Linux-Advocacy Digest #257, Volume #35 Fri, 15 Jun 01 07:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Getting used to Linux ("Glitch")
Re: Linux freindly ISPs? ("Andy Jeffries")
Re: Linux wins again.... (pip)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (Thaddius
Maximus)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (Thaddius
Maximus)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (Thaddius
Maximus)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (Thaddius
Maximus)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance (Thaddius Maximus)
Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?) (Thaddius
Maximus)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (Thaddius
Maximus)
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance (Thaddius Maximus)
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (Thaddius
Maximus)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Rick)
Re: Getting used to Linux ("Ayende Rahien")
Linux Magic Filter Printing (Terry Porter)
Re: Getting used to Linux (mark34-@-)
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:54:02 +0100
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>
> Is that Postscript? I know a tiny bit of it from using psplot in LATeX.
It is indeed. If you want to see it, don't forget to include the
bracketed text at the top of the sig.
If you want to print it you need a
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as the first line.
-Ed
--
(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:21:34 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mark"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, F/@- wrote:
>>
>>For example, I bought ATI all-in-wonder radeon board, it is a TV tuner
>>card and video card in one. the ATI mutlimedia software that comes with
>>it and the driver and the the movie editing software all run on windows.
>>They do not run on Linux.
>
>
> Why did you buy a card with no Linux support, if as you say, you wanted
> to use Linux? Seems a bit unlikely to me.
>
as surprising as it may sound some people want to have all the features
of an ATI AIW board even if it does mean not being able to use it in
Linux. I'm glad my AIW (non Radeon) works in Linux and I can watch tv
with it and in windows i can capture video with it and watch tv also.
i dont like teh fact that Unrreal and Quake3 are mostly dependent on
having a Voodoo type board since it seems like those are the ones that
utilize OpenGL/Glide the most. I'd say blame there is split between Loki
and the vid card manufacturers. Loki could have made the games less
reliant on those libs but the manufactuers could have made their boards
compatible with the libs as well.
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From: "Andy Jeffries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freindly ISPs?
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:04:24 +0100
>> Shame, I'm on NTL cable and it rocks!!!
>
> Hmm. I've heard many bad things about NTL. the ycouldn't even get a
> perfectly ordinary iMac working.
I have only spoken to their tech support once and the girl (!) was
superb!!!
But, as linux developer I have a reasonable amount of knowledge
myself...
Cheers,
--
Andy Jeffries
Lead-developer of Scramdisk for Linux (SD4L)
Developer of the original Scramdisk Delphi Component
http://www.scramdisk.eu.org
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux wins again....
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:10:25 +0100
drsquare wrote:
> Benchmarks are bollocks.
You have such a way with words and reasoned arguments. Ever considered
becoming a politician ?
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:13:13 +0100
"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
>
> "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thaddius Maximus
> wrote:
> > >"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Most of them feel its a lost cause. A lot of the poor see no
> difference
> > >> > in their lot after voting. A lot say there is no difference between
> a
> > >> > Republican and a Democrat...
> > >> > it's business as usual.
> > >> > I'm more interested in the local issues that affect me so I do vote.
> > >>
> > >> The US created that bastardised system, now its time for it to be
> mended. I
> > >> have always suggested that the US adopt the west minster style
> government
> > >> via a MMP setup.
> > >>
> > >> Matthew Gardiner
> > >
> > >
> > >The USA is a republic system and foremost in this system is protection
> > >of inalienable rights and personal liberty. Our founding fathers were
> > >nothing short of geniuses and I like their chosen system just fine,
> > >thank you!
> > >
> >
> > Hm, I'm hoping that you're joking here? I would never suggest anyone
> > doesn't question their governmental system continuously. Failure
> > to do so will always result in far too much power lying with far too
> > few people.
>
> I don't think he's referring to the current state, or the
> way things were way back when. I think he's referring to
> the ideas and ideals that are genius. In such a case, I
> would agree, to the logical extent that such ways are the
> most realistic ideals to date.
