On Sat 07 Apr, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:20:41PM +0000, Wookey wrote:
> > I have to say I don't think I have ever met anyone before who wanted to
> > go back to RedHat after using Debian, especially when the choice (on the
> > rpc) also involves aout vs elf, but of course it is your choice (and this
> > is not the place for an argument on the subject :-).
> Lets get the facts straight here, shall we? Firstly, lets separate
> out a _very_ important distinction.
> 1. The stuff on my FTP site is _not_ produced by RedHat, period.
> 2. The stuff on my FTP site can _not_ be used to judge a RedHat
> distribution by.
> 3. The stuff on my FTP site is _not_ RedHat, period.
> The stuff on my FTP site is a half-baked mixture of extremely old various
> bits'n'pieces which has stuff missing left right and centre
Of course - no-one is arguing with any of that. I was mixing two entirely
separate points above
1) whether people prefer Debian or RedHat on their desktops
(x86/ARM/whatever),
2) Available 'distributions' for the RiscPC - the choice being 'Russell's FTP
stuff' - invariably referred to as 'RedHat', however innacurately, or Debian
(the standard Debian-ARM distro, or the tailored-for-the-RiscPC Aleph One
version)
All I said was that in both these cases I had never before met anyone who
wanted to go back the 'Redhat' after using 'Debian'. That is still true,
although I'm sure there _are_ people who tried Debian on their x86 box and
found they preferred RedHat, but I haven't met any and that's actually
hopelessly off-topic for this list.
> I repeat again, the stuff on the FTP site is _not_ representative of a
> RedHat system, and if you think it is, then, erm, well...
> It was placed there as a kick off for ARM Linux, which it has done
> successfully.
Of course, and I think many of use are impressed at how far you got as
pretty-much a one-man band.
> > Anyway, so far as I know no-one is working on updating the RedHat
> > stuff apart from Russell doing bits and pieces essentially for his
> > own purposes.
> And the reason that no one is working on that is because various people
> enjoy spreading FUD about RedHat,
I hope you are not accusing me of spreading FUD? I do my very best to only
spread sweetness, light, and helpful information :-) As I said above, I stand
by what I said in my message - it was factual and to the point - it was not
intended to denigrate anything - simply record what I knew and thus try to
answer the question. I'm sorry if you've taken offense (again).
> or are daft enough to believe that
> what I have on my FTP site is RedHat, and believe that it can't possibly
> produce a working system.
It does produce a working system, but as you say a very old and significantly
limited one. You are not suggesting that people should be recommending that
risc-pc users would be best-off using what is available there are you?
Of course someone is free to do an updated distro based on RedHat sources if
they want to (eg Stefan Hanske's stuff which is indeed still there), but
given the limited number of people interested in Risc-PC support then fixing
the bugs in the existing Debian stuff would be a much more productive use of
time, and beneficial to many more people IMHO.
Wookey
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