Linux-Advocacy Digest #616, Volume #33 Sat, 14 Apr 01 22:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: A mentality problem of linux programmer. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Something cool in gcc ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: So much for modules in Linux! (Tim Hanson)
Re: Communism ("billh")
Great ESR Interview ("Adam Warner")
Re: Linux = CHOICE! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: To Eric FunkenBush (Donn Miller)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS and ISP's ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A mentality problem of linux programmer.
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:20:32 -0400
Charles Lyttle wrote:
>
> JLI wrote:
> >
> > When someone complained in this group that something is too
> > difficult to do in Unix, the answer is mostly like "you are too dump",
> > or "this guy is paid by Microsoft". This indicates a foundament
> > mentality problem of linux programmer. Here is another example
> > I encountered recently in our company.
> >
> > We have just finished a commercial product (a C/C++ SDK) and the
> > setup procedure went through quite smoothly. The only thing we don't
> > like is that you have to set two or three environment variables
> > manually after the setup procedure. So we asked our unix programmer
> > whether we can set the environment variables automatically during the
> > setup procedure. The answer we got is "if someone doesn't know how
> > to set an environment variable on unix, he should not program on
> > unix, do they?". I didn't respond directly, but my response would be "if we
> > don't know or want to do such simple work for our client, we should not
> > sell software, do we?".
> >
> > Many Linux programmers are hoppyiest not professionals. They program
Most windows programmers don't even qualify as hobbiests.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Something cool in gcc
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:25:02 -0400
Chronos Tachyon wrote:
>
> On Sat 14 Apr 2001 10:51, mlw wrote:
>
> [Snip]
> >
> > Oops, yes, that is right. I was not talking about the return type, I was
> > talking about the structure of the function, lacking the return was a
> > typo. (The compiler would have gotten it)
> >
> > void function(char *str)
> > {
> > printf("%s\n", str);
> > }
> >
>
> Yep, much better :-). I'd figured it was probably a typo in the first
> place, but what the heck.
>
> > How's that? It is a valid function in both C and C++.
> >
> > One need not go overboard with iostreams and crap like that in C++ if they
> > desire not.
> >
> > My point is C++ is a superset of C.
> >
>
> Well, it does still bring up the interesting point that the following code
> snippet is legal C but not C++:
>
> function(char *str)
> {
> printf("%s\n", str);
> return 0;
> }
>
> But that is, of course, just nitpicking.
Close.
int function(char *str)
{
printf("%s\n", str);
return 0;
}
>
> --
> Chronos Tachyon
> Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
> Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
> [Reply instructions: My real domain is "echo <address> | cut -d. -f6,7"]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
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Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:31:39 -0700
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: So much for modules in Linux!
Jim Richardson wrote:
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:06:35 GMT,
> Pete Goodwin, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
> >Chad Everett wrote:
> >
> >> After reading many of Peter's posts I am starting to seriously doubt
> >> that anyone at SuSE, in reality, actually told him to use boot.local.
> >> Maybe the name boot.local came up somehow and he took off with it.
> >
> >Yeah right.
> >
> >They sent me an EMail.
> >
> >Here it is in its entirety:
> >
> >===============================================================
> >Dear Mr. Goodwin,
> >
> >Many thanks for your enquiry to SuSE Installation Support.
> >You wrote:
> >
> >> I have two problems with networking.
> >>
> >> Firstly, DHCP appears to disturb my two network cards and assigns the
> >> wrong driver to each card, so the networks are down. I have read your
> >> support article about two NIC's but moving DHCP later in startup
> >> didn't solve the problem. I'm currently starting DHCP by hand and it
> >> appears to work.
> >
> >
> >Your enquiry goes beyond the scope of Installation Support. This support
> >is intended primarily as a help to get a basic system up and running. (see
> >appendix A of the handbook). We hope you will understand that advanced
> >topics such as the one your question involves cannot be answered in full
> >detail.
> >
> >If the manual starting if DHCP works, then you can add a line with that
> >command to the /etc/init.d/boot.local file.
> >
> >> Secondly, if I boot Windows 98 SE first (this is a dual boot machine),
> >> then the NIC connected to my cable modem is assigned a MAC address of
> >> 00:00:00:00:00:00 on booting Linux - this does not work with my Cable
> >> Modem.