>
Thank you! That is EXACTLY what I was suggesting. When I stated
that the Founding Fathers are pure geniuses I am not referring to
the abuse that the Constitution suffers in today's world, nor am
I making a statement about the times when the document was created.
What I am stating is that the document (US Constitution) is a piece
of work that was created from pure genius.
I happen to believe that it *is* the most important piece of paper
on the planet Earth.
> It is my contention that most politicians, be they
> Democrat, or Republican, are fscking morons. Look
> at how McCain has been waffling along. IMHO, Bush
> just happens to be one of the few exceptions to the
> rule.
>
Bush is doing as a president exactly what he promised
to the people before he was elected. We have national
energy policy and a national education policy. This is
something the American people have been without for the
past 8 years.
....
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:29:46 +0100
Rotten168 wrote:
>
> Thaddius Maximus wrote:
> >
> > drsquare wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:38:54 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > ("Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > >
> > > >"Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > >> Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact that
> > > >> here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his country,
> > > >> but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer? Where's
> > > >> the American freedom there?
> > > >
> > > >It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> > > >of the liberal mindset.
> > >
> > > Liberal mindset? How are such draconian laws liberal?
> > >
> > > >That law was as recent
> > > >as the 70's, IIRC. The reason why laws like
> > > >that one get put into place is because of
> > > >a lack of patriotism, and pride. People just
> > > >apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> > > >to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> > > >word.
> > >
> > > Well, that's democracy for you. If I was the absolute dictator of the
> > > world, such things would never happen.
> > >
> >
> > For the last time - the USA is NOT a democracy and has never been a
> > democracy. The USA is a republic!
>
> *sigh* I swear to God I've had to pull out Webster's every damn time I
> get involved in a flame war on USENET.
>
> Ahem.
>
> democracy n. 1. government by the people, either directly or through
> representatives
>
> republic n. a state or government in which the supreme power rests in
> all the citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives
> elected by them
>
> I'd say either or both would apply.
>
Well Brent, the Founding Fathers didn't really ask for your opinion
when they drew up the US Constituition, did they?
As an American, please educate yourself on the PROFOUND differnece
between a democracy and a republic:
http://www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2000/tst121200.htm
========
"There's a record of a famous conversation between Benjamin Franklin
and a Mrs. Powell of Philadelphia that went something like this:
Powell: 'What type of government has the Constitution formed?'
Franklin: 'A Republic, if we can keep it.'"
========
"a democracy is a dictatorship of the majority. Socrates was executed
by a democracy: though he harmed no one, the majority found him
intolerable. "
========
....
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:22:06 +0100
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Thaddius Maximus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > drsquare wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:38:54 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > ("Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > >
> > > >"Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > >> Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact that
> > > >> here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his country,
> > > >> but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer? Where's
> > > >> the American freedom there?
> > > >
> > > >It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> > > >of the liberal mindset.
> > >
> > > Liberal mindset? How are such draconian laws liberal?
> > >
> > > >That law was as recent
> > > >as the 70's, IIRC. The reason why laws like
> > > >that one get put into place is because of
> > > >a lack of patriotism, and pride. People just
> > > >apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> > > >to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> > > >word.
> > >
> > > Well, that's democracy for you. If I was the absolute dictator of the
> > > world, such things would never happen.
> > >
> >
> >
> > For the last time - the USA is NOT a democracy and has never been a
> > democracy. The USA is a republic!
>
> It's a democratic republic. It's a representative democracy which is
> a form of democracy. Either way, it's close enough, so stop bitching =)
>
If you are into media buzzwords, then yes, you are correct. But if
you value correct knowledge, then you are dead wrong.
The USA is neither a "democratic republic" nor a "representative
democracy."
The USA is a republic!
"Republican government: One in which the powers of sovereignty are
vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly,
or through representatives chosen by the people, to whome those powers
are specially delegated."
"Democracy: That form of government in which the sovereign power resides
in and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or
indirectly through a system of representation."
....
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:33:22 +0100
"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
>
> "Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Thaddius Maximus wrote:
> > >
> > > drsquare wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:38:54 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > > ("Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >"Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > >> Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact
> that
> > > > >> here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his
> country,
> > > > >> but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer?
