Linux-Advocacy Digest #733, Volume #34 Wed, 23 May 01 16:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Chad Myers")
USENIX 2001 Annual Technical Conference (Tiffany Peoples)
Re: Linux takes Hollywood by storm! (Peter Hayes)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Re: What is the licence aggreement for REDHAD professional server? (Dave Martel)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (the tree by the
river)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:11:14 -0400
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> <> Also, using myself as an
> >> <>example: I'm heterosexual and have *no* choice in the matter.
> >>
> >> But you do have a choice in your behavior.
>
> I have no choice. there is nothjing I could do that would make e
> homosexual.
Wrong.
You have no choice over your DESIRES.
You have COMPLETE control over your actions.
Hope that helps.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> (You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
>
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Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:03:11 GMT
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Solaris and HP-UX are hardly "obscure", though, regardles of which
> > > > world you're living in.
> > >
> > > So Chad, why doesn't Microsoft make IE for Linux? What are they
> > > afraid of?
> >
> > They're not afraid of anything. No one would use IE on Linux
>
> As opposed to the endless masses using it on Solaris and HP-UX? Linux/BSD
> easily have 100 times the number of desktop users.
A current fad. MS waits until there's a solid base. In 2 years they'll all
be gone.
-c
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From: Tiffany Peoples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USENIX 2001 Annual Technical Conference
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:33:19 -0700
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux takes Hollywood by storm!
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:22:36 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 22 May 2001 19:54:25 -0700, "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Glitch"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I did read the article before I posted it. Does it sound like I didn't?
>
> Sorry for any confusion; I was replying to Mart van de Wege's post, two
> levels up from yours. And let me know what newsreader you're using so I
> can avoid it. <grin>
Same as yours, it would seem, from the headers Pan/0.9.6 (unix).
Peter
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:33:55 -0400
Rich Soyack wrote:
>
> "Ian Davey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JamesW
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >In article <9ec2u1$c6cq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > >>
> > >> Are you disengenous or stupid? Or both. A homophobe is a person who
> hates
> > >> gays. That's what the word means.
> > >
> > >There has been a linguistic hijacking here...
> > >
> > >homo - same
> > >phobos - fear
> > >
> > >homophobe - someone who fears things that are the same != a person who
> > >hates gays.
> >
> > And gay means happy. The english language has always been very good at
> > evolving, and words do not necessary retain the meaning of their strict
> latin
> > translations. If they did we'd still be speaking Latin. As the word is
> used
> > currently, homophobe refers to someone that hates gays. Common usage tends
> to
> > define the meaning of English words.
>
> But is it common usage or is one group trying to make it common usage?
>
It's linguistic manipulation for the purposes of propaganda and ostracizing
anybody who disagrees with their radically insane position.
> Rich Soyack
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:43:39 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
Aaron> Edward Rosten wrote:
>>
>> >> <> Also, using myself as an
>> >> <>example: I'm heterosexual and have *no* choice in the matter.
>> >>
>> >> But you do have a choice in your behavior.
>>
>> I have no choice. there is nothjing I could do that would make e
>> homosexual.
Aaron> Wrong.
Aaron> You have no choice over your DESIRES.
And homosexuality (as well as heterosexuality) is
defined (in the English language) as being determined
by desires, not behavior.
Aaron> You have COMPLETE control over your actions.
True, but irrelevant in this contest.
Aaron> Hope that helps.
It helps those that have not noticed yet how stupid
you are.
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is the licence aggreement for REDHAD professional server?
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:31:30 -0600
On 23 May 2001 18:55:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 23 May 2001 14:56:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>
>>>KerryHB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I am thinking of using many cheap Intel PC as SERVERS.
>>>
>>>> Can I buy one copy Redhat Professional Server and install it on 50 PCs?
>>>
>>>Why would you *buy* it?
>>>
>
>> To support the company?
>
>Why? Linux is doing just fine with or without redhat.
That can be said of any other distribution, too. However if someone
prefers a specific distro then it's in their own best interest to keep
it around by supporting it.
>Also, there are better server OS choices, if you must use linux.
Agreed, but that's a different question.
------------------------------
From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:48:47 +0200
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
In article <3b0aed60$0$2606$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chad Myers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <3b0ad984$0$2599$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chad Myers"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > It does for people who do serious word processing. You're a
>> > developer, so you probably don't need most of the features, but for
>> > people creating real documents with flash and pizzaz, those features
>> > save lots of time.
>> >
>> > -c
>> >
>> >
>> Chad,
>>
>> Wouldn't you classify academic dissertations of 200 pages as serious
>> word processing? C't did a test on word processors beginning this year
>> and Word 2000 (SP1) consistently barfed on that.
>
> C't is a biased MS-bashing rag just like The Register. I have yet to see
> either posted a favorable article of Microsoft.
>
> Somehow, millions of people use Word very efficiently and demand even
> more features from, yet you, all-knowing, all-wise deem it crap because
> you can't seem to figure it out?
>
>> Hardly a recommendation.
>
> Nope. Bias and FUD, rather.
>
> -c
>
>
Chad m'boy,
Much as I appreciate your honesty, you don't know me. I *use* Word at
work, and I *hate* it with a passion. Something that happened just today:
I try to select some text in a Form field. The minute the last character
is selected *bloody* Word decides that I want to select the whole field.
