Linux-Advocacy Digest #448, Volume #33 Sun, 8 Apr 01 11:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message ("WGAF")
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message ("Mart van de Wege")
What is 99 percent of copyright law? was Re: Richard Stallman (Isaac)
Re: Baseball (Jim Ledford)
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure (Goldhammer)
Re: t. max devlin: kook ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NT is stagnant while Linux explodes ("WGAF")
Read this clueless Linux advocates... ("WGAF")
Re: t. max devlin: kook (Sean)
Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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From: "WGAF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 14:13:02 GMT
"pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Salvador Peralta wrote:
> >
> > I shudder to think about what might happen if you actually took the
> > time to learn your system before favoring us with these jewels of
> > ignorance.
>
>
> You know quite well Salvador!
> a) Beard Growth
> b) Extra strength glasses
> c) Those Corduroy slacks
> d) Dream of PERL or BASH scripts
> e) Attending AA meetings (Administrators Anonymous)
> f) Start scratching Windows Installation CD's for fun
> g) Actively volunteer for taking minutes during LUG meetings and
> producing PHP scripts to display them in a variety of interesting garish
> colour schemes.
>
> ...and finally...
>
> h) Installing an early version of slackware to reminisce with the ways
> things "used to be in the good 'old days"
i) Pocket protectors
j) Do the "Dew"
k) Sell the answering machine on Ebay (Useless...)
l) Refuse to attend CA meetings (Computer Anonymous)
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 16:19:41 +0200
In article <i2_z6.93564$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "WGAF"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <2oRz6.92517$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "WGAF"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> >> Oh, maybe you've only got a text-mode system. Then you'd have to
>> >> use the "get tarred directory" feature that most Unix ftp servers
>> >> have:
>> >>
>> >> ncftp ftp.kde.org
>> >> cd ...some long path...
>> >> get RPMS rpms.tar
>> >
>> > Snip...
>> >
>> >> Like RPM? I installed KDE 2.1.1 (upgrade from 2.1) by doing this:
>> >>
>> >> $ for i in qt kdebase kdelibs kdegames ...; do rpm -U $i/*; done
>> >
>> > As oppose to downloading a single executable, running it once the
>> > dowload finished and it's done? Linux really shines in that respect,
>> > doesn't it?
>> >
>> > Otto
>> >
>> >
>> Tell me again how all those Windows viruses propagated? Isn't this very
>> mindset of blindly clicking on downloaded binaries to blame? If the
>> administrators show this behaviour, how then can they blame the users
>> when they click on yet another .vbs?
>
> Yet another post which tries to make a different subject out of the
> questionable KDE upgrade method. You do admit that the upgrade path for
> KDE sucks, right?
>
>
>
Well,
I'd say that 'apt-get install task-kde' is a lot simpler than just
downloading some rpm's, but the argument presented was that even Joe
Average should be able to make a multiple selection in a GUI to download
the stuff and then type a simple command to install.
So while I have some issues with the way most rpm-based distros handle
this, I think it's perfectly valid to say that it is not difficult at
all.
As to my changing the subject, it was you who brought up that detestable
Windows habit of just downloading a binary and blindly clicking on it. I
admit it is easier, for those windows viruses to spread that is.
Mart
--
Write in C, write in C,
Write in C, yeah, write in C.
Only wimps use BASIC, Write in C.
http://www.orca.bc.ca/spamalbum/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Isaac)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: What is 99 percent of copyright law? was Re: Richard Stallman
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 14:07:07 GMT
On 06 Apr 2001 22:38:49 +0000, Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In gnu.misc.discuss, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Nothing needs to be copied to violate copyright. That's what 99% of
>> the copyright law is all about.
>
>If this is true does it not indicate a fundamental flaw in copyright
>law? Going back to first principles, what is copyright if not "the
>right to control copying"? So copyright law has no right (pun
>intended) to concern itself with anything other than copying. If it is
>true that 99% of copyright law is "off-topic" then is it not in urgent
>need of reform to bring it back "on-topic"?
