Linux-Advocacy Digest #204, Volume #35 Wed, 13 Jun 01 20:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts getting
good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Laugh, it's hilarious. (Pookie)
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts getting
good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) ("Edward Rosten")
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts getting
good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-032 : SQL Query Method Enables Cached
Administrator Connection to be Reused ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: Debian 2.2r2, I *love* you! (longish) (Terry Porter)
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (David Fox)
Re: So what software is the NYSE running ? ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: IBM Goes Gay ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? (pip)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? (pip)
Re: Debian 2.2r2, I *love* you! (longish) (Terry Porter)
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (David Fox)
Re: Getting used to Linux (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (David Fox)
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: Laugh, it's hilarious. (Justme�)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:57:11 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, GreyCloud
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:35:55 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
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>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, drsquare
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote
>> on Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:04:55 +0100
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >On 12 Jun 2001 10:41:55 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)) wrote:
>> >
>> >>drsquare wrote:
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>> >>>On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:40:47 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> >>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine))
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>Some other countries might. It is not clear, for instance, whether
>> >>>>Cuba has such.
>> >>>
>> >>>But most other developed countries have more relaxed laws than
>> >>>America. For instance, in most countries you can look at a woman
>> >>>without being sued for sexual harassment.
>> >>
>> >>Not to mention most civilised countries allow 19 year old adults to drink
>> >>margaritas with their Mexican mush if they want to.
>> >
>> >Never mind Bush, they may as well bring back Hitler and be done with
>> >it.
>>
>> The trains did run on time... :-)
>
>Well, it won't be long now till this thread finishes...
One can but hope.
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From: Pookie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.aol-sucks,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Laugh, it's hilarious.
Reply-To: Duct Tape Divas
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:03:53 -0400
On 13 Jun 2001 00:33:50 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bigassburger)
returned from being abducted by aliens and wrote in some strange,
previously unheard of language:
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>lying....poppins....sounds good to me....sssllllurrrrrppp
You, sir, are a prevert!
I like that in a troll.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:57:25 +0100
>>But they're just fine criticizing the US for all manor of the world's
>>problems. It's all our fault, remember? How come you don't see the
>>French or the British sending all sorts of humanitarian aid to Africa?
>>
>>-c
> I think the phrase '...you don't see...' is very telling. Maybe you
> just didn't look in the right place?
s/right place/at all/
-Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:15:03 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, chrisv
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:39:27 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Because there was no point?
>
>Jealousy is an ugly thing...
>
No, I think he's right; I'm not sure there was any economic point
to continuing our manned moon program. It might have been good
for national pride, however -- and who knows what tech might
now be available had we done so. However, most of that tech apparently
could be developed right here on Earth (for example, closed-air
circulation systems would be just as useful on submarines),
and the only advantage of space appears to be growing purer
forms of various substances, such as medicinal drugs and
perhaps iron crystals, which don't require moon travel, merely
space (specifically, low-Earth-orbit) travel.
On the other hand, the moon is a convenient launch point, once there,
because of its low gravity. If we can get a self-sustaining colony
thereon, we might have the ability to get to the stars -- but it
would have to be self-sustaining, first.
But there's always curiousity; we want to get to Mars someday and
see if there was once life and liquid water there; some of the
moons look interesting as well (Europa might have liquid water
under all that ice; Titan might have liquid methane; Phobos and
Deimos would be interesting environments to tunnel into).
There might be a problem with Usenet connections thereto, though. :-)
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-032 : SQL Query Method Enables Cached
Administrator Connection to be Reused
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:16:11 +1200
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:jWLV6.13307$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Matt, if you want to get into a pissing match about bugs, thats your
> perogative, but all products have them, and the 60 or so security patches
> for Red Hat 7.0 are a good example.
>
>
How about those who don't use Redhat?
Matthew Gardiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Debian 2.2r2, I *love* you! (longish)
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 13 Jun 2001 23:19:35 GMT
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:41:00 +0000 (UTC),
Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Terry Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><snip!>
>
>: Firstly, in the past few days I've tried Redhat7.2 from a Magazine
>: cover and I'm dissapointed.
>
> I'd just like to know where that RedHat 7.2 came from,
> since the latest version on RedHat's site is only 7.1.
> Is there some weird beta floating around I've been unaware of?
>
Opps!
It was Redhat 7.1 !
