Linux-Advocacy Digest #260, Volume #35 Fri, 15 Jun 01 10:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Getting used to Linux ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: What does XP stands for ??? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux
starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) (Matthew
Gardiner)
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (Dan Pidcock)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Dan)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Dan)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Macman)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...) ("Chad
Myers")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...) ("Chad
Myers")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...) ("Chad
Myers")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...) ("Chad
Myers")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...) ("Chad
Myers")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...) ("Chad
Myers")
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Dan)
Re: More microsoft innovation (Dan)
Re: What does XP stands for ??? ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Ayende Rahien")
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:09:41 +0200
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9gcus9$jc4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <9gcn40$dna$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> >> i dont like teh fact that Unrreal and Quake3 are mostly dependent on
> >> having a Voodoo type board since it seems like those are the ones that
> >> utilize OpenGL/Glide the most. I'd say blame there is split between
> >> Loki and the vid card manufacturers. Loki could have made the games
> >> less reliant on those libs but the manufactuers could have made their
> >> boards compatible with the libs as well.
> >
> > You could also add Linux to the list, if it want to be used for games,
> > it should provide an abstraction library.
>
> It does: OpenGL.
>
> Or are you referring to a more general API?
Something more general, I think.
How is OpenGL performance when you've a card/driver that doesn't support it,
btw?
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does XP stands for ???
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:12:01 +1200
Stuart Fox wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>>With the inclusion of raw sockets, its now known as eXPloitation
>>
>>
> You really are dense aren't you Matt? One guy complains because MS
> completes it's sockets implementation to make it standards compliant, and
> now it's a security hole? It's a security hole in most *nixes then as
> well.
>
>
>
How many complete, and utter luser/morons do you see using UNIX?
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux
starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:15:01 +1200
Rotten168 wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>
>>Rotten168 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thaddius Maximus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, well, lookie what we have here... another mullet rising up
>>>>>>>in the name of government handouts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As for US social problems vs. what's happening in Europe, I can
>>>>>>>vouch for the US not experiencing genocide within her borders
>>>>>>>like that which is taking place in Europe today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>What country(s) may that be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Balkan countries.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>They aren't in the European Union and as a result donot come under the
>>>>European Union's Humans Rights Act.
>>>>
>>>>Matthew Gardiner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Regardless, it occurred and Europeans did nothing to stop it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>THe holocast was occuring for years, business mean like Ford used forced
>>labour in Germany during the war, yet the US did nothing about it. So,
>>I'd say the US is tarnished with the same brush.
>>
>>Matthew gardiner
>>
>
> No doubt... but no one is innocent. What's important is that it doesn't
> happen again.
>
However, it seems the Jews haven't learnt. They sign a peace treaty with
the palastinians, they two days later INVADE the territory, settle, then
wonder why the palistinians are so pissed off! whats worse, the US does
nothing about it! Hence the reason why the Palistinians believe the US
is bias against them.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pidcock)
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance...
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:19:15 GMT
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:41:32 +0100, Thaddius Maximus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stephen Cornell wrote:
>> Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > Thanks for the offer Doc, but an educated fellow like yourself should
>> > have no problem with a search engine.
>>
>> I did. It's your turn to put up, or shut up.
>
>Oh fer christ's sake, doc, you are a stubborn one, ain't cha?
>
>Scroll down to: "In Recent Years"
>http://www.encyclopedia.com/printablenew/04603.html
>
>http://www.probe.org/docs/c-foreign2.html
>
>For some strange reason they list the billions in terms of millions
>ie, $14,896 million:
That'll be because the term billion has different meanings in
different parts of the world: US = 1,000 million; UK = 1 million
million.
>http://www.aerotechnews.com/starc/2000/102700/Foreign_Aid.html
remove .hatespam to reply
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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: 15 Jun 2001 08:26:08 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Now if I'm the owner of a website and someone using M$ software comes
> > > along and alters my site, I should think my lawyer is going to be
> > > contacting someone about what unauthorized actions they have done. I
> > > want to think I' see a legal issue here.
> >
> > Your site is not changed by this. Only the display of the page on the
> > computer running XP has certain words underlined to create new links.
> > Your page has not changed AT ALL.
>
> I still don't like the idea of someone changing or adding to the content
> of my page. Hyperlinks are part of the content.