It's things like this that make me positively mad.
you know, when I have to type up a memo, I can do it on the company time,
but I always take it home to do it in StarOffice, even though we have a
paranoid IT staff that makes it very hard to bring Word documents from
outside the company on to our workstations. For me working with a sane
wordprocessor is worth the hassle with IT.
Oh, and calling c't an MS bashing rag is very rich. Tell me Chad, can you
read either German or Dutch? MS even publishes in c't, in fact Windows XP
even got a positive review apart from the activation hassles, which was
held out of the review and put in to a separate article.
You want a list of MS positive articles in the few issues I have? I can
list them, and even scan them in for you.
Mart
--
Gimme back my steel, gimme back my nerve
Gimme back my youth for the dead man's curve
For that icy feel when you start to swerve
John Hiatt - What Do We Do Now
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the tree by the river)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:53:19 GMT
In article <vTTO6.1361$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rich Soyack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Kish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> "Rich Soyack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >
>> > How about hatred of homosexuals? Homophobe is not common
>> > usage in the USA.
>>
>> Yes it is.
>>
>> Pick up a dictionary and take a look.
>
>Any dictionary or politically correct dictionaries?
www.dictionary.com lists it, as does the American Heritage
dictionary and the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary.
The scary part is that the on-line references then want to
sell you books, videos, and other popular products related
to homophobia. I decided that I would be just as happy not
taking them up on any of these incredible on-line offers.
--
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www.trygve.com/ssfaq.html [ http://www.nyx.net ] www.trygve.com/mfw.html
the Furbeowulf Project - build your own supercomputer for less than $79.95:
http://www.trygve.com/furbeowulf.html
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:54:48 -0400
Ian Davey wrote:
>
> In article <5rOO6.1994$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rich Soyack"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> And gay means happy. The english language has always been very good at
> >> evolving, and words do not necessary retain the meaning of their strict
> >latin
> >> translations. If they did we'd still be speaking Latin. As the word is
> >used
> >> currently, homophobe refers to someone that hates gays. Common usage tends
> >to
> >> define the meaning of English words.
> >
> >But is it common usage or is one group trying to make it common usage?
>
> Definately common usage, at least in the UK, I can't really speak for
> elsewhere. In fact you'll probably be hard pressed to find people that
> consider homophobes to be afraid of gays, especially considering all the
> violence perpetrated by homophobes. You could of course argue that their
> hatred of gays comes from a combination of fear and ignorance. Anyway, in your
> view what is the correct term for hatred of gays if "homophobe" is incorrect?
> I can't think of any other word that comes anywhere close to having common
> usage.
Regardless, the use of the suffix -phobe is IMPROPER.
The the fags know it.
>
> ian.
>
> \ /
> (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
> | |
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:58:25 -0400
Ian Davey wrote:
>
> In article <myPO6.2085$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rich Soyack"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Definately common usage, at least in the UK, I can't really speak for
> >> elsewhere. In fact you'll probably be hard pressed to find people that
> >> consider homophobes to be afraid of gays, especially considering all the
> >> violence perpetrated by homophobes. You could of course argue that their
> >> hatred of gays comes from a combination of fear and ignorance. Anyway, in
> >your
> >> view what is the correct term for hatred of gays if "homophobe" is
> >incorrect?
> >> I can't think of any other word that comes anywhere close to having common
> >> usage.
> >
> >How about hatred of homosexuals?
>
> That's a perfect example of why homophobe is used to describe someone who
> hates homosexuals. There's no other word for it.
No. detesting someone's behavior != fear.
Hope that helps.
>
> > Homophobe is not common usage in the USA.
>
> I'm not sure I believe that, I've certainly seen plenty of Americans use it.
> Though perhaps it's nervousness about using the "H" word amongst certain
> circles, unless ranting about those who are "goin' to heeelll".
>
> ian.
>
> \ /
> (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
> | |
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:59:22 -0400
Rich Soyack wrote:
>
> "Ian Davey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <myPO6.2085$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rich Soyack"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >> Definately common usage, at least in the UK, I can't really speak for
> > >> elsewhere. In fact you'll probably be hard pressed to find people that
> > >> consider homophobes to be afraid of gays, especially considering all
> the
> > >> violence perpetrated by homophobes. You could of course argue that
> their
> > >> hatred of gays comes from a combination of fear and ignorance. Anyway,
> in
> > >your
> > >> view what is the correct term for hatred of gays if "homophobe" is
> > >incorrect?
> > >> I can't think of any other word that comes anywhere close to having
> common
> > >> usage.
> > >
> > >How about hatred of homosexuals?
> >
> > That's a perfect example of why homophobe is used to describe someone who
> > hates homosexuals. There's no other word for it.
>
> What's wrong with that phrase?
>
> >
> > > Homophobe is not common usage in the USA.
> >
> > I'm not sure I believe that,
>
> As I don't believe that homophobe is in common usage in the UK.
>
> > I've certainly seen plenty of Americans use it.
> > Though perhaps it's nervousness about using the "H" word amongst certain
> > circles, unless ranting about those who are "goin' to heeelll".
>
> Those who use the word "homophobe" here over use it. It is coming to mean,
> the act of disagreeing with a political stand taken by homosexuals.
>
That's the Goebell's like propagandistic smear.
First, they set up the word to mean one thing...and then start using
it indiscriminately against ALL opponents.
> Rich Soyack
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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