My bad.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: 13 Jun 2001 16:23:08 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maynard Handley) writes:
> On a mac---I couldn't speak about other loser systems---I upgrade the OS
> on my machine by installing a new CD, hitting the "go" button, and coming
> back twenty minutes later. All done and it just works.
> I can NOT get that same ease of use when I want to upgrade to a new
> computer. In that case I have to spend large amounts of time moving
> material from the old computer to the new---but being careful to extract
> only some of the data from these folders into the folders on the new
> machine.
Actually, I can envision putting together a "one button" hardware
migration application for Linux pretty easily. Just connect the two
machines via ethernet, pop a boot CD into the new machine and power
on, choose the ethernet address of the other machine from a menu,
maybe enter its root password or something, and in ten or fifteen
minutes it clones the other machine's disk onto its own, reboots to
run the hardware configuration script (Kudzu), and (with some luck)
you are done. The components are all there, they just need to be
packaged. This is usually the situation with Linux software, all the
hard parts are there but the easy/boring/tedious part never gets done.
But the commercial distributions are getting on the ball in this
respect.
I think I'll suggest this to Redhat...
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So what software is the NYSE running ?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:23:18 +1200
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b278987$0$94309$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9g6d1g$akm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Yeap, by all means, please post it. What I am saying that if Microsoft
are
> > going to go out on tangents and offer services such as email, do a
descent
> > job of it!
>
> Top posting is really annoying.
>
> I'm still flabbergasted that you haven't figured out how to do a multiple
> delete.
>
> Click an email, hold SHIFT, click another email 15 emails away (or
> more, or less). hit the DEL key. It's THAT simple. I do it every
> day. I've done it with 2 emails, I've done it with >1000 emails.
> It works every time. It worked in OL97, it works in OL2000.
>
> I don't know what you're smoking, but it must be really bad stuff.
>
> -c
Hello? issue? hello? its still out there in the wilderness, still left
unanswered.
matthew Gardiner
--
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:25:39 +1200
"Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g8fr4$2mu3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9g60qb$218$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Its not a Europe vs. US argument, its a reality check. Here in New
> Zealand
> > for example, no body gives a toss if you are gay/bi/tri/uni/trans.
> However,
> > an easy way to put it is in the words of Monty Python, at the end of
"The
> > Meaning of Life: Scene, Death".
>
> Bullshit Matthew, and you know it. Just look at the fuss every year with
> the Hero parade.
A very small group of Yobbo's complaining because they can't organise a
hetro parade.
Matthew Gardiner
--
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:03 +0100
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Try writing a file compression utility in java. Now write that same
> > utility in C or C++ using all the nice features that C and C++
> > have. The function mmap(...) can make the whole compression chore as
> > easy as rifling through a buffer. There is no comparison, the C or
> > C++ code can be so much fatser and require fewer resources, than the
> > equivilent in Java or perl.
>
> Also, with Java, you sometimes have to regress a bit. For example,
> it's not very easy to write a simple function that swaps two variables
> in Java by passing them by reference. You have to do some strange
> mutations by creating a class just so you can work with objects. I
> think your only hope is to pass an array with two elements, and swap
> the two elements.
This is a bit odd. Sure you can return a container object or simply pass
in a container object. But really this is very very very trivial. I
think that I have *never* have to swap primitive data types such as you
describe. But if I did the C way is "easier", but you loose the safety
of protected pointers.
An odd example to site.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:30:53 +1200
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> > >
> > > Nutshell: Personal Responsibility.
> >
> > And it's quite obvious that gays don't have it.
> >
> > That's why a mere 1% of the population constitutes more than 50% of the
AIDS cases.
> >
> 1%? What fucking planet are you living on you?
> --
> http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
I never said the 1% bullshit. Just correct the figure, most cases, in
Eastern Europe, African and Asia are either hetro sex or drugs. Also, I was
assuming thats what AK was trying to say in his frantic hetro-fit.
Unfortunately/fortunately AK doesn't live in reality. Supposedly that is
because he went off to war like a good little boy, and somehow that makes
him the judge, jury and executioner. I've actually always wondered whether
AK was one of those kids that used to get beaten up all the time for acting
like a dick head.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the blue screen of death
nobody hears your scream's
Sepo is a cockney term for yank,
however, in New Zealand and Australia
a yank is a wank, well, same thing ;)
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:37:06 +0100
pip wrote:
> think that I have *never* have to swap primitive data types such as you
> describe.
