On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Putney <jeffrey.put...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> No, in this case it means we're confident it will get rolled out.
>
> On Aug 18th confidence was high enough to declare a possible release
> that very day.  This confidence turned into 7 weeks of silence
> followed by another 2 week estimate.
>
> These confident declarations are why things like mniederle's
> btrfs_rescue are considered 'interim' and not worth building on.  Had
> this confidence of imminent release not been the prevalent message for
> the last year, others would have stepped in to fill the void.
>
>> I've given a number of hard dates recently and I'd prefer to show up
>> with the code instead.  I don't think it makes sense to put a partial
>> implementation out there, we'll just have a bunch of people reporting
>> problems that I know exist.
>>
>> -chris
>>
>
> This strategy of 'Lone Wolfing it' has delayed the release by a year.
> Either you are flying solo because you think that you can make more
> meaningful progress without the involvement of the btrfs community, or
> you are willing to forfeit the contributions of the community in order
> to not have to listen to any complaints.
>
> The other problem of this flying solo plan, is that you are making the
> assumption that the problems you know about are more significant than
> the problems you are unaware of and could be flushed out with more
> eyes on the code.  The longer you delay the release of the source, the
> longer it will be until confidence can be generated that major issues
> have been resolved.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_early,_release_often
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The problem with this is that people naturally look for a fsck tool
when something bad goes wrong. Something as important as a fsck
utility shouldn't be released (unofficially or officially) half baked.
It can irreparably destroy a filesystem which could've otherwise been
repaired with a fully functional fsck.

I think Chris is trying to prevent that from happening.

Perhaps Chris can set up a private developer repo and ask for help
from redhat, fujitsu, etc..?
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