On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 03:03:24AM +1100, Anton Blanchard wrote:
> 
> > > Would it be worth renaming the mb/rmb/wmb to io_mb/io_rmb/io_wmb?
> > > After all, I believe they should only be used to flush I/O memory
> > > accesses. This would, I think, make the distinction between memory
> > > barriers for I/O and memory barriers for SMP more obvious.
> > 
> > Are you joking or genuinely confused?
> 
> To be fair there are a lot of confused people out there. A few examples:

Yep, and I'm one of them.  Never having worked on the alpha or sparc
ports, i'm pretty barrier-uneducated.  Let me recap my understanding
(and thanks to dhowells for our irc chat earlier) ...

 - barrier() is a *compiler* barrier.  It does not affect how the CPU
   reorders instructions.
 - wmb() ensure that other CPUs and devices doing DMA observe writes 
   to memory before the wmb() before the writes after the wmb()
 - rmb() ensures preceeding reads from memory complete before reads that
   come after the rmb()
 - mb() is the same as wmb(); rmb();
 - io_*mb() are equivalent, for io memory.
 - smp_*mb() no barrier on UP and specified barrier on SMP

> 1. My original patch showed there are a number of places we use memory
> barriers on UP when not required. Getting rid of mb/rmb/wmb would help
> this, people are unlikely to sprinkle io_mb in the scheduler code :)
> 
> 2. drivers/net/typhoon.c
> 
>                 INIT_COMMAND_NO_RESPONSE(cmd, TYPHOON_CMD_HELLO_RESP);
>                 smp_wmb();
>                 writel(ring->lastWrite, tp->ioaddr + TYPHOON_REG_CMD_READY);
> 
> it looks a lot like smp_wmb is being used to order IO.

This is a tricky one because I think we're writing to memory, then
writing the address of memory to IO.  So we need to ensure that memory
writes complete before the next IO write, right?

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