Linux-Advocacy Digest #703, Volume #33 Thu, 19 Apr 01 15:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("JS PL")
Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (John Ridley)
Re: Why Bill Gates Is Ramming His Thick Meaty Cock Up Torvald's Weak Mincing Ass
(Peter Hayes)
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism, Communist
propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) (Mathew)
Re: What's the point (Dave Martel)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Brian Langenberger)
Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (Debbie the Gruesome)
Re: What's the point ("spicerun")
Re: What's the point (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Mathew)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Martin Eden)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Jim)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Wade Blazingame")
Re: IE ("MH")
Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company (Peter Hayes)
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From: "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:40:49 -0400
As hard as it may be to believe, even in Washington, price and quality have
some value. When a reporter asked why her agency uses Microsoft products,
Reno explained that her procurement policy is to "buy the best equipment
possible at the lowest price possible to benefit the American taxpayers."
That's quite a concession. The purpose of American anti-trust law is not to
prop up corporations that are losing market share, but to protect consumers.
If Windows is the "best" available operating system at the "lowest possible
price," it's hard to see what good it does Microsoft customers to split the
company in half.
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From: John Ridley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:39:31 -0400
I re-read my post, and I can see that you probably thought I was
calling someone in this thread a nazi. I wasn't, I was just saying
words to invoke the "end of thread" trigger. Sorry I wasn't clear.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:12:30 -0500, "Dreamspinner3"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hmmm....never knew that, and I have been posting to Usenet for years. You
>are right. I will drop this thread now. Thanks.
>
>"John Ridley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> By the way, apparently you didn't get the joke. It's an unwritten
>> rule of Usenet that all flamewars eventually come around to the point
>> where someone mentions either Hitler or Nazis. At that point, the
>> thread is usually considered over.
>>
>
>
=====
John Ridley
http://ridley.dyndns.org
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Bill Gates Is Ramming His Thick Meaty Cock Up Torvald's Weak
Mincing Ass
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:28:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:26:39 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Stefan Ohlsson wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:34:44 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> > >In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Kelsey Bjarnason
> > >>Isn't this where Godwin's Law steps in? :)
> > >Not necessarily; I think it's only an issue if one calls one's
> > >debating opponent a Nazi or something. Since I haven't done that,
> > >it doesn't apply. :-)
> > >
> > Well, actually it does: (http://iclub.nsu.ru/jargon/frames/G/godwins-law.html)
> > -->
> > "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
> > involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many
> > groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned
> > the Nazis has automatically lose whatever argument was in progress.
> > Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound
> > on thread length in those groups.
>
> BZZZZZZZZT! WRong.
>
>
> It's not "mentioning Nazis"...it's accusing your opponent of BEING Hitler.
Precisely. Otherwise the topic of Hitler, the Nazis, the Third Reich, the
extermination of the Jews, the conduct of WW2, and a whole host of other
topics like the development of audio tape recording couldn't be discussed,
That'd be Usenet censorship, and we don't want that, do we?
But call your opponent a NetNazi and you lose...
Peter
--
Microsoft innovation number 476 :-
Take a product X and P on it.
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Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism,
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:37:17 +1000
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Carman wrote:
> >
> > Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:13:36 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Mysterion wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> But who the hell WANTS to live and work in Detroit?
> > > >
> > > >Great money
> > > >Low cost of living.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The same could be said for Saudi Arabia.
> >
> > Carman wrote:
> > Saudi Arabia doesn't allow concealed carry though.
>
> Ever see what they do to hoodlums who would cause anybody to need them?
>
> thieves get their right hand CHOPPED OFF.
> Muggers and murders are put to death BY STONING.
>
> And quick-and-speedy trial is the rule. Most sentances are carried
> out within one month of arrest.
>
> Swift and sure punishment for crimes makes for a very low-crime society.
Nad you were complaining about Japan being a Fascist country.
If you get caught with a women that is not your wife,you can go to jail
for this;the women might be put to death.
The Saudis are known to rape a good number of their filipina( domestic
workers also and of course these women have no reprise what so ever.
