Maarten de Boer wrote:
>>Really?  I've got an A7V266E and haven't noticed anything hot.. and 
>>anyway, I've never heard of a motherboard making a system hot in the 
>>first place.
> 
> I have no prove of this, it is just something I heard. But I do have
> to say mainboard temp gets high, but I am not sure if this is the
> processors fault.

Where are you reading your temperatures?  You sure that it's the 
motherboard and not the CPU?  Do you know where on the motherboard this 
reading is coming from (the chipset, or just a general ambient case 
thermometer)?

What type of climate do you live in? (Is the room temperature hot?)

> Yes, this is a particular noisy fan, with a very annoying high frequency
> component. Are you suggesting that I can turn it of safely if I am not
> doing overclocking? Currently, I am actually doing underclocking 
> (running an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ at 1100) 

Yep, that's what I'm suggesting.  Try running your computer and touching 
the heatsink or the chip (or whatever you can reach).  Does it burn your 
fingertip?  If the heatsink isn't hotter than the temperature of the 
air, then the fan won't do anything anyway.  If it doesn't burn your 
finger, then it's probably not hot enough to cause the chip to 
malfunction.  Mine is close to COLD, so I don't think the fan is 
necessary at all.

The CPU speed shouldn't affect this chipset's heat, unless your 
underclocking means that the bus is running at a slower speed, etc.  Did 
you underclock your FSB from 133 to 100?  That would probably make it 
even safer to remove the heatsink.  I think that Asus is the only 
company to put a fan on that chipset anyway, for any FSB speed.

BUT, I just tried disconnecting mine, and it made absolutely no 
difference in sound!  If I put the fan in my ear I could hear it by 
straining, but the CPU fan totally outclasses it otherwise.  It was also 
a pain in the butt to remove.  The fan is connected to the motherboard 
with two little pins that go through holes in the board and have 
arrow-head clasps on the other side that you have to squeeze in order to 
remove the pins... but it seems like the only way to get to the 
arrow-heads (in order to squeeze them) is to unscrew the board from the 
case (at least for me).  Also, there is a bunch of greesy 
thermal-compound between the chip and the heatsink that you'd have to 
clean up after removing the fan...

>>So I think that your regrets about the Asus motherboard and AMD athlon 
>>are likely to have been misplaced.  In my experience, these choices have 
>>nothing to do with noise.  It has much more to do with the particular 
>>fans you get.
> 
> What fans do you use? Or isn't the noise a problem for you?

I use AMD's standard athlon fan.  I can hear it, but it definitely 
qualifies as quiet.  Especially when you compare it to my girlfriend's 
computer.

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