> >
> >
> >I don't see how this can be solved apart from switching the computer off
> >before you boot into Linux.
> >
> >
> >Best regards
>> >--
> >Pete
> >Running on SuSE 7.1, Linux 2.4, KDE 2.1
> >Kylix: the way to go!
>
> I suppose it has changed since SuSE 7.0 and all previous versions I have used
> (6.0 through 6.4) but boot.local is not in /etc/init.d, it's in /sbin/init.d.
> Can anyone else using 7.1 confirm this? If it has indeed changed, ok, if not,
> then Pete's claim is rather suspect...
It has changed, to conform to standards. All scripts called by init are
in /etc/init.d. There is a man page which is duplicated in a README,
(which I don't feel the least bit guilty about posting, since it is
shorter than Kulkis' .sig.
INIT.D(7) The SuSE boot concept INIT.D(7)
NAME
INIT.D - The SuSE boot concept
SYNOPSIS
/etc/init.d/*
/etc/rc.config
DESCRIPTION
The scripts for controlling the system are placed in
/etc/init.d/ (they have been moved accordingly to the
Linux Standard Base (LSB) specification). These scripts
are executed directly or indirectly by /sbin/init, the
father of all processes. The configuration of /sbin/init
is given by the file /etc/inittab (see inittab(5)).
At boot time, the boot level master script
/etc/init.d/boot is called to initialise the system (e.g.
file system check, ...). It also executes some hardware
init scripts linked into /etc/init.d/boot.d/. Then it
calls /etc/init.d/boot.local, which executes the local
commands.
After system startup, /sbin/init will normally switch on
the default run level given in /etc/inittab. It calls the
run level master script /etc/init.d/rc to start or stop
services provided by the other scripts under /etc/init.d/.
To control the services of a run level, the corresponding
scripts are linked into run level directories
/etc/init.d/rc<X>.d/, where <X>=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,S is the run
level number.
There are two kinds of symbolic link: start links, which
are called when entering a run level, and stop links,
which are called when leaving a run level. Note that each
service in the run levels 2, 3, 4, and 5 consists of a
start and a stop link. Within SuSE boot concept a differ�
ential link scheme is used to be able to change a runlevel
in comparision with the former level.
To avoid redundant starts when changing run levels only
those services are started, which have no start link in
the previous run level. And to avoid redundant stops when
changing run levels, only those services are stopped which
have no start link in the current level. To control this
behaviour, the names of the scripts are added on the names
of the start and stop links.
To control the order of service starts and stops, the
start and stop links include a number in their link name.
The system configuration file /etc/rc.config contains most
of the variables used to configure the installed services.
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INIT.D(7) The SuSE boot concept INIT.D(7)
These variables can easily be changed by YaST or by using
an editor. After using an editor, the script /sbin/SuSEc�
onfig must be called to distribute the settings into the
system.
Some details
The script /etc/init.d/lpd starts or stops the line
printer daemon for the printing service, according to the
flag used:
/etc/init.d/lpd start
and
/etc/init.d/lpd stop
To do this automatically in run level 3, this script is
linked into /etc/init.d/rc3.d/ with these two symbolic
links
/etc/init.d/rc3.d/S20lpd -> ../lpd
and
/etc/init.d/rc3.d/K20lpd -> ../lpd
The corresponding link with the letter S is used to start
a service. For the printing service the number between the
letter S and the name should be greater than the number of
the start link of the network service. The corresponding
link with the letter K is used to stop a service. The num�
ber of the stop link for the printing service should be
less than that of the stop link for the network service so
that the printer daemon is stopped before shutting down
the network service.
Run levels and their services
0 This level is used for halting the system. The only
valid service for this level is the script halt,
which is linked into /etc/init.d/rc0.d/. The
script halt executes /etc/init.d/halt.local. Spe�
cials system issues for halt or reboot should be
added there.
6 This level is used for rebooting the system. The
only valid service for this level is the script
reboot, which is linked into /etc/init.d/rc6.d/.
The script reboot executes /etc/init.d/halt.local.
Specials system issues for halt or reboot should be
added there.
S This mode is used to switch from boot phase into
single user mode. The last valid service for this
mode is the script single, which is linked into
/etc/init.d/rcS.d/. In this mode you have only one
console.
