On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:09:57PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 07:24:20AM +0200, torbenh wrote: > > > This IDE with all this syntax checking and refactoring tools (and I might > > > call > > > them bells and whistles sometimes..) produces a real "added value". > > > > > > That makes me think that the development environment can really completely > > > change the way you perceive a language or framework. There must be > > > something to > > > do for C lovers too, be it in Eclipse or not. > > > > it will probably work similarly if you use eclipse cdt. > > but i prefer to have a real buildsystem with C++ > > and then eclipse doesnt know about your c files. > > Knowing what a huge productivity boost Eclipse gives for Java, I was a bit > underwhelmed by CDT - but perhaps I just somehow hadn't configured it > completely.
yeah. i cant realize any productivity boost if you take the vi interface from me :) but since eclim maps most of the eclipse stuff into vim i could realize the boost. eclipses editor doesnt feel snappy to me. the other threads doing the linting and stuff are a bit annoying, i like how eclim only does linting when i hit :w (which i do after almost every editing step by reflex :) the most important thing is that you can cooperate with eclipse users while still using vim. > > (Java 'haters' would argue that Java is just such a bad/verbose language that > you need the IDE, and IDE's are useless for proper languages. There's *some* > grain of truth there, but on the whole I don't buy it :) ) when writing code i find vims natural completion good enough most of the time. what i am missing is a working "jump to definition" for ambiguous method names, when reading code. having instant linting is pretty helpful. and using eclim certeinly improved my python productivity too. > Arnout -- torben Hohn _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
