Linux-Advocacy Digest #572, Volume #34 Thu, 17 May 01 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why did Eazel shutdown? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Solaris 8 vs 7/2.x.... ("Donal K. Fellows")
Re: Solaris 8 vs 7/2.x.... ("Donal K. Fellows")
Re: Why did Eazel shutdown? (Central Authority)
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Linux posts #1 TPC-H result (W2K still better) (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: EXTRA EXTRA MS ADMITS!!!! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: What does Linux need for the desktop? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Rather humorous posting on news.com commentry forum: (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
Re: Why did Eazel shutdown? (Central Authority)
Re: Mandrake 8.0 ("Justin Mahn")
Re: Rather humorous posting on news.com commentry forum: (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Re: Why did Eazel shutdown? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Mandrake 8 sets the standard - for Desktop users anyway. (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Oracle 8.1.6 on Solaris or Linux? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Campaign: Microsoft Free by October 1st ("Edward Rosten")
Re: To Erik: What is Wordperfect missing? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Campaign: Microsoft Free by October 1st ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Campaign: Microsoft Free by October 1st ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Analysis of the Linux Report from MS ("Edward Rosten")
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why did Eazel shutdown?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:44:59 +1200
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> "somebody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> stands accused of saying:
> > >And you only have to pay the star
> > >programmer an amount of $100,000 per
> > >year,
> >
> > lol, on what planet?
>
> $100k is not an outrageous salary for a programmer, especially when you
> factor in benefits, taxes, social security, etc.. (the company is required
> by law to pay a portion of that).
Personally, I have only ever seen programming jobs at 65K to 85K in New
Zealand dollars. 100k US$ is way, way over the top.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris,staroffice.com.support.install.solaris,comp.unix.advocacy,alt.os.unix,alt.unix
Subject: Re: Solaris 8 vs 7/2.x....
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:37:06 +0100
Rich Teer wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2001, C. Newport wrote:
>> I just let the developers rlogin to a decent fast box, that way
>> it's easier to keep everything backed up and properly under SCCS.
(SCCS? Ewwww...)
> Hmm. I'd rather developers use their local CPU for running the
> compilations - using NFS mounted home directories to address your
> other points.
Experience says that NFS is much slower than local disk, especially when
there is serious network contention. Particularly bad are those periods
when someone is reinstalling Linux over the network on a few hundred
machines. :^/ (Lots of protocols were hitting timeouts while waiting
for the chance to squeeze a packet over the network, even though the
contention was all on parts that were 100baseT or better...)
Whether this matters or not depends a lot on the particular configuration
of the build machine(s) and network of course.
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Actually, come to think of it, I don't think your opponent, your audience,
or the metropolitan Tokyo area would be in much better shape.
-- Jeff Huo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris,staroffice.com.support.install.solaris,comp.unix.advocacy,alt.os.unix,alt.unix
Subject: Re: Solaris 8 vs 7/2.x....
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:41:02 +0100
Matt McLeod wrote:
> And, possibly more importantly, it means you have an "interesting"
> time dealing with compiler incompatibilities. It's bad enough between
> versions of Sun's stuff, let alone between the Sun compilers and gcc.
So long as you treat warnings issued by any compiler as errors to be fixed,
that shouldn't be too big a problem. It's good practise to compile with
lots of different compilers, as that stops you from relying on the bugs,
features and peculiarities of any one. Mind you, some architectures are
easier to target than others (thinking of my experiences with 64-bit IRIX.)
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Actually, come to think of it, I don't think your opponent, your audience,
or the metropolitan Tokyo area would be in much better shape.
-- Jeff Huo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Central Authority<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why did Eazel shutdown?
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:46:46 GMT
"On Thu, 17 May 2001 13:43:07 +1200, in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthew Gardiner spoke in class today..."
>
>Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
>> It was the 16 May 2001 17:20:59 GMT...
>> ...and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> Overhead shouldn't be much
>> > >> money since you don't need office space
>> > >> but can do everything over the Internet.
>> >
>> > > Having the people work in one place does vastly increase productivity,
>> > > though.
>> >
>> > Actually it doesnt at all, thats one of those big lies that everyone
>> > seems to want to believe.
