Oh yeah I forgot! And there's another question I _realy_ want to know the answer for:
Until we have such instrument plugin API, what is the right way to implement the the system (30 softsynths working together) with what we have I mean a bunch of software synths /dev/midi -> /dev/dsp Can I use these together right now? Is there a right way to control them all via a single sequencer and to get their output into one place? nikodimka --- nick wrote: > Hi > > IMO running each synth in its own thread with many synths going is > definitely _not_ the way forward. The host should definitely be the only > process, much how VST, DXi, pro tools et. al. work. > > No, there is no real "instrument" or "synth" plugin API. but since my > original post I have been brewing something up. its quite vst-like in > some ways, but ive been wanting to make it more elegant before > announcing it. It does, however, work, and is totally C++ based ATM. You > just inherit the "Instrument" class and voila. (ok, so it got renamed > along the way) > > Although in light of Tommi's post (mastajuuri) i have to reconsider > working on my API. My only problem with mastajuuri is its dependance on > QT (if im not mistaken), sorry. > > If people would like to my work-in-progress, i could definitely use some > feedback ;-) > > This discussion is open! > > -Nick > > On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 20:53, nikodimka wrote: > > > > Guys, > > > > This answer appeared just after I decided to ask the very same question. > > > > Is it true that there is no _common_ "instrument" or "synth" plugin API on linux? > > > > Is it true that there is no the same kind of media for out-of-process instruments? > > > > I see that there are some kinds of possible plugin APIs: > > -- MusE's LADSPA extensions > > -- mustajuuri plugin > > -- maybe there's some more (MAIA? OX?) > > -- I remember Juan Linietsky working on binding sequencer with softsynths > > But I dont remember to hear anything about the results > > > > So can anyone _please_ answer: > > > > What is the right way to use the multiple (e.g. thirty) > > softsynths together simultaneously with one host? > > I mean working completely inside my computer > > to have just one (or even none) midi keyboard as input. > > So all the synthesys, mixing, processing goes on inside. > > And to send one audio channel out to any sound card. > > > > > > thanks, > > nikodimka > > > > > > =======8<==== Tommi Ilmonen wrote: ===8<================= > > > > Hi. > > > > Sorry to come in very late. The Mustajuuri plugin interface includes all > > the bits you need. In fact I already have two synthesizer engines under > > the hood. > > > > With Mustajuuri you can write the synth as a plugin and the host is only > > responsible for delivering the control messages to it. > > > > Alternatively you could write a new voice type for the Mustajuuri synth, > > which can lead to smaller overhead ... or not, depending on what you are > > after. > > > > http://www.tml.hut.fi/~tilmonen/mustajuuri/ > > > > On 3 Jul 2002, nick wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > I've been scratching my head for a while now, planning out how im going > > > to write amSynthe (aka amSynth2) > > > > > > Ideally i don't want to be touching low-level stuff again, and it makes > > > sense to write it as a plugin for some host. Obviously in the Win/Mac > > > world theres VST/DXi/whatever - but that doesnt really concern me as I > > > dont use em ;) I just want to make my music on my OS of choice.. > > > > > > Now somebody please put me straight here - as far as I can see, there's > > > LADSPA and JACK. (and MuSE's own plugins?). Now, I'm under the > > > impression that these only deal with the audio data - only half what I > > > need for a synth. Or can LADSPA deal with MIDI? > > > > > > So how should I go about it? > > > Is it acceptable to (for example) read the midi events from the ALSA > > > sequencer in the audio callback? My gut instinct is no, no, no! > > > > > > Even if that's feasible with the alsa sequencer, it still has problems - > > > say the host wanted to "render" the `song' to an audio file - using the > > > sequencer surely it would have to be done in real time? > > > > > > I just want to get on, write amSynthe and then everyone can enjoy it, > > > but this hurdle is bigger than it seems. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > Tommi Ilmonen Researcher > > >=> http://www.hut.fi/u/tilmonen/ > > Linux/IRIX audio: Mustajuuri > > >=> http://www.tml.hut.fi/~tilmonen/mustajuuri/ > > 3D audio/animation: DIVA > > >=> http://www.tml.hut.fi/Research/DIVA/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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