Paul Barton-Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If I give up on "audible x-fades", then maybe I can get rid of all the
> hairiness. And you know what ? I checked with some Cubase users, and
> as I would have expected, there is a definite "click" when you go
> punch in/out. 

It seems that it would be just incrementally more difficult to do a
"fade out/fade in" instead of either a true crossfade or a click.  If
you can fade in/out over just a few milliseconds, you will eliminate
the click but still not have the "sample accurate" monitoring problem.
A dropout of 10 mS or so won't be noticed in a punch-in scenario.

> If you toggle the monitor signal between pre-existing material and the
> recorded stuff, there *has* to be a click, because they are delayed
> w.r.t. to each other, so you have a waveform jump. 

Well, the click just comes when you jump discontinuously across a
"large" interval in sample space.  Making sure the jump happens at a
zero crossing will do a great job of getting rid of it, and a 
fade out/fade in would accomplish that. 

It's not too important to me to have a "perfect" sample-locked monitor
stream for punch in, but it would be irritating to have a loud click
which would probably trigger the musician to ask if that was on the
tape, followed by lengthy discussion.

> I haven't yet figured out (or checked) if the Alesis ADATs click, but
> I doubt it. 

They don't.  I don't know the exact mechanism for avoiding it, but I
doubt it's an analog delay.  Probably some trick of fade out/in,
crossfade, or switch-at-zero-crossing.

b.g.


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