Mr. Devlin's statement may be true depending on how one does the
counting, but it is a little misleading. Copyright law gives the
copyright holder a number of exclusive rights which include the
right to control copying, distribution, creation of derivative works,
and public performance of the work. There are some other specialized
rights, but for software that list is just about it. Copyright law
also defines some exceptions to those exclusive rights.
The discussion we're having concerns mostly copying, distribution,
and creation of derivative works and not much else. A major
point of the discussion has centered around whether a derivative
work can be created without doing any copying. So I'd estimate
that 99% of the law that Max is referring to is irrelevant.
The question is whether you create a derivative work as defined here
without doing any copying of a preexisting work.
A ''derivative work'' is a work based upon one or more
preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement,
dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound
recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any
other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or
adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations,
elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent
an original work of authorship, is a ''derivative work''.
With respect to dynamically linked works, the FSF reaches their conclusion
a little differently than does Max. First they claim that if you distribute
a program that can link only to a GPL'd library, that when you distribute
the program even without the library, you are really still distributing
the program+library. Next they say that the program+library is a derivative
work which they have the right to object to distributing.
Two things to note about such a position are:
1) The position does not require the program itself to be a derivative
work. If the FSF is correct, it really would not matter whether the
library or the program was created first. They are claiming that
you are distributing their program.
2) Even if the library+program was not a derivative work, but a
compilation (which is what IMO the law suggests), the FSF argument is
unaltered. They could still claim that when you distribute the program
you are really distributing the library. In the case of collective
works, the argument sounds a little less plausible to lay persons
because we are familiar with literary compilations, but the argument
has the same basis in copyright law.
I think the FSF is trying to work around a position that is completely
described in the statute. For that reason their bizarre reasoning is
unconvincing. Section 103 of Title 17 says in part:
(b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends
only to the material contributed by the author of such work, as
distinguished from the preexisting material employed in the work,
and does not imply any exclusive right in the preexisting
material. The copyright in such work is independent of, and does
not affect or enlarge the scope, duration, ownership, or
subsistence of, any copyright protection in the preexisting
material.
This is what is supposed to happen with a derivative work or a
compilation. The scope of the original copyright does not get increased
to include control the new material, the copyright owner of the base work
just gets his or her say about copying, distribution, etc of the base
work and not the portions of the compilation or derivative work made
by others. I believe that a judge who reads this will simply ask
whether a program writer copied or distributed the library, and if
that was not done by the program writer, the judge will wonder what
the fuss is about.
Isaac
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From: Jim Ledford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:25:08 -0400
tokeman wrote:
>
>
> microsoft's total domination of the desktop is the result of windows.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
leaves just enough room for one lamp and a coffee cup.
Jim Ledford
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goldhammer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 14:25:38 GMT
On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 13:56:22 GMT,
The Ghost In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Goldhammer
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sure. With such definitions, a laundry-list
>>can be considered a database.
>
>A small one. :-)
<2 Gb?
>>Then I wonder why some people think Linux
>>is limited to <2Gb files. It must be because
>>they think Linux, like all OSs, only run on
>>x86s.
>
>It's a limitation, admittedly. I think it's a
>combination of factors. It's easy enough to work
>around in source code, if one remembers
>the right combination of -DXYZZY and such:
>
>g++ -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D__USE_FILE_OFFSET64
>
>Of course, this is going to make no sense to those
>not well-versed in compiling applications. :-)
AFAIK, ext2 supports files up to 16Eb. The reason
why files >2 Gb on 32-bit machines require the
'bigfile' patch has to do with the size of int
on a 32-bit machine. But linux on an Alpha doesn't
have any 2 Gb "limit". Therefore, the 2 Gb "limit"
cannot be considered limitation of Linux. It simply
isn't, unless one argues that Linux on an Alpha isn't
really Linux.
I've got some short notes by Alexander Viro on this
issue, stashed away somewhere. He explains it quite
precisely. It might take me some time to dig them up,
but if you're interested, I'll try.