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INIT.D(7) The SuSE boot concept INIT.D(7)
1 Accordingly to the Linux Standard Base (LSB) speci�
fication this runlevel is used to switch from nor�
mal runlevel into single user mode. This is dif�
ferent from former SuSE Linux versions!
2 The run level 2 is without network. Note that on
some other systems this is identical with the sin�
gle user mode. This run level can have more than
one virtual console.
3 The run level 3 is with network. This run level is
for server stations not automatically running X.
5 The level 5 is with network and xdm(1). You should
have a configured and perfectly running X Window
System for this work station run level.
4 The run level 4 is not (yet) used.
/etc/init.d/skeleton
This script is a model for writing your own. You
can use insserv(8) to include your own script into
a run level.
FILES
/etc/init.d/*
/etc/init.d/boot
/etc/init.d/boot.local
/etc/init.d/halt
/etc/init.d/halt.local
/etc/init.d/rc
/etc/init.d/reboot
/etc/init.d/skeleton
/etc/init.d/single
/etc/init.d/boot.d/S[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/init.d/rc0.d/{K,S}[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/init.d/rc1.d/{K,S}[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/init.d/rc2.d/{K,S}[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/init.d/rc3.d/{K,S}[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/init.d/rc4.d/{K,S}[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/init.d/rc5.d/{K,S}[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/init.d/rc6.d/{K,S}[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/init.d/rcS.d/{K,S}[0-9][0-9]*
/etc/inittab
/etc/rc.config
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:36:00 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > I know enough. I know you are a "war-hero" wannabe that lies about his
> > accomplishments and awards in the US Army. As far as you are concerned,
> > that's all the knowledge anyone needs, KuKuNut.
>
> So says the man who has never recieved combat pay.
Firstly, you idiotic "war-hero" wannabe, the special pay is called "hostile
fire pay" or "imminent danger pay" on the LES (not "combat pay"). Since you
claim to have been in a combat zone and drawn this pay you ought to know
this, wannabe. Pathetic, KuKu. Just pathetic.
Secondly, you have no clue as to how many months I've drawn hostile fire
pay/imminent danger pay, when, or for duty where. Nor do you know in which
years or for how much of my income I've used the Combat Zone Exclusion to
Taxes. Get a clue, KuKuNut, you've both lied so much and proven yourself
such an idiot, no one believes a thing you say anymore.
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Great ESR Interview
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:36:39 +1200
http://www.business2.com/content/channels/technology/2001/04/13/29946
Eric Raymond answers these hard-hitting questions (paraphrased):
- Which major corporation is most in tune with the open source movement?
- What will Microsoft look like 5 years from now?
- How much does it matter who takes over Linux?
- What's the most important issue in the OSS community this year?
- Which stereotype annoys ESR the most.
Direct responses without any equivocation.
Regards,
Adam
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux = CHOICE!
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:39:37 +1200
That is laughable. I hate the configuration tool and shit-house
packages included with Redhat, however, I like the configuration tools
and packages included with SuSE Linux 7.1, hence, I can move from one
vendor to another without any problems.
As for you snide comment, "That's because with Windows it just works and
there's no need to hop vendors", I booted my copy of SuSE Linux,
followed the wizard, computer rebooted, all configured. No needing to
drop into CLI or anything, so I don't know what your problem is because
Linux works straight out of the box for me. Some people prefer using
Redhat, whilst there are, what I call, "Linux Purists" who like using
Debian. Its all about what you prefer working with rather than what
Bill Gates wants you to work with.
Matthew Gardiner
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> > True, and isn't it great when a distro makes a really fucking awful
> > distro you have the opportunity to goto another vendor, and you can keep
> > changing until you find one that suites your needs. Hmm, I wonder if
> > the Wintel clan can do that, NOPE!
>
> That's because with Windows it just works and there's no need to hop
> vendors.
>
> --
> Pete
> Running on SuSE 7.1, Linux 2.4, KDE 2.1
> Kylix: the way to go!
--
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operater from Hell)
If you donot like it go [#rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
Running SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro w/ Kernel 2.4.2
SuSE, the best of German engineering, now in software form :)
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Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:40:10 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To Eric FunkenBush
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> It works in g++ because g++ doesn't have this bug (of course they have no
> namespace support at all, but that's a different story).