>>
>> It's common sense that the easiest way of communication is
>> to talk face-to-face. And efficiency requires communication if you
>> want to make anything remotely resembling a software system product.
>>
>> mawa
>>
>
>Geeks talk? most programmers I have meet are recluse, social impotant twitts
>who couldn't string a sentence together to save themselves.
>
>Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:48:04 +1200
> So in essence, its not such a big deal?
>
> Only if you consider a hidden back door in every IIS server on the planet
> which gives the user the capability to steal everything off the server and
> run a muck across your intra-net no problem.
>
> Of course if you didn't you probably also think Intel made risc chips
> and thought highly of them...
>
> --
> Charlie
> -------
In the context that if you are stupid enough to run IIS, then you deserve
everything you get. I have no sympathy for those who choose IIS, then bitch and
moan because some script kiddie did some background research in the
vulnerabilities on IIS, and chooses to exploit these holes.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:48:59 +1200
> Here's something that's just as good as a back door:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-026.asp
>
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-026
> Superfluous Decoding Operation Could Allow Command Execution via IIS
> Originally posted: May 14, 2001
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Free the Software!
As I said before, I have no sympathy for those who choose to run inferior
products.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux posts #1 TPC-H result (W2K still better)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:51:28 +1200
> No, it's not as easy. Linuxconf is the most twisted up tool that I've seen.
> You put ten thousands configurations into one tool. It takes minutes just to
> find the right node!
> And it can't decided if it's a wizard base interface or dialog base or
> something else.
> They should've gone on something like the control panel on windows, not to
> shove everything and anything under the sun into one tool.
I don't use it. I use the configuration tool that comes with SuSE, that is,
YaST 2. If you want to blame someone, blame Redhat for continuing to revive
the POS.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EXTRA EXTRA MS ADMITS!!!!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:53:55 +1200
> The HP-9000 isn't running on a risc based processor bone head.
>
> I the HP-9000 is running on the 64 bit version of the Intel
> chip. That isn't a risc based processor.
>
> EPIC is not RISC you fucking meathead and HP isn't using
> any motorola chips either.
>
> It is the commercial version of the Itanium and it's been
> in use for 1.5 years now.
>
> There is no model of HP-9000 which runs on a non-intel
> chip.
>
> Thanks blockheads for playing!
>
> If you were real computer professionals you would know this.
>
> Intel won't release a chip into the market until MS says
> it's time to go.
>
> http://isearch.intel.com/scripts-search/search.asp?
> isoCode=en&q1=risc&SearchCrit=ALL
> &category=ALL&mh=25&MimeType=ALL
>
> They call it the IA-64!
>
> And I'd like to say the both of you are something worse
> than mis-informed. You have your fucking heads up
> your ass.
>
> --
> Charlie
> -------
CALM DOWN CHARLIE! shit, I was only guessing.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does Linux need for the desktop?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:55:29 +1200
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > I'm running SuSE Linux 7.1 and I have anti alias fonts. All my netscape
> > fonts are displayed correctly, so whats your point? btw, what sort of
> > video card do you have?
>
> I'm running SuSE 7.1 - it doesn't do anti aliased fonts by default. I
> seem to remember there were several steps involved. My video card is a
> Voodoo 5500 which runs pretty slowly on Linux.
>
> --
> ---
> Pete Goodwin
> All your no fly zone are belong to us
> My opinions are my own
What version of xfree are you running? I didn't have to set up anything. I
installed SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro, reboot, and voila, instant anti-aliasing.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rather humorous posting on news.com commentry forum:
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 02:03:19 +1200
> No, it's another example of the kind of contempt for end-users that will
> keep Linux from making a dent in the desktop market.
>
> Christ. Talk about own worst enemy.
What is keeping Linux off the desktop is ignorance and arrogance rolled up
into a little ball called, "Linux is too hard!" + "Why should I learn how
to use it?". You hear users bitch and moan, but when a replacement comes
along, they make excuses, even though all they do it write a letter to Aunt
Dolly and email some crap to work. Something Linux is more than capable of
doing.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:04:08 GMT
"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > It's because the software they want to run, runs on
> > Windows. Only.
> >
>
> Because m$ stole the market.
That's "earned the market". please. :D
> > Except for MS Office, which runs on Macs too. But
> > that's not enough by itself, as I'm sure you realize.