> Where's
> > > > >> the American freedom there?
> > > > >
> > > > >It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> > > > >of the liberal mindset.
> > > >
> > > > Liberal mindset? How are such draconian laws liberal?
> > > >
> > > > >That law was as recent
> > > > >as the 70's, IIRC. The reason why laws like
> > > > >that one get put into place is because of
> > > > >a lack of patriotism, and pride. People just
> > > > >apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> > > > >to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> > > > >word.
> > > >
> > > > Well, that's democracy for you. If I was the absolute dictator of the
> > > > world, such things would never happen.
> > > >
> > >
> > > For the last time - the USA is NOT a democracy and has never been a
> > > democracy. The USA is a republic!
> >
> > *sigh* I swear to God I've had to pull out Webster's every damn time I
> > get involved in a flame war on USENET.
> >
> > Ahem.
> >
> > democracy n. 1. government by the people, either directly or through
> > representatives
> >
> > republic n. a state or government in which the supreme power rests in
> > all the citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives
> > elected by them
> >
> > I'd say either or both would apply.
>
> I agree. I think it would be more accurate
> to say that it is a republic, that has a
> democratic election and legislation process.
None of you get it! Do you??? It doesn't matter what you
think or believe, the FACT is the USA is a Republic. You
cannot change this!
Please take the opportunity to educate yourselves:
http://www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2000/tst121200.htm
....
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:38:53 +0100
"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>
> >>>>You think conservatives want people to become educated?
> >>>>Look at their education bills. They don't want you to have a clue about the
> >>>>true history of this country. Because if you did, you'd realize what true
> >>>>scoundrels they are. You sound as if you are their poster boy.
> >>>>
> >>>>You need to hit the books pal, and open your mind.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>For the first time in 8 years the USA has an education policy
> >>>under the Bush Administration. Under the Clinton Administration
> >>>the education policy consisted of nothing more than Slick Willie
> >>>chasing school girls his daughter's age.
> >>>
> >>Oh yeah, and removing all trace of religious freedom at the local
> >>level, not to mention spreading abortion propaganda and sex
> >>education which consisted of teachers encouraging students to
> >>lie on top of each other.
> >>
> >>-c
> >>
> >
> > Man, things sure have changed since I was in school!
> >
>
> I'm not too sure about the US education system, but could someone please
> go into detail on how/why it has degraded?
>
Too much immigration and not enough assimilation.
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:44:37 +0100
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:03:05 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> (GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >drsquare wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:04:53 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >> (Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> IOW, it was a lack of patriotism (ie: the love for one's
> >> >> country and its ideals) that put Europe in the shitter.
> >> >
> >> >Amen, brother!!! A country without patriotism is east pickins.
> >>
> >> It was patriotism that caused the war in the first place.
> >
> >Let us put it another way.... everyone invade Holland where you live and
> >see if anyone will defend.
>
> Why would anyone invade? And what has patriotism got to do with
> defending? And since when do I live in Holland?
Pipe down, tulip boy!
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:36:15 +0100
"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
>
> "Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Thaddius Maximus wrote:
> > >
> > > drsquare wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:38:54 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > > ("Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >"Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > >> Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact
> that
> > > > >> here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his
> country,
> > > > >> but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer?
> Where's
> > > > >> the American freedom there?
> > > > >
> > > > >It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> > > > >of the liberal mindset.
> > > >
> > > > Liberal mindset? How are such draconian laws liberal?
> > > >
> > > > >That law was as recent
> > > > >as the 70's, IIRC. The reason why laws like
> > > > >that one get put into place is because of
> > > > >a lack of patriotism, and pride. People just
> > > > >apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> > > > >to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> > > > >word.
> > > >
> > > > Well, that's democracy for you. If I was the absolute dictator of the
> > > > world, such things would never happen.
> > > >
> > >
> > > For the last time - the USA is NOT a democracy and has never been a
> > > democracy. The USA is a republic!
> >
> > *sigh* I swear to God I've had to pull out Webster's every damn time I
> > get involved in a flame war on USENET.
