the idea that
individual rights are unnecessary because you can trust the
government to do the right thing.
> People choose their
> representatives, and can hold them accountable at election time. The
> most pure system of representative democracy is the British system,
> which is a parliamentary unitary system (not a Presidential federal
> system).
The United States is NOT a parliamentary system. Therefore,
the premise of your argument is false...which makes the rest
of your argument null and void.
For a PhD in Political Science, how come you're getting your ass
REAMED by an engineer who never even fulfilled the necessary
humanities requirements for a degree?
If I were you, I'd go back to whatever community college you got
your PhD from and demand a fucking refund, because, whatever they
taught you in class, it's quite obvious that you didn't learn jack
shit about the real world (other than how to lie).
>
> -snip-
>
> > > sets certain rules and procedures within which the democratic aspects of
> > > the system function. The term "Liberal Democracy" (used to describe the
> > > US and many European states) means a Democratic Republic limited by
> >
> > The us is NOT a democracy of any type. Whoever told you that the US is
> > a "Liberal Democracy" is either ignorant of what the term means, or
> > filling your head with propaganda. Likewise for Europe. In fact,
>
> Alas, you're the one totally out of step with all theory and scholarship
> on this issue, as well the history of the US.
Said "Scholarship" being the work of your fellow leftist closet-dictators.
Oh no, you, and they, *certainly* don't have an axe to grind...other
than the fact that you got picked on in high school, and now you're
looking for revenge...and the best way YOU can think of is to set
up a form of government where you can micromanage their lives.
Well, fortunately, because leftist assholes like you refuse to serve in
the military...guess what....All the people who actually HAVE THE GUNS...
..you know..the MILITARY GRADE GUNS....the ones with the KEYS TO
THE ARMS ROOMS IN THE ARMORIES...and the KEYS TO THE AMMUNITION
STORAGE POINTS....guess what...***ALL*** of those people are the very
same people who's political views you despise.
The police, the army, the FBI, the CIA...leftist assholes like you
all shirk your responsibilities as a citizen, to do your part to
serve in these organizations...don't you.
Therefore...here's a fucking thought that should help you sleep
soundly...
Those people who's political views you abhor:
THEY're the ones who patrol your streets
THEY're the ones who have the civil disturbance training.
THEY're the ones who run the military
THEY're the ones who fly the air force's combat aircraft
THEY're the ones who crew the tanks
THEY're the ones who man the cannons
THEY're the ones who carry the rifles, machine guns, grenade
launchers, and all of the other parafarnelia of
the infantryman
so DON'T FUCK WITH THEM, because THEY ARE THE ONES WHO STAND
GUARD WHILE YOU SLEEP!
>
> > I know of *NO* nation on the face of the earth which is a democracy.
>
> If you look at any text (I'd recommend Hauss' Comparative Politics, or
> Juerg Steiner's "European Democracies"), you'd see that all what are
> called "democracies" today are Republics of some sort, save perhaps
> Great Britain whose link to the Monarchy gives it a different kind of
> rationale (though it still functions practically as a democracy, albeit
> not limited by a written constitution but agreements between Parliament
> and the Crown, and precident).
>
> No government is a "pure democracy" of majority rule with no limits.
Really? Are you absolutely sure?
> That is obvious.
No, it is not obvious at all.
>
> > > liberal principles (a right to life, liberty, and property, with a focus
> > > on individual freedoms, harkening back to philosophers like Locke, it is
> > > distrustful of a strong central government).
> >
> > None of which has to do with Democracy.
> >
> > Respect for human rights is not democracy. In fact, Democracy is
> > particularly DANGEROUS to human rights. Ever hear of the term
> > "the Tyranny of the Majority" If "the majority" of easily confused
> > and swayed citizens can be rallied to violate your human rights, then
> > exactly how does a democracy connote human rights.
>
> All that is why we have Democratic Republics. That is what the general
> term "democracy" means in current usage. If you're attacking crude pure
> democracy you're just attacking a straw man, your argument has no
> relevance to issues at hand today.
You insist on insertin the word Democracy without showing me ANY
citations that give you a basis for such a claim.
The United States constitution specifically spells out the word
REPUBLIC. The word "Democracy" isn't even mentioned. In fact,
up until the 1930's, the U.S. Army Basic Training handbook, which
is given to each soldier, specifically stated that not only is
the United Staes ***NOT*** a democracy, but also (truthfully,
I might note), that democracy is the greatest threat to the
protection of human rights.
Democracy is the last step before dictatorship.
Ask the Russians.
Ask the Germans.
They know.
>
> > Fortunately, the final protector of the human rights affirmed in the
> > Constitution is the 2nd Amendment (Unconditional right to keep and
> > bear arms) which gives teeth to all of the others.
>
> Of course, a fat lot of good that will do you if you try to claim the US
> government is illegitimate and try to ignore it. The government can
> outescalate you every step of the way.
> cheers, scott
Clue for the clueless...I ***AM*** the government, you asshole.
Specifically, I am part of the very force that you saw will be
"sent to get me"....in fact....I would say that 90% or more of
the infantrymen,...the guys who you think will be "sent out to
get me"....believe the same things as what I stated above.
Putting PhD behind your name doesnt change the fact that we all
know that you're lying out your ass....
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:52:00 -0500
"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Paul Holloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : If you don't have a viable solution, then you're part of the problem.
>
> There is a great solution. It's called the Constitution. It is the
> highest law of the land, and anything contrary to it is null and void.
>
> I'm sworn to defend it, and that is why I oppose those who have
> knowingly and actively violated it for their own personal gain.
>
> Most of those who get labeled as "anti-government" actually favor
> lawful, Constitutional government. What they oppose is the current
> oligarchy masquerading as a democracy, most of whose actions are
> obviously and blatantly unlawful. And on that point at least I'm with
> them 100%.
>
> Joe
And fortunately, the vast majority of the people with the REAL weapons
(i.e. the military) support this view.
Hehehhehe
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:55:44 -0500
Scott Erb wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Communism requires that people should NOT be out for any personnal
> > gain. If everyone always acred in the best interests of 'society' as a
> > whole, then maybe communism could work. But people don't, and communism
> > doesn't.
>
> The irony, of course, is that those who made up the Communist party and
> the governmental elite are those who in a capitalist society would
> probably be the business leaders -- the ambitious, upwardly mobile with
> a desire to get ahead.
No...merely the most corrupt...as the cretins who advocate Communism
usually want all of the power, both political and economic, concentrated
in the same place...so that they can grab both simultaneously.
It's pretty pathetic that someone with a PhD in Political Science
can't figure this out...it's all so very plain to see.
Of course, then again, a PhD in Political Science merely means that
you have successfully learned to regurgitate the nonsense of your
communist faculty in knee-jerk fashion. In other words: 100% BRAINWASHED.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 01:07:27 -0500
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar 2001
> [...]
> >Fascists kill the poor first.
> >Communists kill the rich first.
>
> Meanwhile, Aaron concentrates on anyone who disagrees with him, rich or
> poor.
No. Only those who lie.
Disagreement is ok, as long as you don't tell lies in the process.
>
> >In fascism, industry "owns" the government.
> >In Communism, the government "owns" industry.
>
> Amazingly clueless.
^^^^^^^^
You misspelled "accurate"
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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