--
Don't think you are. Know you are.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: t. max devlin: kook
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:30:53 -0400
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Anonymous
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sun, 8 Apr 2001 06:30:34 -0600
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Anything with a command line is easier to learn, of course, because it
> >> is simpler
> >
> >i just wanted to see that again
> > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> There are advantages to the command line, but ease of learning
> is not among them (though it depends in part on the complexity
> thereof, the design of the GUI, and to a large part on the
> documentation available using 'man' or 'info').
>
> A well-designed GUI can be very easy, especially if it has common
> elements; this is what makes Windows so powerful. (Mac OS, too,
> as it turns out, although the details are different, and, to
> a slightly lesser extent, widget sets on X; the main problem there
> is cut and paste, and resize feedback.)
>
> Everyone understands:
>
> - moving the mouse pointer
> - clicking, dragging, and dropping
> - double-clicking, dragging, and dropping icons
> - folder icons as directories, document icons as files
> - top-mounted window pulldown menus
> - keyboard shortcuts
> - buttons with balloon help
> - text entry controls, both multiline and single-line
> - Control/C, Control/X, and Control/V
> - scrollbars
> - scrolling lists (both horizontal and vertical)
> - drop down comboboxes (which are actually a combination of button,
> menu, and list)
Actually, not. Ever see a true newbie in front of a Windows machine?
They are just as stymied by a GUI as they are by a command line.
>
> Windows does have advantages. However, MS may be frittering
> away some of them; the latest Windows appear to have movable
> menubars. What use is that? Detach a menubar from the window,
> and it becomes a floating menubar -- um, now what app did
> that floating menubar correspond to?! (Netscape and GTK have
> the same capability, so it's not limited to Windows.)
>
> And then there's the famous gorgeously slow disappearing and
> scrolling out menus. Waste of CPU cycles, IMO. What's
> next, rapidly rotating dialog boxes a la old filmreels and cartoons? :-)
> At least balloon help serves a purpose, especially since some of
> those icons aren't exactly intuitive. Even pulldown menus
> are an aid to documentation; they show the capabilities of the
> program -- which makes the "hide less recently used" option
> on pulldown menus in Windows a bit puzzling. Then again,
> one can make a case either way.
>
> The horizontal scrolling file requester is an abomination, but
> we're used to it now, even to the point of duplicating it,
> bodge for bodge, in the Wine project -- although that may
> be because I'm using it with Win95 and the Microsoft DLLs are
> setting that up.
>
> One other advantage with Windows -- IE has instantaneous refresh
> during resize; Netscape does not. This feedback is very helpful
> to the user who wants to see the web page just so, and may explain
> in part why IE is so popular in the first place.
>
> Most X window managers rubberband during resize, so this facility
> may not even be available. I am tempted to write one that treats
> X resize events similarly to X move events, but I fear the performance
> in many apps may not be there -- and it will take me awhile,
> as it's not my speciality.
>
> Compared to all this, the command line is extremely dry and
> uninteresting, although improvements have been made there, too;
> older systems don't have:
>
> - filename completion
> - command completion
> - filename and command listing on double-TAB
> - arrow-key history and editing (although some used VI-style keys)
>
> Heck, HP-UX can still come up using @ for linekill and # for backspace.
> Arcane? You bet your sweet bippy. But the users have changed;
> we're more demanding and fickle now.
>
> >
> >men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> >more even than death
> >- bertrand russell
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 1d:22h:12m actually running Linux.
> Hi. I'm a signature virus.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "WGAF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT is stagnant while Linux explodes
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 14:34:42 GMT
"Johan Kullstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "WGAF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "667 Neighbor of the Beast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > 41% is not rules. Anyway, since Linux is is Unix, let us combine the
> > > Unix and Linux scores. Now it reads:
> >
> > Except for the fact that Unix is not Linux and one shell not combine
them
> > into one. Unless one knows nothing about either of the OSes....
>
> while legally, linux is not allowed to call itself unix (which is a
> trademark of the open group), in practice, linux is a unix.
>
> in the language of the drug-war, unix is a gateway drug to linux and
> vice-versa.
>
> the first big misunderstand is that linux is unix; the second big
> misunderstanding is that linux is not unix.
As I said, "Unless one knows nothing about either of the OSes...."