I did not mean to say that :) I meant *any* datatype.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Debian 2.2r2, I *love* you! (longish)
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 13 Jun 2001 23:32:07 GMT
On 13 Jun 2001 13:07:38 -0500, Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Terry Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
>> Finally I tried Debian 2.2r2 and what a fresh breath of air it was,
>> more complex, than Mandrake, and I had to re install it 3 times, but
>> 2 of them were my fault, oh alright 2.5 and thats my final offer.
>
> So, did you try FreeBSD?
The version of FreeBsd I have is 2.2.7, and I did start installing it,
but when I realised it had no selection for scsi emulation (my Ricoh
CD burner) I chickened out.
> That install was pretty nice and simple as well.
> But, I was frustrated by one aspect of FreeBSD's sysinstall: the FTP install
> option is frustrating and buggy as hell! After I selected the DHCP option,
> it proceeded to guess all of the network parameters correctly. But, then it
> hung right at the "looking up host ftp6.freebsd.org..." dialog. Dammit, it
> should've been able to log right in, because it guessed the DNS servers
> correctly. When I did finally manage to get the ftp install to work, it
> botched the installation horribly.
Yuck!
>
> Then, I came to my senses, and realized that you can install from a DOS
> partition. Dammit, why didn't I just download the stuff required for a
> minimal install to my DOS partition, and then install from there? So, I
> booted into Windows, and downloaded the bin, doc, and manpages distibutions.
> Then, I booted back into the FreeBSD sysinstall floppy. This time, I
> selected "DOS partition" as the media that I would install from. It began
> installing immediately, and I did not have to tell it which device the DOS
> partition was located on. (It did it automatically.)
That sucks, even tho it works so well, I just dont have DOS anymore, I gave away
my dos 6.11 diskettes thet I paid $90 for.
>
> The install went flawlessly then. So, I learned my lesson, that I should ftp
> the ISO and burn the damned thing instead of screwing around with the ftp
> install option. Or, just download the minimum required files to a DOS
> partition. When it's installed, and your minimal installation works
> correctly, THEN you can screw around with the ftp installation of the rest of
> the distributions you need.
I'll bear that in mind, as I *will* be trying FreeBsd.
>
> I believe in doing a minimal install first to see if the darned thing is
> going to even boot or work.
Excellent advice Donn, you sound like you have a wealth of *real* experience.
>
> So yes, the FreeBSD 4.3-R install program is really fucked up if you try to
> ftp install it with the DHCP option. But otherwise, it's nice and simple, and
> works quite well. I guess the best thing if you have a cable modem is to
> download the ISO, and set your BIOS to boot from the CD, instead of screwing
> around with all the other crap.
Using 'Gftp' under Linux, and my trusty 33.3k modem can d/l about
110 megs overnight, so I'll get the FreeBsd and OpenBsd iso's that way
:)
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux
starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:33:24 +1200
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g83vt$ibq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <9g6n1h$i05$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >> More ideally, we should've listened more carefully to Patton, and just
> >> taken the USSR when we had the chance.
> >
> > How would that have helped? the US benefited in that the Soviet Union
> > created the first biological weapon, when the US originally thought it
> > would be impossible. First person in space, first sat. in space, first
> > woman in space, first space station in space,
>
> Not to mention the most successful (longest running) spacestation.
>
> -Ed
>From what I heard, It was actually running DIGITAL UNIX as their main OS.
Matthew Gardiner
--
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux
starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:34:56 +1200
> Well, well, lookie what we have here... another mullet rising up
> in the name of government handouts.
>
> As for US social problems vs. what's happening in Europe, I can
> vouch for the US not experiencing genocide within her borders
> like that which is taking place in Europe today.
What country(s) may that be?
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the blue screen of death
nobody hears your scream's
Sepo is a cockney term for yank,
however, in New Zealand and Australia
a yank is a wank, well, same thing ;)
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:37:35 +1200
> You overlook one important point there Matthew... after WWII was over
> with most of the industrialized world was in shambles. The U.S. was the
> only remaining industrial force left. Every man and woman in the 1950's
> could easily get a job without a hassle. Not like today. If there were
> no WWII we would still be down in the dumps.