So what about using a text only browser? Have I "changed your page" by
eliminating the graphics?
Same thing.
Dan
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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: 15 Jun 2001 08:27:09 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >
> > "Woofbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Now if I'm the owner of a website and someone using M$ software comes
> > > > > along and alters my site, I should think my lawyer is going to be
> > > > > contacting someone about what unauthorized actions they have done. I
> > > > > want to think I' see a legal issue here.
> > > >
> > > > Your site is not changed by this. Only the display of the page on the
> > > > computer running XP has certain words underlined to create new links.
> > > > Your page has not changed AT ALL.
> > >
> > > I still don't like the idea of someone changing or adding to the content
> > > of my page. Hyperlinks are part of the content.
> >
> > It's not hyper links, it has a distinctly different look.
> > It's obvious that it's not the page author that put it there.
> > You hover the mouse over a word with a wavy line underneath, and it pop a
> > little graphic, that lets you do stuff about it.
> > Frex, CompaQ, you get to go to the comapny's site, view stock information,
> > read press releases, etc.
>
> Who put the wavy line in the page?
> If you put wavy lines in my page you violate my copyright and may be
> guilty of vandalism.
No way. I'm free to change fonts, eliminate graphics, turn off
cookies, etc.
Dan
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From: Macman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:31:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Now if I'm the owner of a website and someone using M$ software comes
> > > > along and alters my site, I should think my lawyer is going to be
> > > > contacting someone about what unauthorized actions they have done. I
> > > > want to think I' see a legal issue here.
> > >
> > > Your site is not changed by this. Only the display of the page on the
> > > computer running XP has certain words underlined to create new links.
> > > Your page has not changed AT ALL.
> >
> > I still don't like the idea of someone changing or adding to the content
> > of my page. Hyperlinks are part of the content.
>
> So what about using a text only browser? Have I "changed your page" by
> eliminating the graphics?
>
> Same thing.
>
Not even close.
You, as a user, have certain rights under the fair use doctrine.
Presumably, looking at the text only, or changing fonts, or similar
things would fall under fair use.
Microsoft, as a third party, does not have the same rights. They do have
the rights to fair use, but what they're doing would almost certainly
not fall under that doctrine.
Your analogy stinks.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush.limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:36:18 -0400
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> >
> > > Other than the coffins...
> > >
> > > And the Gay-"rights" activists always running around demanding
> > > MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE AIDS research
> > >
> > > If Gays aren't the overwhelming victims of AIDS, then why is
> > > it an issue for gay activists?
> > >
> > > Hmmmmmmmm?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, in New Zealand I hear the gay community saying they would rather
> > promote more prevention, rather than the ambulance at the bottom of the
> > cliff senario. Maybe instead of cure, prevention would be a better way
> > of using the resources.
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
>
> If I recall right, San Francisco was notorious for gay bathhouses that
> ran all night.
> When aids became a problem, most of the bathhouses shutdown. I suspect
Ironically, it was RONALD REAGAN who was pushing for them to be
shut down....and the gay community later accused him of "not
doing anything" about AIDS.
Left wingers are all about hypocrisy..
> that this helped in reducing the spread of aids some. Then public
> education on tv started via commercials, but the aids has gotten into
> every sector of life its starting to blur the lines. Africa, at least
> what we've been spoon fed on the news, is suffering heavily from aids.
> Not exactly sure what their real problem is over there. The news is
> sort of vague about it.
I'm willing to bet that a LOT more of the men who get it are
picking it up through homosexual contact than are willing to
admit it.
>
> --
> V
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:37:43 -0500
"Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:4NbW6.607$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9g9vfk$m84$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <TaWV6.679$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stephen S. Edwards II"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > >> Stephen S. Edwards II spouted:
> > >>
> > >> >The fact is, if Europe hadn't dragged us into their little conflict ..
> > >>
> > >> The Japs. The Japs brought the US into WWII. What's the matter, don't
> > >> you go to the cinema?
> > >
> > > Perhaps that was poorly worded. As I said in my reply to Steve, if
> > > Europe had banded together properly to face off against the Nazis, they
> > > would have squished them instantly. Japan never would have been
> > > influenced to attack us, and we wouldn't have gotten dragged into it in
> > > the first place.
> > >
> > > And as for Pearl Harbor, I have no interest in seeing Hollywierd's
> > > interpretation of events.