> >
> > Ahem.
> >
> > democracy n. 1. government by the people, either directly or through
> > representatives
> >
> > republic n. a state or government in which the supreme power rests in
> > all the citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives
> > elected by them
> >
> > I'd say either or both would apply.
>
> I agree. I think it would be more accurate
> to say that it is a republic, that has a
> democratic election and legislation process.
The US legislation process is purely republic by design and our
elections are not by mob rule (democratic).
As Americans, you guys are starting to seriously embarrass me.
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:57:35 +0100
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Thaddius Maximus"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Edward Rosten wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > If you are going to bash the US incessantly please understand that
> >> >> > the USA is a republic and NOT a democracy.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's a representative democracy.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No, it's a republic! The term "representative democracy" is purely
> >> > to satisfy those who cannot grasp that the USA is a republic and who
> >> > remain committed to believing that the USA is a democracy. It's
> >> > simply a term to satisfy the ignorant.
> >>
> >> You seem to be incapable of understanding that it can be a republic run
> >> as a representative democracy.
> >>
> >
> > You seem to be struggling with the word "representative." You seem to
> > think that the word cannot be used in describing both forms of
> > government. See below:
>
>
> > "Republican government: One in which the powers of sovereignty are
> > vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly,
> > or through representatives chosen by the people, to whome those powers
> > are specially delegated."
> >
> > "Democracy: That form of government in which the sovereign power resides
> > in and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or
> > indirectly through a system of representation."
>
> Look carefully at what you wrote. If you look at the bit referring to
> "representative" in both descriptions, then they describe the same thing.
>
> A republic run by representatitves which are democratically elected is a
> representative democracy. The reverse isn't true.
>
> > The USA, is without doubt, a Republic. Sorry to bust your bubble Ed,
> > but there is no democracy form of government in the USA!!!
>
> You democratically elect the representatives.
>
>
> > This is fact. The founding fathers layed this out, not me, so take it
> > up with Ben Franklin if you still have a gripe!
>
> You seem unable to realise that the 2 terms are not mutually exclusive.
>
*sigh* Obviously for you the devil is in the details. Please
read the following over and over and over until it sinks in.
http://www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2000/tst121200.htm
Our elected representatives make decisions for the people
based on what they believe is in our best interest (republic),
they do not tally up our opinion on each matter and then decide
accordingly (democracy).
As for your statement that we "democratically elect the
representatives," I have no idea what that means. We do
elect representatives.
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:07:35 +0100
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Thaddius Maximus wrote:
> >
> > Edward Rosten wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Thaddius Maximus"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >> news:9g7njd$9ko$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> > > Cultured? The French/Germans/Italians are cultured, the British are
> > > >> > > no more cultured than the Americans.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The average levelof culture is falling rapidly, but we've got a long
> > > >> > way to go to catch you guys up. Still proud to be forging a new path
> > > >> > at the head of the world?
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> The Conservative's had a crushing defeat :) well, it definately shows
> > > >> that the British public aren't about to be sucked into the "lower tax"
> > > >> hype created by the Bush admin. in the US. Well, hopefully Tony
> > > >> Blaire's second term will be a good one. Oh, also, what's even better,
> > > >> we know who won! unlike the US election that just dragged on and on.
> > > >> Mind you, I never followed it, esp. when a nation that preaches
> > > >> democracy doesn't practice it when election time rolls around.
> > > >>
> > > >> Matthew Gardiner
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you are going to bash the US incessantly please understand that the
> > > > USA is a republic and NOT a democracy.
> > >
> > > It's a representative democracy.
> > >
> >
> > No, it's a republic! The term "representative democracy" is purely
> > to satisfy those who cannot grasp that the USA is a republic and who
> > remain committed to believing that the USA is a democracy. It's
> > simply a term to satisfy the ignorant.
> >
> > Nowhere in the US Constitution can the word "democracy" be found,
> > must less the term "representative democracy."
> >
> > The biggest abusers of the term democracy, embarrassingly and
> > unfortunately, are US politicans.
> >
> > ....