Namespace support has been in g++ for quite some time. In fact, I
believe egcs had some form of namespace support since 1999, but that was
before egcs was merged with the "regular" gcc. So, assuming you don't
want to be pedantic and assume that egcs != gcc, namespace support has
been in g++ for at least 2 years now.
If you have gcc 2.95.2 installed, it should have all of this, including
most of the namespace-ized C++ headers, <cstdio>, <iostream>, without
the ".h" extension. Go ahead, try to compile something with namespaces
on gcc. Show us the output of "gcc -v" if it doesn't work. Don't
forget to include the proper headers, though...
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:40:35 -0400
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sat, 14 Apr 2001 01:28:26 -0400
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Chad Everett wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:09:49 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chad Everett
> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote
> >> >on 12 Apr 2001 17:09:51 -0500
> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >>On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:23:02 -0600, Jerry Coffin
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>>says...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>[ ... ]
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Yes, and you can construct bad trees that require
> >> >>>> exponential time to search -- in reality it rarely
> >> >>>> happens [/me sticks his neck out on that assertation].
> >> >>>
> >> >>>You're not really sticking it out very far -- testing with
> >> >>>generational scavengers seems to agree quite closely.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> If you view a program as a tree of objects,
> >> >>>> stemming from the root object, you would end up with a
> >> >>>> tree and not a list, albeit with circular references.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Which is to say that it's a graph, not a tree. A tree would be an
> >> >>>acyclic graph, where this is a more general graph that may contain
> >> >>>cycles.
> >> >>
> >> >>A tree is an acyclic, connected graph, not just acyclic.
> >> >
> >> >Pedant point: so is a DAG. :-)
> >> >
> >> >A tree needs to include the requirement that nodes aren't entered
> >> >more than once (they can be exited as many times as required, however).
> >> >
> >>
> >> This is not a requirement of a tree. It is a property of a tree when
> >> it is explored. A tree is an acyclic, connected graph...period.
> >>
> >> Hey this is fun! :)
> >
> >Chad is correct.
>
> This is getting very off topic (so what else is new? :-) ) but
> I fail to see how
>
> A ----------> B ----------> D
> \ /
> ----------> C ------>---
>
> can be a tree....?
Because node D violates the definition.
Other than the root, Each node in a tree is pointed to by exactly ONE other node.
> Granted, one can spit the node D into two
> images: D1 and D2, but I'm obviously missing something very obvious
> here (this sort of thing also comes up in inheritance diagrams in C++
> and can get ugly fast).
Any tree can be searched, with no repeat visits to any node, by
standard tree-searching algorithms.
Node D violates the initial assumptions of all tree-searching algorithms,
thus, D's relationship to nodes B AND C makes the graph a non-tree.
>
> [.sigsnip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 8d:07h:59m actually running Linux.
> I was asleep at the switch the rest of the time.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS and ISP's
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:42:44 -0400
JS PL wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> > Microsoft itself has not challenged Judge Jackson's "Findings of FACT"
> >
> > Therefore it is a LEGAL FACT that Microsoft is a monopoly.
> >
> > Hope that helps, MORON.
>
> Looks to me like it's one of two major arguments being heard in the appeal,
> moron.
>
> <paste>
> THE COURT: Because of the breadth and complexity and importance of the
> issues on appeal, the arguments in this case will be heard over the course
> of two days. Today the Court will hear arguments on monopoly maintenance
> and the tying issues. Counsel will be allowed 75 minutes per side on the
> monopoly maintenance issue and 45 minutes per side on the tying issue.
> The Court may take a short break after the appellant's opening
>argument,
> and then we are likely to take a recess for lunch at the conclusion of the
> arguments on monopoly maintenance. We will reconvene promptly at the
> conclusion of any break.
> Tomorrow, the Court will hear arguments on the attempted
>monopolization,
> relief and conduct of the trial and extrajudicial statements.
> We are now ready to hear arguments.
> </paste>
>
> Here's a question for you, moron.
> Since you HAVE NOT CHALLENGED (by providing proof to the contrary) the
> assertion that your not an Admin of any kind, and only use Windows 98, and
> are lying about it. Does that PROVE that you are therefore a lying?
Look, martha...he still can't see it.
Heheheheh
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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