Gosh,you will feel right at home in Saud Arabia.
>
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:38:05 -0600
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:20:42 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Question is, why use ext2fs
>when a better alternative is already available?
Because Norton Ghost works with ext2 but not with ReiserFS.
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:51:51 +0000 (UTC)
In comp.os.linux.advocacy JS PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: As hard as it may be to believe, even in Washington, price and quality have
: some value. When a reporter asked why her agency uses Microsoft products,
: Reno explained that her procurement policy is to "buy the best equipment
: possible at the lowest price possible to benefit the American taxpayers."
: That's quite a concession. The purpose of American anti-trust law is not to
: prop up corporations that are losing market share, but to protect consumers.
: If Windows is the "best" available operating system at the "lowest possible
: price," it's hard to see what good it does Microsoft customers to split the
: company in half.
Now there's some strange logic...
If the DoJ believes Microsoft has a monopoly on desktop OSes, then,
by extension, they should also believe there are no alternatives to
using Microsoft OSes on their desktops by virtue of that monopoly.
If the DoJ believes Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly on desktop OSes,
they could concede there are alternatives to use other than Microsoft's,
and then there would be no point in trying to prosecute Microsoft as
a harmful monopoly (since, if they aren't a monopoly, they can't be
a harmful one).
(Whether or not any of us believe Microsoft is a monopoly, a harmful
monopoly, or that there are alternatives to their OSes is beside the
point - it's all a matter of the DoJ being consistent with their
assertions, which seems to be the case here.)
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From: Debbie the Gruesome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:15:03 -0700
It's called Godwin's Law, and the catch is: you can't
just say Nazi or Hitler. It has to be used in a real
sentence, the usual form is either calling someone
a Nazi or comparing them to Hitler.
In article <9bmv7l$a76f7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hmmm....never knew that, and I have been posting to Usenet for years. You
> are right. I will drop this thread now. Thanks.
>
> "John Ridley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > By the way, apparently you didn't get the joke. It's an unwritten
> > rule of Usenet that all flamewars eventually come around to the point
> > where someone mentions either Hitler or Nazis. At that point, the
> > thread is usually considered over.
> >
>
>
>
>
1
--
---
Debbie the Gruesome [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Poodles are space aliens who think they've disguised
themselves as dogs." - Paghat the Ratgirl
http://www.drizzle.com/~das
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From: "spicerun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:39:44 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mart van de Wege"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I *have* to interject here, because I get a little tired of the constant
> RH bashing that is going on. This is *not* an RH thing; Debian
> configures X the same way, using XF86Config-4.
OK, Why doesn't the majority of distros do it this way?
> Note that this is not a personal attack,
And please don't interpret my remarks below as a personal attack.
> but in my opinion RH gets a lot
> of undeserved flak, just because they are the most visible distro as
> market leaders.
I can't agree .....the 'flak' I give Redhat is because I'm actively using
and been using it since Redhat 5.2, and I'm just tired of spending time
doing additional research just to find where Redhat has relocated things
or find what strange tweak unique to Redhat that I have to add. (ie-Split
files apart in many files as they did with bind, always locate added on
programs in /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin, add an extra level of
directory for configurations on programs...like finding smb.conf in
/etc/samba/smb.conf instead of /etc/smb.conf, substitution compilers that
can't recompile the kernel...or for that matter splitting the kernel
sources up into 3 to 5 rpm packages that have to be installed if you want
to compile the kernel <Note: pcmcia drivers are now included in the 2.4.0
stock kernel, shouldn't be any need for a linux-2.4.0-X-pcmcia.rpm>, RPM
still doesn't work in cases where you query an uninstalled RPM, and on and
on and on...)
That's why I'm installing Debian Woody when it comes out.
Of course, RedHat must be doing something right since I am using and haved
used their distros for years. I really hope they'll come back to more
standardization....but, then again, they're absolutely standard when
compared to Windows. BTW, would you be surprised to know that I'm a
RedHat stockholder?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: 19 Apr 2001 18:26:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:39:44 -0500, spicerun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mart van de Wege"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> I *have* to interject here, because I get a little tired of the constant
>> RH bashing that is going on. This is *not* an RH thing; Debian
>> configures X the same way, using XF86Config-4.
