On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:07:27PM +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote: > On 05/23/2010 10:22 PM, Chris Cannam wrote: > > [...] > > > ... by which I don't mean to imply that I can't understand it > > (although, with C++, there is always the possibility that I _think_ I > > can understand it but am sadly mistaken because of some weird shit > > happening behind the scenes). I just mean that I can't simply read > > it. > > I once read a great (and funny) article arguing that you simple can't assume > anything about what the following means in C++: > > a = b + c > > Nothing
yeah. but if thats not a concatenation or an addition the programmer of the operator overload should be shot on sight. > > > This may be one really serious advantage for the everything-in-C types > > -- a competent C programmer can understand any C, whereas C++ is big > > enough to have many different "schools of C++" which are mutually > > unintelligible without further study. > > > > That's also the seed of its popularity, I suppose -- everyone can > > write the way they like in it, and if you can't work out how to do it > > properly, you can always drop back into C. > > Yeah, C rocks :-) > > But, the problem is that, in my experience, C++ can increase productivity by a > factor of x10 or so over C. It's my personal experience. Very often, I have to > consider making a choice between the two, and I often end up coding the engine > in C and the rest in C++ or a dynamic language. hmm.. i dont really see the advantage of writing an engine in C. first of all you loose RAII locks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_Acquisition_Is_Initialization then you need to manage most memory yourself again.... could you explain your reasons a bit more ? > > But maybe that, with experience and methodology, one can get as productive in > C > as in C++? I suppose the guys at Gnome would agree with that.. there is a reason why gob2 and vala emerged. writing a GObject in C is a pretty big PITA. its probably possible to create the boilerplate out of some kind of template. but i am not aware of some rails/paster like framework to create this boilerplate with a single command. > > -- > Olivier -- torben Hohn _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