> >
> > Eh?
> >
> > The Japs certainly destroyed Pearl Harbour which was one of the key
> > events in the war.
>
> Yes, it was _the event_ which brought us into it,
> but it never would have happened if Europe had
> properly banded together. The only reason why
> the Japanese attacked was because we (the U.S.
> and Canada) were one of the few thwarting forces
> left. That's all I'm saying.
>
> A lack of patriotism led to their falling in
> the end as well (the Nazis). The Japanese, long
> known to be conquerors, needed something a bit
> more drastic... the A-bomb.
>
> Do you see what I'm trying to say here?
>
> > However, I agree with you about holywood's interpretation. I have read
> > several scathing reviews about yet another rewrite of history. Much like
> > U571. Disgusting if you ask me.
>
> You can thank the liberals in this country for that
> kind of tripe. People like Oliver Stone. Furrfu.
>
> And if you ask me, the very fact that Alec Baldwin
> is in PH is enough for me to ignore its existence.
I'm suprised they hired Ben Aflek, I thought they
would've put Bill Clinton in there himself.
Have you seen all the recent news coverage of them?
It's like the news media in America could care less
about everything else if there's a story on Bill Clinton
to be covered. It's like he's their Pope.
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:39:51 -0500
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9gclb4$cjm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> The Japs certainly destroyed Pearl Harbour which was one of the key
> >> events in the war.
> >
> > Yes, it was _the event_ which brought us into it, but it never would
> > have happened if Europe had properly banded together. The only reason
> > why the Japanese attacked was because we (the U.S. and Canada) were one
> > of the few thwarting forces left. That's all I'm saying.
>
> Bollocks. Europe underestimated the Nazis. The US underestimated the Nazis
> as well, which is why they waited until they were attacked to enter the
> war. Perl harbour could have been one of the most fortunate events which
> happened to the US.
>
>
>
> > A lack of patriotism led to their falling in the end as well (the
> > Nazis). The Japanese, long known to be conquerors, needed something a
> > bit more drastic... the A-bomb.
>
> That's bullshit as well, then Nazis lost because they were fighting a much
> larger and stronger enemy with more resources, after having used up most
> of theirs.
>
> The US didn't drop the A-Bomb because the the Japs patriotism, they
> dropped it for several reasons. The Japs had an active and advanced
> nuclear program and they didn't want the USSR to get to the Japs first.
Well, the main reason is that an assault on Japan itself would've
cost far more lives than the bombs dropped. It's unfortunate either would've
had to happen, but no one asked the Japanese to invade Manchuria or
any of the Pacific islands.
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:40:32 -0500
"Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>
>
> >Liberals? What are you on about. I think the US and UK definition of
> >Liberal must differ somewhat since you attribute many evils to them which
> >are completely unrealated, even oppersite to the things liberals here
> >want.
>
> Yeah, when Americans say "liberal" they mean something like "socialist".
> They can't say "socialist" because they've already warped that to mean
> "communist", which of course has been twisted to mean "unamerican".
>
> Unfortunately, it leaves no word for them to describe what we would call
> liberals. Libertarians are almost there, but have some illiberal kinks.
What? Libertarians are as far from liberals/communists as you can get.
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:40:57 -0500
"Peter K�hlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > From what I gather, Matthew is a Kiwi.
> >
> > What is it with Kiwis that they are so self
> > important? They are way worse than even Brits.
> > They list New Zealand along with the US, Britain,
> > Chinda, and the former Soviet Union, as if
> > New Zealand is larger than just that little island.
> >
>
> NZ is *two* large islands, not one small.
> It is certainly a lot bigger than Britain.
Perhaps in land mass, but again, who cares?
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:42:10 -0500
"Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:5NbW6.608$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3b28eb00$0$94313$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:F6TV6.314$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:9g72gl$qqf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > Ignorance must be bliss in the US, hence the reason why so many
> > > > groups/nations just want to blow the crap out of the country.
> > > >
> > > > Have you ever been outside the US once? maybe you should realise the
> world
> > > > doesn't stop at the shores of the US.
> > >
> > > Germany, Japan, France, Egypt, Holland, etc.
> > >
> > > As I said, all of the alternatives I've seen
> > > so far suck. Hence, why I've stayed here.