>
>OK, Why doesn't the majority of distros do it this way?
What distro using XFree 4 doesn't?
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:31:29 +1000
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Tom Potter wrote:
> >
> > "silverback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:57:07 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >chrisv wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >just remember we tried that bullshit lazy fairy economic bullshit once
> > > >> >in this country. It ended in a spectular failure called the Great
> > > >> >Depression.
> > > >>
> > > >> Learn how to trim posts, Comrad.
> > > >
> > > >Sliverdick forgets that THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET WAS IN A DEPRESSION
> > > >(INCLUDING HIS BELOVED SOVIET UNION!!!)
> > >
> > > gwad damn yer a fucking idfiot. It was the lazy fairy economics of the
> > > 20s that produced the depression dipstick.
> >
> > The depression was brought on by government meddling (The restrictive
> > Smooth-Hawley trade bill)
> > in the free market, and Roosevelt inherited a serious recession, and turned it
> > into a long depression,
> > that was ended when he got America into two wars, and had to turn to the
> > business community
> > to produce arms.
> >
> > It is also interesting to note, that Clinton/Reno put a kink in the economy by
> > bringing
> > a monopoly suit against Microsoft, the engine that was driving force behind
> > the economy. One has to wonder if the suit would have been filed if Gates had
> > been a large donor
> > to Clinton's personal endeavors. (Presidency, NY Senate race, in-laws fortunes,
> > Library, etc. )
> >
>
>
> Did Klinton purposely screw up the economy for his successor?
> Yes, but not through the Mafia$oft suit. Mafia$oft has been in
> Federal court for close to a decade now (Ironically, for the SAME
> things that IBM was sanctioned for doing in the 1960's and 70's--
> so the case law is already against them).
>
> Microsoft is probably more detrimental to the economy than it helps.
>
> They stifle any sort of competitiveness with a LARGE variety of illegal
> practices (extortion, etc.) to keep YOU, ME, and the rest of the computer-
> buying public from even having access to pre-installed products written
> by competitors.
>
> Judge Jackson is a free-market Republican (appointed by Reagan)
> The Federal lawsuit was actually a FAVOR to Mafia$oft, because Reno and
> company CONSOLIDATED actions that had been underway by over 20 different
> states' Attornies General.
>
> As it is, if Mafia$oft only gets another slap on the wrist, expect to see
> them BANNED from Europe.
>
> So...how did Klinton fuck up the economy?
>
> Simple....EVERYTHING depends on energy prices...and WHO was it who
> pleaded with OPEC to cut back production?...ah yes, slick willie.
I guess that $260 billion profit that Mobil made last year would have
been at least $300 billion plus if Clinton didn't do this.
Gosh those poor oil companies.
>
>
>
>
>
> > --
> > Tom Potter http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>
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From: Martin Eden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:41:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JS PL says...
>
>As hard as it may be to believe, even in Washington, price and quality have
>some value. When a reporter asked why her agency uses Microsoft products,
>Reno explained that her procurement policy is to "buy the best equipment
>possible at the lowest price possible to benefit the American taxpayers."
>
>That's quite a concession. The purpose of American anti-trust law is not to
>prop up corporations that are losing market share, but to protect consumers.
>If Windows is the "best" available operating system at the "lowest possible
>price," it's hard to see what good it does Microsoft customers to split the
>company in half.
The problem is not that Windows or Office are bad software. They aren't. Windows
and Office are both fabulous.
The reason Microsoft should be broken up is due to the fact that the corporation
itself has become so large that it is possible for Microsoft to directly alter
or disrupt the national economy.
A group of unelected plutocrats in Redmond, Washington now have more real power
at the disposal of their whims than the Congress of the United States.
Do you begin to get the picture now?
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From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:47:29 -0700
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:41:32 GMT, Martin Eden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
>The problem is not that Windows or Office are bad software. They aren't. Windows
>and Office are both fabulous.
>
Well, "fabulous" may be a small exaggeration.