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From: "WGAF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Read this clueless Linux advocates...
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 14:37:23 GMT
Luckily for Linux, there are people who can see behind the hype.....
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/01/12/index3a.html
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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: t. max devlin: kook
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 14:42:32 GMT
Ghost
Thanks for a thoughtful summary of the advantages of GUIs.
However, let's not make the "one size fits all" mistake.
Examples:
- I've seen lot's of evidence that some users of GUI
wordprocessors are much more interested in form than
they are in content. There's a lot of wonderful writing
out there which was done with steel pens or manual
typewriters.
- When you check in for your next flight, take a look at
3270 character-based technology screens.....only a tiny
step up from a console session. It's efficient and fast.
- READ.ME files make a lot of sense in ascii. Text-based
email makes similar sense - it works on almost any
technology (although I'd prefer not to use PROFS!).
There is clearly a place for GUI technology.
[Back OT] M$ have made the "one size fits all" mistake of
attempting to eliminate the console completely by embedding
the GUI in the OS. This makes no sense (see above), and it
also makes their product huge, poorly structured and
unreliable. If I have to choose between spiffy resizing in
IE against a more reliable layered software approach in
UNIX or Linux, the latter two win every time.
Sean
====
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> <snip>
> But the users have changed; we're more demanding and
> fickle now.
> <snip>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:40:53 -0400
Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett) writes:
>
> > On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:14:41 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Sun Tzu, you ain't.
> > >
> > >Twisting and writhing in the wind. Anything, ANYTHING rather than
> > >just "answering the damn question."
> > >
> >
> > OK, OK. I know. Kulkis is using rn on a Sun 3/60 running SunOS 4.2.
> > He's rounded up the rn source and re-compiled it to look like
> > Mozilla on a Win98 box, although he swears up and down that he
> > is running SuSE linux on a AMD 500MHZ machine.
>
> His client is a Commodore64 with a 1670 modem dialing tymnet to run
> his hacked-up version of QuantumLink.
>
Hey!
That's a seekrit.
> Honest.
>
> --
> It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:42:23 -0400
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Rob Robertson wrote:
> >
> > Mathew wrote:
> > >
> > > On 4 Apr 2001, Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Rob Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you for the excellent reminder of what America is fighting, Mr.
> > > > Chaihorsky.
> > >
> > > Who are you fighting?
> >
> > I said 'what', not 'who', you little pinhead.
> >
> > The 'what' that I and many other true Americans* are fighting is creeping
> > socialism, insidious Marxist propaganda, and the rise of totalitarianism.
> > We are fighting the willful ignorance of ideologically-blindered leftists
> > who would destroy freedom and self-determination in America in order to
> > institute rule by a global elite.
> >
> > The 'who' that I'm fighting are lying, disingenuous frauds who would seek
> > to indoctrinate young college-age kids with nanny-state dogma after they've
> > turned their minds to mush with relativist claptrap, as well as moronic
> > teen-agers from Guam who don't know how to put one concept in front of
> > another.
> >
> > > > Rob,
> > > >
> > > > If there is a way for me to thank America, to whose shores I came 14 years
> > > > ago, fresh out of Communism slavery, brougt up by the damn "village" of
> > > > other slaves as an atheist, poor, but hopeful, opressed, but optimistic -
> > > > for her justice without pity, generosity without handouts, kindness without
> > > > charity, equality without equalness - my way would be to help her fight the
> > > > most outrageous attempt to enslave her sons and daughters and put back into
> > > > bondage her ideals and hopes.
> > > > This will be a bloody and heavy fight. You have not seen anything yet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Alex Chaihorsky
> > > > Reno, NV
> >
> > _
> > Rob Robertson
> >
> > * "True Americans" are those of all ages, colors, creeds, etc,... who hold
> > to the principle that all people are born free, and that human dignity
> > is served by defending our rights to life, liberty, and property. That
> > is why Mr. Chaihorsky is a True American, whereas Scott Erb is merely
> > a walking viral colony emulating the form and style of a human being.
>
> Re: Erb... probably a victim of revisionist historians.
>
Erb *IS* revisionist historian
> --
> V
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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