> >
> > MS Windows won the hearts and minds of the
> > developers of desktop applications.
>
> m$ didnt win ANY developer's hearts. Developers HATE micro$oft because
> they know if they market something that catches m$'s eye, m$ will take
> it.
Not at all. Developers just keep on flocking to
Microsoft's banner, when MS is the best solution.
Sure, they know that MS might try to buy them
out if they are successful enough. They *like*
that, it means MS drives up with a dump truck
full of money.
They also know that if for some reason MS can't
or won't do that, they can still compete with
Microsoft and *win*. Others have; MS doesn't
have black magic.
The anti-MS zealotry you see from developers is
pretty much the exclusive province of the he open
source community. That is still pretty small
potatoes, all told.
> "A lot of peoplemake the analogy that competing with Bill Gates is like
> playing hardball. I'd say it's more like knifefight" - Gary Clow
I'll buy that. Nimbleness is very important when
competing with Microsoft.
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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:08:02 GMT
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > It's because the software they want to run, runs on
> > Windows. Only.
> >
> > Except for MS Office, which runs on Macs too. But
> > that's not enough by itself, as I'm sure you realize.
>
> For some people this is true... for a lot of newbies, they only know
> what is in front of them in the retail outlets. Even here there are no
> Macs unless you go to Seattle.
Well, I dunno. Macs aren't *that* invisible. More retailers
do sell PCs, because they know that users who *do* have
a clue will usually prefer them (or rather the applications
that run on them); those that do not won't know the
difference.
It's perfectly sensible.
> The newbies first response is "How do I use this now that I have it?"...
> And then later its "That's neat, I didn't know spreadsheets could do
> that",.. or "That's neat, I didn't know Word could do that." For me a
> long while back, it was get the best I could afford and put the closest
> VAX fortran like compiler on it along with a good C compiler.
> Everyone has their druthers.
Well, yes. Desktop users aren't the whole world.
> > MS Windows won the hearts and minds of the
> > developers of desktop applications.
>
> That of course is your opinion. It never won my heart over before I
> retired.
When did you retire? There was a time when Windows
was ususable crap. Developers did not switch until it
improved quite a lot from its beginnings.
I do know there are exceptions, but nearly all desktop
app development is done on Windows these days,
and it isn't because developers are idiots who can't
see what's so plainly obvious to T Max Devlin. :D
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From: Central Authority<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why did Eazel shutdown?
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:10:33 GMT
"On Thu, 17 May 2001 14:19:00 +1200, in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthew Gardiner spoke in class today..."
>
>pip wrote:
>
>> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>> > Geeks talk? most programmers I have meet are recluse, social impotant twitts
>> > who couldn't string a sentence together to save themselves.
>>
>> Gee, thanks.
>
>Forgot to add, they are commonly Windows programmers. Linux programmers, well,
>at Uni, were the ones dress up like a Goth whilst listening to the likes of
>Marilyn Manson or on the other end of the spectrum, sometimes they were the
>people you least expect. Me? I'm the type of person who can get up in and speak
>to a group of 500 people without the need to prepare a speech. One of the speechs
>at Uni. I made was concerning Linux and development, 96% was the mark I received,
>4% was taken off as many people were lost when I went into great detail, however,
>the lecturer did note that I was able to make computer fun by ensuring that
>there were comparisions between complicated issues, such as kernel internals and
>what happens in the real world.
>
>Matthew Gardiner
>
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From: "Justin Mahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Mandrake 8.0
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:13:49 -0500
would you say that 90% of those 99% pride themselves at reading source code?
*grin*
"Natalie Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> you might want to repost your msg in TEXT instead of HTML
> and you will get faster response. 99% of the people here
> don't read newsgroup in html :)
>
> > Jerr Wong wrote:
> >
> > I have installed it. However, there are some proble m:
> >
> > 1. Every time when I want to exit the Xwindows, it stops. I can only
> > exit by CTL+ATL+backspace.
> > 2. Cannot show the chinese character (big5) in the headings of
> > Newsgroup message.
> > 3. Although it can display chinese character (big5) properly, the
> > printing is unsuccessfull.
> > 4. The 3D screensaver not work. (may be Mesa not install?)