>
> The term "representative democracy" was devised by the democratic party
> and the tabloid press. Repeat an error often enough and long enough and
> people will start to believe in the big lie.
>
Thank you GreyCloud!!! I relize that I have been banging the heck
out of this subject matter, but damn it, Americans should at least
understand their own form of government. And non-Americans should
at least come to terms that they should never approach me about
how America is breaking its vows to the democratic oath.
I am proud to be an American and I am governed by a Republic!!!
....
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush.limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:14:14 -0400
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > drsquare wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:41:26 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > > (Cray Drygu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > > >>Heterosexual contact - -
> > > > >>MALE 23,361 -
> > > > >>FEMALE 43,128 -
> > > > >>TOTAL - 66,490
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey look, you proved him right.
> > > > >
> > > > >By the way, how's the paint on your V key doing? You've been doing a
> > > > >heck of a lot of pasting recently. Too bad your pasted stats don't
> > > > >make sense as a reply to over half the posts you replied to with them.
> > > >
> > > > And the fact that there is no evidence that the stats are even close
> > > > to valid.
> > >
> > > Other than the coffins...
> > >
> >
> > You miaght also like to know, that according to lates statistics, we
> > havnet seen the median case yet. Do you have any idea what that means?
>
> Define median case.
>
Um, thats whaT I wanted you to answer. Can we assume you dont know what
that is?
> >
> > > And the Gay-"rights" activists always running around demanding
> > > MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE AIDS research
> > >
> > > If Gays aren't the overwhelming victims of AIDS, then why is
> > > it an issue for gay activists?
> > >
> > > Hmmmmmmmm?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> >
> > == In this country== the largest percentage of HIV infected people ( as
> > far as we know) are homosexuals. In the rest of the world, they are
> > overwhelmingly heterosexual. In this country gay activists are quite
> > vocal and some are quite prominent, so they get noticed.
NOTE: no response.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:09:58 +0200
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i dont like teh fact that Unrreal and Quake3 are mostly dependent on
> having a Voodoo type board since it seems like those are the ones that
> utilize OpenGL/Glide the most. I'd say blame there is split between Loki
> and the vid card manufacturers. Loki could have made the games less
> reliant on those libs but the manufactuers could have made their boards
> compatible with the libs as well.
You could also add Linux to the list, if it want to be used for games, it
should provide an abstraction library.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Linux Magic Filter Printing
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 15 Jun 2001 10:34:35 GMT
Hi all,I'm setting up my new Debian system,and fount the 'magicfilter'
package,this makes print setup easy, and supports the following
printers :-
StylusColor-1520@1440dpi StylusColor-500@360dpi
StylusColor-500@720dpi StylusColor-600@1440dpi StylusColor-600@360dpi
StylusColor-600@720dpi StylusColor-800@1440dpi StylusColor-800@360dpi
StylusColor-800@720dpi StylusColor-II-IIs@360dpi StylusColor-II@720dpi
StylusColor-IIs@720dpi StylusColor-generic StylusColor@360dpi
StylusColor@720dpi bj10e bj200 bj600 bj600_draft bj610 bj800 bj800_draft cps300
cps400 cps600 cpsonly300 cpsonly400 cpsonly600 deskjet dj500 dj500c
dj550c dj690c dj690c-best dj690c-low epson9 epson9c epsonlq epsonlqc
ibmpro jetp3852 la50 la75 laserjet laserjetlo lbp8 lj250 ljet2p
ljet2plo ljet3 ljet4 ljet4050 ljet4l ljet4m ljet4ml ljetplus
ljetpluslo ln03 m8510 necp6 oki182 pj pjxl pjxl300 ps300 ps400 ps600
psonly300 psonly400 psonly600 r4081 stylus800 tek4693 tek4696
--
Kind Regards from Terry
My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.
Free Micro burner: http://jsno.downunder.net.au/terry/
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From: mark34-@- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: 15 Jun 2001 03:02:25 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>
>Why did you buy a card with no Linux support, if as you say,
>you wanted to use Linux? Seems a bit unlikely to me.
May be because he liked that specific card?
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