Hi Duncan,
Thanks for your answer
On 01/08/17, Duncan wrote:
>
> If you're doing any snapshotting, you almost certainly want noatime, not
> the default relatime. Even without snapshotting and regardless of the
> filesystem, tho on btrfs it's a bigger factor due to COW, noatime is a
> recommended performance optimization.
>
> The biggest caveat with that is if you're running something that actually
> depends on atime. Few if any modern applications depend on atime, with
> mutt in some configurations being an older application that still does.
> But AFAIK it only does in some configurations...
The array has no snapshots and my mutt resides on a diff SSD btrfs so I can
safely try this option.
>
> Is there anything suspect in dmesg during the mount? What does smartctl
> say about the health of the devices? (smartctl -AH at least, the selftest
> data is unlikely to be useful unless you actually run the selftests.)
>
dmesg while mount says:
[19823.896790] BTRFS info (device sde): use lzo compression
[19823.896798] BTRFS info (device sde): disk space caching is enabled
[19823.896800] BTRFS info (device sde): has skinny extents
Smartctl tests are scheduled to run all disks once every day (for short test)
and every week for long tests.
smartctl output:
# smartctl -AH /dev/sdd
smartctl 6.5 2016-05-07 r4318 [x86_64-linux-4.11.12-1-ck] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always
- 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 143 143 054 Pre-fail Offline
- 67
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 124 124 024 Pre-fail Always
- 185 (Average 185)
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 651
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always
- 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always
- 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 110 110 020 Pre-fail Offline
- 36
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 4594
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always
- 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 353
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 094 094 000 Old_age Always
- 7671
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 094 094 000 Old_age Always
- 7671
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 162 162 000 Old_age Always
- 37 (Min/Max 17/62)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline
- 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always
- 0
# smartctl -AH /dev/sde
smartctl 6.5 2016-05-07 r4318 [x86_64-linux-4.11.12-1-ck] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always
- 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 142 142 054 Pre-fail Offline
- 69
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 123 123 024 Pre-fail Always
- 186 (Average 187)
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 709
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always
- 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always
- 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 113 113 020 Pre-fail Offline
- 35
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 4678
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always
- 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 353
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 093 093 000 Old_age Always
- 8407
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 093 093 000 Old_age Always
- 8407
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 166 166 000 Old_age Always
- 36 (Min/Max 17/64)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always
- 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline
- 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always
- 0
> 1) Attempting to mount filesystems with many devices is of course
> slower. But two devices shouldn't be a problem.
>
> 2) Sometimes a device might take awhile to "spin up" and initialize
> itself. Since you're still on spinning rust, are the devices perhaps
> spinning down to save power, and the delay you see is them spinning back
> up?
>
Good idea but even when I do it like below it's still 6 seconds:
# time umount /media/raid1 && time mount /media/raid1
real 0m0.501s
user 0m0.046s
sys 0m0.011s
real 0m5.540s
user 0m0.943s
sys 0m0.062s
> SSDs may have a similar, tho generally shorter and for different reasons,
> delay. SSDs often have a capacitor that charges up so they can finish a
> write and avoid corrupting themselves in the event of an unexpected power
> loss in the middle of a write. A lower end device might allow the device
> to appear ready while the capacitor is still charging to avoid long power-
> on response times, while higher end devices both tend to have higher
> capacity capacitors, and don't signify ready until they are sufficiently
> charged to avoid issues in "blink" situations where the power supply
> comes back on but isn't immediately steady and might go out again right
> away.
>
> If a device takes too long and times out you'll see resets and the like
> in dmesg, but that normally starts at ~30 seconds, not the 5 seconds you
> mention. Still, doesn't hurt to check.
Nothing on dmesg related as you can see.
>
> 3) If the space cache is damaged the mount may take longer, but btrfs
> will complain so you'll see it in dmesg.
>
That was my idea and that's why I asked in ML.
I'll give 'noatime' a go and see if it's changes anything.
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