On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 09:47:47AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2023, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:46:54AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2023, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 at 16:35, Kent Overstreet 
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Other poeple have been finding ways to contribute to the technical
> > > > > discussion; just calling things "ugly and broken" does not.
> > > > 
> > > > Kent, calm down please.  We call things "ugly and broken" all the
> > > > time.  That's just an opinion, you are free to argue it, and no need
> > > > to take it personally.
> > > 
> > > But maybe we shouldn't.  Maybe we should focus on saying what, exactly,
> > > is unpleasant to look at and way.  Or what exactly causes poor
> > > funcationality.
> > 
> > I said it's "ugly" and I doubted it's value. I didn't call it "broken".
> > And I've been supportive of the other parts. Yet everyone seems fine
> > with having this spiral out of control to the point where I'm being
> > called a dick.
> > 
> > You hade a privat discussion on the bcachefs mailing list and it seems
> > you expected to show up here with a complete interface that we just all
> > pick up and merge even though this is a multi-year longstanding
> > argument.
> 
> I thought I was still having that private discussion on the bcachefs
> mailing list.  I didn't realise that fsdevel had been added.

I only thought that the discussion had gotten to the point where we had
something concrete enough to start to circulate more widely.

I wonder if some introspection could go into why this has been a
multi-year longstanding argument.

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