Linux-Advocacy Digest #745, Volume #33 Sat, 21 Apr 01 05:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What's the point ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:10:47 -0400
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> <snype>
> >
> > Actually a lot of americans ask this same question... why us?
> > (policemen) The corruption is so deep and wide spread that its no
> > wonder when an american goes overseas for a vacation that we get spit
> > on. Its really sad that we have no control over them. Its like it
> > doesn't matter anymore at the voting booth.
> > --
> > V
> After seeing the elections, I would be very scared to be an American
> citizen esp. when a court car over ride the peoples will.
Actually, the Supreme Court ruled that the people's will should
be RESPECTED, becuase the laws in place at the start of the
election WERE The People's will...and one candidate, with the
Florida court as willing accomplices, was trying to overturn
the people's will by changing the rules in the middle of the game.
Fortunately, THAT asshole lost.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:13:08 -0400
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> WesTralia wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > >
> > > <snype>
> > > >
> > > > Actually a lot of americans ask this same question... why us?
> > > > (policemen) The corruption is so deep and wide spread that its no
> > > > wonder when an american goes overseas for a vacation that we get spit
> > > > on. Its really sad that we have no control over them. Its like it
> > > > doesn't matter anymore at the voting booth.
> > > > --
> > > > V
> > > After seeing the elections, I would be very scared to be an American
> > > citizen esp. when a court car over ride the peoples will.
> > >
> > > Matthew Gardiner
> >
> > If you are to continue making disparaging comments about America and her
> > people at least do so with correct spelling and sentence structure.
> >
> > In other words, you are not exactly making New Zealand look like the
> > educational mecca of the world.
> >
> > --
> New Zealands got more problems than you could poke a stick at. I was
> simply saying what should have happened was the people will should have
> followed instead of dragging the election through the courts. Isn't
The guy who dragged the election into the courts LOST.
And the only reason he dragged the elections into the courts was
because he KNEW he lost, and was hoping that the courts would
overturn his lost.
Fortunately, the Supreme Court saw through the ploy, and ruled that
the current laws ON THE BOOKS AT THE TIME OF THE ELECTION SHALL BE
UPHELD.
> better for an election to take a little longer in the knowledge that
> everything is above board?
We got it all sorted out, and the legitimate winner was inaugurated,
and is in the White House right now.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:16:35 -0400
pip wrote:
>
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > Hell yes. But atleast you don't see Germany or Japan trying to be the
> > world policeman. They have learnt their leason.
>
> So who will be? Us (UK)? the UN? NATO? Don't make me laugh! I am _SO_
> glad that America actually gets up of its arse and DOES something. I
> wish we did more. Our special relationship with America _is_ special
> because generally we agree with much of the American sentiment. I don't
> see Blair intervening in the middle east, and I wouldn't want cook to be
> sent just in case he starts more trouble. It is just a shame that their
> new president seems rather detached from international affairs (apart
> from bring an idiot).
You're making the same mistakes that the Demoncrooks (communists in
disguise) and the Communist Chinese made: namely: underestimating the man.
So far, the man has completely flummoxed everybody who has tried to
attack him...
In other words, if he's such an idiot, why does he keep beating
each and every opponent who tries to tangle with him?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:16:43 -0400
pip wrote:
>
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > Hell yes. But atleast you don't see Germany or Japan trying to be the
> > world policeman. They have learnt their leason.
>
> So who will be? Us (UK)? the UN? NATO? Don't make me laugh! I am _SO_
> glad that America actually gets up of its arse and DOES something. I
> wish we did more. Our special relationship with America _is_ special
> because generally we agree with much of the American sentiment. I don't
> see Blair intervening in the middle east, and I wouldn't want cook to be
> sent just in case he starts more trouble. It is just a shame that their
> new president seems rather detached from international affairs (apart
> from bring an idiot).
You're making the same mistakes that the Demoncrooks (communists in
disguise) and the Communist Chinese made: namely: underestimating the man.
So far, the man has completely flummoxed everybody who has tried to
attack him...
In other words, if he's such an idiot, why does he keep beating
each and every opponent who tries to tangle with him?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:19:20 -0500
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > "Roy Culley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > When talking about your file system, there shouldn't be *ANY* bugs.
MS
> > is
> > > > very loathe to make changes to it's file system, and when it does,
it
> > spends
> > > > eons testing them. FAT32 started testing before Windows 95 came
out,
> > but
> > > > didn't actually appear in a product until nearly 2 years later.
> > > >
> > > > Any possible bug in your filesystem should scare the living hell out
of
> > you.
> > > > One bug can corrupt your entire disk.
> > >
> > > You really are an obstreperous bastard. The reason why reiserfs was
> > > not incorporated into the first 2.4.0 release was not because of bugs.
> >
> > Really? Explain why 2.4.2 has a Reiserfs bug fixed.
> >
> > Explain why 2.4.3 has not zero, not one, but THREE bugs regarding the
> > Reiserfs fixed?
> >
> > Explain why 2.4.4 pre-4 has a Reiserfs bug fixed in it so far.
> >
> > > SuSE, a major contributor to reiserfs development, has been using it
> > > on their servers for a long time. They have provided it with their
> > > distributions for a long time. On the SuSE mailing list many people
> > > would ask if reiserfs is stable enough. SuSE people themselves replied
> > > saying they used it on servers with huge partitions and that it was
> > > rock solid.
> >
> > It may be "rock solid" in the vast majority of circumstances, but you
can't
> > predict when you will become the exception to the rule.