> > >
> > > *Yawn!*
> > >
> > > Same old same old. Non-U.S. folks always say
> > > that very same statement, when their reason
> > > runs out, and they have no more ammo to back
> > > up their ludicrous socialist ideals. "Have
> > > you ever been outside the U.S.?" How typical.
> > >
> > > BTW, how many times has the U.S. been invaded?
> >
> > Actually, the British invaded in the War of 1812,
> > but they were quickly disposed of.
>
> True, but that was before we were a complete nation.
> We were still just learning to walk.
>
> > > Zero.
> > >
> > > But still, I guess our way of life must be
> > > weak and pathetic nonetheless, because some
> > > socialist ne'er-do-well weenie on the other
> > > side of the world says so.
> >
> > From what I gather, Matthew is a Kiwi.
> >
> > What is it with Kiwis that they are so self
> > important? They are way worse than even Brits.
> > They list New Zealand along with the US, Britain,
> > Chinda, and the former Soviet Union, as if
> > New Zealand is larger than just that little island.
>
> Pardon? What exactly is a "Kiwi"?
It's a term for a New Zealander. From what I understand,
it's not derogatory (at least, I didn't mean it that way).
Just like Yank, or Brit, etc.
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:44:42 -0500
"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
>
> > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> >>Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>>news:9g8v9n$av3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>YATY = Yet Another Typical Yank
> >>>>
> >>>>You have now been kill filed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Take notes, people. Defeatist and
> >>>non-confrontational types are
> >>>always defeated.
> >>>
> >>I didn't killfile you, I jus wanted to hear another pathetic reply.
> >>
> >
> > Stating that you have *PLONK!*'ed someone, only
> > to reply yet again, is absolutely absurd. If you
> > didn't put me in your filter, then why the fuck
> > did you say so? It speaks volumes about your
> > credibility.
> >
> >
> >>btw, wtf is it with the II after your name?
> >>
> >
> > My father's name is Stephen S. Edwards. I'll
> > let you do the math.
>
>
> Why not have an original name?
In America, it's considered an honor to carry your father's
name.
You will see people named "First Last Jr." or II, or even
III. Typically, if you get to III or greater, it's in
a well-to-do family who had an important patriarch.
-c
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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: 15 Jun 2001 08:51:07 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It figures you would cchampoion micro$ofts changing the appearnce of
> other people's pages. Micro$of has no right to change the prsentation of
> someone else's page. NONE.
Microsoft isn't changing anything. *I* changed the appearance on *my*
computer. I can also turn off graphics, sounds, videos, change fonts
and sizes, background colors, etc.
Why is this any different?
Frankly, after turning it on (I have Windows XP here) I like it. I
think you folks complaining about it simply haven't seen it in action
and/or don't understand how it works and what it does.
Dan
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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More microsoft innovation
Date: 15 Jun 2001 08:53:08 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Becasuse I want to control the links on my page MY PAGE. The page -I
> wrote-. I dont want micro$oft deciding where peole should go from my
> page.
Why? Do you want to control the fonts on YOUR PAGE? The colors? The
graphics? The sounds? The videos? The regular hyperlinks?
I can change/turn off all of these just as easily. Why aren't you
complaining about these?
Dan
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does XP stands for ???
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:52:25 +0200
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Stuart Fox wrote:
>
> > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >>With the inclusion of raw sockets, its now known as eXPloitation
> >>
> >>
> > You really are dense aren't you Matt? One guy complains because MS
> > completes it's sockets implementation to make it standards compliant,
and
> > now it's a security hole? It's a security hole in most *nixes then as
> > well.
> >
> >
> >
>
> How many complete, and utter luser/morons do you see using UNIX?
Well, Aaron says he uses *nix...
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:53:24 +0200
"Macman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You, as a user, have certain rights under the fair use doctrine.
> Presumably, looking at the text only, or changing fonts, or similar
> things would fall under fair use.
>
> Microsoft, as a third party, does not have the same rights. They do have
> the rights to fair use, but what they're doing would almost certainly
> not fall under that doctrine.
>
> Your analogy stinks.
Don't I, as the user, have a right to *want* those smart tags?
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:03:48 +0200
"Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:5NbW6.608$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Pardon? What exactly is a "Kiwi"?
A type of fruit
http://www.stockpix.com/stock/agricult/7902.jpg
Normally grows in New Zeland.
I don't like it.
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