>The reason Microsoft should be broken up is due to the fact that the corporation
>itself has become so large that it is possible for Microsoft to directly alter
>or disrupt the national economy.
>
>A group of unelected plutocrats in Redmond, Washington now have more real power
>at the disposal of their whims than the Congress of the United States.
>
>Do you begin to get the picture now?
>
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From: "Wade Blazingame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:53:40 GMT
> As hard as it may be to believe, even in Washington, price and quality
have
> some value. When a reporter asked why her agency uses Microsoft products,
> Reno explained that her procurement policy is to "buy the best equipment
> possible at the lowest price possible to benefit the American taxpayers."
>
> That's quite a concession. The purpose of American anti-trust law is not
to
> prop up corporations that are losing market share, but to protect
consumers.
> If Windows is the "best" available operating system at the "lowest
possible
> price," it's hard to see what good it does Microsoft customers to split
the
> company in half.
Yeah, I understand that most government procurement agencies are quite the
authority on quality and cost-effectiveness.
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From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: IE
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:01:20 GMT
"Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bkl22$55$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:qRfD6.255$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Roy Culley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > In what way is NS4 insecure? IE has almost as many security bugs found
> as
> > > IIS. Over 100 security bugs found in Microsoft SW in 2000!
> >
> > Does it matter?! NS4 is a web browser which doesn't support HTML. By
it's
> > own specification it should have been bang up to the HTML4.0 provisional
> > specification which was available when it was released. Yeah, we could
> > forgive them if they went by HTML3 and then updated it, but to leave a
> > browser that is completely incapable around for more than a year is
> > disgusting... It can't even do the very very basic stuff correctly. It
> comes
> > to something when a browser company's web site looks distinctly better
and
> > is more readable in their competitor's product.
> >
> > They coded the site themselves so obviously there is no secret "way
> around"
> > these problems, the support simply isn't there...
> >
>
> An *extremely* good point.
Until it collides head first with 'cola logic', at which point it will be
summarily dismissed as troll bait.
As most, if not all facts are in cola.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:03:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:26:44 GMT, Pete Goodwin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> > My systems are generally well behaved. I was simply wondering if some of
> > yours were posessed. <g>
>
> I did wonder if the propensity for the number '666' and the fire and
> brimstone oozing out of the back of the monitor were normal...
>
> > I've never seen KDE do half of those things you've described. About the
> > only time I ever had X lock up to such an extent turned out to be flaky
> > RAM on my old Voodoo card. (Windows, too, started locking up whenever a
> > game or application indulged in heavy texture mapping at high resolutions.
> > It just occured more frequently under X as the overall mapping and
> > rendering were so much faster) Even then, telnet or ssh were functional
> > and allowed me to shut the system down.
>
> How much do you use KDE?
>
> > Have you absolutely and positively ruled out flakey hardware of any sort?
> > Linux does have a very low tolerance for misbehaving and marginal
> > hardware.
>
> I'd have thought flakey hardware would show up as problems under Windows
> too. I suspect it's not flakey hardware but the software: Linux + X + KDE
> 2.1.
I'm running SuSE 7.1 with KDE2.1 using the KDE upgrade rpms from SuSE's
site.
It's running on three machines. None of them exhibit any prblems, let alone
the defects you describe. Everything I've tried seems to work, even
printing, which is why I ditched Mandrake 7.2 in favour of SuSE's distro.
NFS worked as soon as I configured it, all my apps print the way they
should, even the Gimp, dare I say it...
So I guess you have hardware problems, Pete, that affect Linux rather than
Windows. Linux will use virtually all your free memory as a cache. If you
have a flaky bit/byte somewhere, Linux will find it whereas Windows may
never see it.
My only criticism of SuSE is SAX/SAX2 which is utter rubbish. I needed
several goes to get the resolution and depth I wanted. It never did succeed
on my laptop, merely crashing and locking up the whole machine. I'd to hack
XF86Config by hand to get it to work. SuSE really need to re-write this
abomination, especially as everything else works so well, if a little
slower than Mandrake.
Peter
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