> >
> > > To say that MS is loath to release critical software
> > > before doing eons of testing has to be one of the biggest jokes
> > > ever. MS hasn't given a toss about quality until the Internet became a
> > > big thing. They are now producing a fairly reliable operating system
> > > but only after the huge embarrassment of so many bugs being made
> > > public via the Internet.
> >
> > MS's file systems have always been rock solid. They take the file
system as
> > a very important piece of the puzzle.
>
> Oh Really?? Then why do you have run scandisk all the time before doing
> a defrag??
That's not a bug, its a precaution.
> Why does this have to be done once a week at least to keep things on an
> even keel??
I haven't done it in recent memory on my 98 machine.. at least 9 months..
maybe a year.
> Looks like some bugs to me.
Not bugs at all. Why do you have to fsck after a improper shutdown, is that
a bug too?
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:21:08 -0400
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> pip wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > Hell yes. But atleast you don't see Germany or Japan trying to be the
> > > world policeman. They have learnt their leason.
> >
> > So who will be? Us (UK)? the UN? NATO? Don't make me laugh! I am _SO_
> > glad that America actually gets up of its arse and DOES something. I
> > wish we did more. Our special relationship with America _is_ special
> > because generally we agree with much of the American sentiment. I don't
> > see Blair intervening in the middle east, and I wouldn't want cook to be
> > sent just in case he starts more trouble. It is just a shame that their
> > new president seems rather detached from international affairs (apart
> > from bring an idiot).
>
> There is a difference between being a leader, and being a bully. For
> example, on the US's back door step you have Cuba, after 30 years, the
> US still thinks Cuba is a threat to their national security! how is that
1961 Cuban Missile Crisis.
Until the Communists are swept out of Cuba, then Cuba will be a
threat to the national security of the US.
> possible in a country whose economy is going down the toilet? Generally
> speaking I agree with the US's policies such as blowing the shit out of
> Saddam Husian, however, when you start crossing that line between
> leading and bullying, then one needs to look at the larger picture.
>
> >
> > >However, US still
> > > haven't learnt it, even with all the nut cases out there wanting to blow
> > > up US government buildings.
> >
> > Hmmmm. Don't speak to fast as if you remember we also have our problems
> > with the natives. Still if you want to promote an white-tower argument
> > that is up to you.
>
> Look at the number of autocracies and dictatorships America supported
> during the cold war, and the number of ethnic groups that were
> repressed, the you will understand why there are fanatics running a
> muck.
>
Sometime, you have no choice between being friends with military
Junta A and Dictatorship B when you absolutely *MUST* get bases
for electronic surveillance and forward military staging areas.
Most of which are necessary for protecting either
a) shipping lanes. If we lose a shipping lane, and American
businessmen will start calling for some Admiral's head
on a platter.
b) foreign markets (both as purchasers of our goods, and sources
of raw materials, or food, or whatever). If we loose
access to a crucial market, American businessmen will
start calling for some General's head on a platter.
> >
> > >You only need to look at the US's
> > > involvement in Somalia to show how arrogance + ignorance = disaster.
> >
> > You should not comment on things you know nothing about. Somalia was/IS
> > a blood bath and like it or not I am glad that the USA has helped
> > restore some order in some parts. It _was_ a mess - conflict is. Would
> > you prefer to leave the innocent to be hacked to death or shot? FFS!
> >
> > We take our security for granted - you WOULD NOT BELIEVE how many people
> > fear for their lives each and every day. If there is a world policeman
> > then I would prefer it to be the USA rather than something you think up
> > any day.
> >
> > If you think that the innocent should die and we should do nothing then
> > I pity you. It is an argument that I just can't come to terms with. It
> > is against every little thing I believe in. I just don't understand.
>
> My father was in their for the last 11 months of the UN mission (he was
> involved with the clean up and leave operation), and the US had little
> time for negotiating between the two factions. When they (US) went in,
> they did a vietnam, one soldier was shot, they would wipe out the whole
> street. That sort of approach doesn't exactly help anyone. When ever
> there was a peace talk, neither side trusted the UN, even though they
> were an entirely different group of nations.
>
> >
> > >It
> > > is one thing helping a country, it is another thing to tell a country
> > > what to do.
> >
> > Fuck that! I guess that you would not pass comment on Nazi Germany if
> > you were back then.
>
> I would, however, its funny the US never did anything about during the
> 15 years of hell in Germany. Mind you, the US then was not as arrogant
> as it is now. Maybe GWB should look into the past before making another
> mistakes, such as the pushing for the re-birth of the old starwars
> project.
>
> > **********
> >
> > >However, what I can say, is, the Soviet Union was the first
> > > to develop biological weapons, with the first one being developed, one
> > > carrying a antibiotic resistant strain of the smallpox virus. The US
> > > said it was impossible, the Soviet Union proved them wrong. The US had
> > > one space station, the Soviety union threw up 5 into orbit. Little
> > > facts most people in the US fail to comprehend, that there is NO ONE
> > > country that has contributed to human technological advance, but many,
> > > and until this happens, the rampant arrogance will continue to grow.
> >
> > You have got SUCH a big chip on your shoulder! What's the problem? Could
> > not get a better paid job in the USA? If I were single I would be headed
> > off to CA faster than I can say US intervention.
> >
> > I mean really, I think we should stick to computing. I hate these racist
> > flame wars that just promote hate.
> >
> > Long live the USA. If I need someone to protect my arse, I know who I'd
> > choose.
> The US has some great attributes that many countries should adopt.
> However, maybe the US should adopt the same approach China has to North
> Korea, "Our nations are different, however, it is not our place to
> interfer into your internal policies". Instead of trying to push the
> democracy wheel barrow into China, and create instability, the US should
> focus on strengthening ties with China, and let China, when the time
> comes decide which way they will hend into the future.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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