MUST I also re-inforce the fact that Germany could not continue the war for
any longer. Even the German Economic Minister warned Hitler of the dire
consequences if the war carried on too far. Hitler, a fit of nationalism,
continued on. It was only matter of time.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the blue screen of death
nobody hears your scream's
Sepo is a cockney term for yank,
however, in New Zealand and Australia
a yank is a wank, well, same thing ;)
For AOL and earthlink lusers asking stupid questions:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: 13 Jun 2001 16:39:18 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pop) writes:
> Well, on Linux you DON'T have to spend large amounts of time doing that.
> The areas that need to be moved are quite well defined and the whole
> thing takes only a few commands. No need to spend hours pointing and
> clicking :-)
This is quite true, but only if you know a lot about Linux. There
should be a reduction of this task to terms understandable by people
who don't know as much.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:41:46 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Edward Rosten
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:02:00 +0100
<9g76m2$s75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> It was very crude (fvwm sucks rocks compared to NeXT Step or Workbench),
>
>Ha! Shows how much *you* know.
>
>FVWM is the ONE TRUE WINDOW MAGAGER anything else is the spawn of satan,
>pure and simple, much like vi nd emacs.
Oh brooooooooooooother. :-)
While I happen to like fvwm, I wouldn't call everything else
"the spawn of Satan". After all, Satan doesn't exist....
:-)
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:41:04 +1200
> Most of them feel its a lost cause. A lot of the poor see no difference
> in their lot after voting. A lot say there is no difference between a
> Republican and a Democrat...
> it's business as usual.
> I'm more interested in the local issues that affect me so I do vote.
The US created that bastardised system, now its time for it to be mended. I
have always suggested that the US adopt the west minster style government
via a MMP setup.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the blue screen of death
nobody hears your scream's
Sepo is a cockney term for yank,
however, in New Zealand and Australia
a yank is a wank, well, same thing ;)
For AOL and earthlink lusers asking stupid questions:
Seek and ye shall find
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: 13 Jun 2001 16:45:32 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maynard Handley) writes:
> I still don't see how cloning the disk solves my problem.
> I don't want an IDENTICAL copy of machine A on machine B. After all,
> machine A is running an OS from 2 yrs ago on a CPU from 4 yrs ago. I want
> a "conceptually" identical copy, but with the OS and hardware targetted
> bits replaced. This means doing the right thing with all the pre-loaded
> apps along with shared material like fonts and DLLs plus, of course, the
> registry.
Cloning the disk does solve half the problem, because the new hardware
is always backwards compatible. Follow the cloning with a conventional
operating system upgrade and your problem is solved.
> Perhaps you felt it was implied that I could use this cloning tool to
> shift stuff from say a Win98 box to a Win XP box, but to me it is not at
> all implied that this would actually work satisfactorily.
You are right, this procedure doesn't seem to work for Windows. It is
difficult to say why now, because the system internals are not accessable.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:44:51 +1200
> > Hey, don't destroy his fantasy that the universe revolves around
> > America.
>
> Well now,... lets see what happens to the world economy if the stock
> exchanges went belly up. Think your country is immune??
>
When the US economy was rapidly slowing down, New Zealand was expanding at
3.5-3.7%, fueled by the low dollar and increased dairy output. The US needs
an export backed recovery, throw the dollar down to say, 50US Cents to one
New Zealand Dollar, thus making it more competitive, imports cost more thus
protect local industry ligitimately, and the trade deficit comes down.
As for the stock exchange, the New Zealand has learnt from the 87 crash, but
apparently, the US hasn't.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the blue screen of death
nobody hears your scream's
Sepo is a cockney term for yank,
however, in New Zealand and Australia
a yank is a wank, well, same thing ;)
For AOL and earthlink lusers asking stupid questions:
Seek and ye shall find
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From: Justme� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.aol-sucks,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Laugh, it's hilarious.
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:21:28 -0400
Pookie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> like, said in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , and like,
I thought that, you know, I had to say something back:
> On 13 Jun 2001 00:33:50 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bigassburger)
> returned from being abducted by aliens and wrote in some strange,
> previously unheard of language:
>
> >"Pinocchio Poppins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:<1ptV6.1280$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...<poke>
> >
> >MMMMMMmmmmm...Pinocchio......wasn't that the guy that got hard when
> >lying....poppins....sounds good to me....sssllllurrrrrppp
>
> You, sir, are a prevert!
>
> I like that in a troll.
Then surely, he has helped!
--Ginny
"I like madness. I've discovered a secret. You don't
have to be online everyday. Its true. There _are_
other things to do. Like making salamis out of this
worlds oppressed."
--Herry, Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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