> >
> > --
> > http://members.hknet.com/~wong63124
> > (In Chinese Big 5)
> >
> > http://members.hknet.com/~wong63124/linux.htm
> > (In English)
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rather humorous posting on news.com commentry forum:
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 02:14:37 +1200
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > The real problem here is that most users are complete morons. They never
> > understood DOS, Windows or Linux. Sure they seemed to achieve something
> > with Windows but when it went wrong, they didn't have a clue and, as
> > someone who worked on a help desk for some years, I got sick and tired
> > of dealing with these cretins who shouldn't have been allowed anywhere
> > near a PC.
> > Like women drivers who don't know how to change a wheel, the technology
> > is beyond them and they should leave it to the big boys who really
> > understand it. Sorry guys - you are too stupid to have a computer.
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Doesn't the above just summarise the problem with the populous.
>
> Doesn't the above summarise your problems? Your bias? Your sexism?
Nope, it shows the end user is, by default, a complete and utter moron beyond
belief. One only needs to go into a super market, and see the number of
people who put their eggs and bread first on the conveyer belt at the
checkout. The number of users who want to get a P4 because it has a "bigger
number than PIII". Or, because Bill Gates says its good, obviously he's
right. Better still, users, who buy crap machines from Compaq, IBM and HP,
then one year down the track they want to upgrade something, say the graphics
card because they heard from a friend that their game will run better, and
get told by their local computer shop that they can't upgrade.
It is about time the end user got out of this ignorance. These are the exact
same people who protest against globalisation and Free Tebet, they know
diddly squat about, but because some communist, aka, trade unionist rants on
the news about things, because it would mean the end of their pampered union
lifestyle, and whats worse, they, the ignorant public, believe them!
It is about time people started reading books and started educating
themselves instead of sitting in front of a televison for 4 hours each night
watch Septic Tank crap like "Roswell" and "Mad about you". The politicians
know that, and play on peoples ignorance. Its quite funny seeing people run
on policies that the educated 10% known won't work, whilst the 90% sit in an
ignorant slumber.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:15:45 GMT
On Thu, 17 May 2001 02:14:18 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > Well, yeah. Re-associate anything that's normally associated with the
: > Windows Scripting Host with Notepad. Nothing breaks, and even if the
: > stupid users open those attachments nothing happens.
:
: But what about the executables?
The vast majority of virii spread via email are vbscripts. Emailing
executables? I've got my mail server configured to strip executables.
There is no good reason to email exe's.
--
Jason Costomiris <>< | Technologist, geek, human.
jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org | http://www.jasons.org/
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
My account, My opinions.
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why did Eazel shutdown?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 02:16:13 +1200
Central Authority wrote:
> "On Thu, 17 May 2001 14:19:00 +1200, in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Matthew Gardiner spoke in class today..."
> >
> >pip wrote:
> >
> >> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >> > Geeks talk? most programmers I have meet are recluse, social impotant twitts
> >> > who couldn't string a sentence together to save themselves.
> >>
> >> Gee, thanks.
> >
> >Forgot to add, they are commonly Windows programmers. Linux programmers, well,
> >at Uni, were the ones dress up like a Goth whilst listening to the likes of
> >Marilyn Manson or on the other end of the spectrum, sometimes they were the
> >people you least expect. Me? I'm the type of person who can get up in and speak
> >to a group of 500 people without the need to prepare a speech. One of the speechs
> >at Uni. I made was concerning Linux and development, 96% was the mark I received,
> >4% was taken off as many people were lost when I went into great detail, however,
> >the lecturer did note that I was able to make computer fun by ensuring that
> >there were comparisions between complicated issues, such as kernel internals and
> >what happens in the real world.
> >
> >Matthew Gardiner
> >
>
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"Person too gutless to use their proper name and email address" o metre, shit, its
gone right of the scale.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 8 sets the standard - for Desktop users anyway.
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 02:19:24 +1200
Its nice to see yet another truthful account of what REALLY happens when
installing Linux.
Matthew Gardiner
fk10 wrote:
> I was always a RedHat fan. Since 5.0 I sticked with RedHat and I always
> thought the other distro's will be just the same.
>
> Well, I finally took a deap breath and installed Mandrake 8.
>
> W O W ! ! !
>
> No fine tuning the X server, no playing with the sound configuration, no
> need to read pages on pages of ppp howto's - everything works out of the
> box.
>
> Not even Windows is this easy!
>
> My previous box was compromised, so this time I made sure security was top
> on my priority list. Nice feature of Mandrake to give three levels of
> security before you install the beast. I naturally selected PARANOID, and I
> suddenly wish RedHat had this option...
>
> Any way, everything works, and after about three days now I have no
> complaints.
>
> For those whining about headers, I'm writing this message from a VMWare
> session running Win 95. I use a web service (www.news2web.com) at this
> stage.
>
> I think I will stick to Mandrake 8 for a while. The desktop environment
> seems to be lightyears ahead of anything from the competition (distro's and
> other OS's included), and I'm just so impressed, I can't sleep at night.
>
> Anyway, nice chatting to you all again. See you!
>
> Nico.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oracle 8.1.6 on Solaris or Linux?
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:24:33 +0100
> Alright dipshit, for the last fucking time:
> You really are an idiot, and furthermore it is quite obvious that you
What is it with you? This guy didn't insult you. Take 10 deep breaths and
start again.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
My opinions are my own. I represent no one but myself.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Campaign: Microsoft Free by October 1st
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:37:47 +0100
>>> Problem is there are no pro quality applications to use the card, or
>>> any other high end card for that matter.
>>
>>Why not write some tools then?
>>
>>-Ed
>
> Dammit Jim! (Ed)!!!
> I'm a musician not a programmer!!!!
LOL!
Mabey team up with some programmers: that way you could get a music app
perfectly taylored to your needs. Also, leaning a bit about DSP might
give you some useful insight.
It's not all that hard, especially if you have something like sox which
can give you a really easy to read file format.
> I'd stand a better chance of building my own artificial heart. Anyone
> know if that "LeakEnder 2000" on infomercials works on blood?
I've got an old turbocharger pump kicking around here. Any use?
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
My opinions are my own. I represent no one but myself.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To Erik: What is Wordperfect missing?
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:42:09 +0100
>> Er...? If the embedded document is open, then you are editing it. I
>> dont think you meant that, so could you rephrase the question?
>
> The document is open by the word processor. How do you edit the
> spreadsheet data in a seperate application when the document is already
> opened exclusively?
Well, if its imported as an EPS, edit the file that was used to generate
the EPS, then create a new EPS (under xfig, the app I import most from
this takes all of 1 click). Then when you redisplay, you get the new
eps displayed. Remember since EPS is 1 way, you only need open if for
reading once, and if it changes, just read it again.
Using LaTeX + Xdvi + whatever works just beautifully like this.
-Ed
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:46:19 GMT
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:UMHM6.642$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
<snip>
> >
> > They belong to the: Windows And Network Klub ---> or WANK for short :)
>
> <sigh>
>
> You guys are completely devoid of any logic or reason. You present no
> facts and only fling the personal insults.
>
> Completely clueless...
>
> *pl0nk*
This damning indictment has been brought to you by Chad Myers...
A veritable paragon of logic and reason on COLA for longer than most care to
remember!
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Campaign: Microsoft Free by October 1st
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:46:47 +0100
> Me: BBC --> Amiga 500 --> Windows 95 --> Linux
Me: BBC --> PC --> BBC (hell, they're that good) --> Win95 --> Linux.
I still think they're great.
-Ed
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You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Campaign: Microsoft Free by October 1st
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:58:50 +0100
> I still think bbc basic was the best basic I have ever used.
With out a shadow of a doubt. It was the only basic with a direct
equivalent to malloc() as well, oh yeah, and pointers too with *real*
indirection with indexing, not the poke/peek crap.
Not only that, it was damned fast to boot, since it was compiled in to
byte code on the fly.
And it had an integrated assembler, not to mention a rather cool
terminal.
Actually, I'm going to hook up my BBC Master as a dumb terminal to my PC
real soon now (tm).
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
My opinions are my own. I represent no one but myself.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Analysis of the Linux Report from MS
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:01:00 +0100
> I plan to fill a spot on the desk with some Sun hardware next year,
> myself...I'd do it this year if it were not for the fact that an
> engagement ring purchase is going to eat my fun money up!
Well, allow me to congratulate you.
-Ed
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You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
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My opinions are my own. I represent no one but myself.
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