Simon, and all others, 1nov99.
The 'end of all your problems' is very near: An old harddisk for WINxx.
(it works great here)
Big WINxx programs can reside ELSEWHERE: 'Setup wizards' give a choice:
drive\path\home-directory\......
With Linux coming up and WINxx being used less, you need only 500MB
for WINxx (My WIN98 is 280MB). I can install ANY SIZE program.
(let me put this at the top of my too long msg .... why do we always
concentrate on problems instead of picking solutions!)
Simon,
I have read the thread until this one.
You got good advice.
The step-by-step application of it is:
Use Fdisk-windows to partition ONLY 1 windows-partition. Install WINxx on it.
Reason: If I want to install a second primary partition, Fdisk-windows
will say:
"Primary partition already exists." It will not let me.
Do NOT use the DiskManager.
The remainder of the harddisk is unused at this point.
Use Fdisk-linux to partition the remainder of your harddisk.
You can have total 4 primary partitions (Window-partition + 3).
If 4 partitions is not enough, you have to make an Extended partition.
(3 primary partitions + 1 Extended partition)
Inside the extended partition you can make as many logical drives as you need.
Now the controversial points:
If you need more partitions for WINxx, pick any (logical partitions OK.
There is no problem to mix WINxx and Linux, except for the WINxx
partition that holds the \windows\ folder).
Any partition you can access and format from WINxx, is suitable.
If WINxx has no access above 8GB, stay below it.
aa. No EXTENDED partition right after the WINxx partition.
Should you select the (Fdisk-windows) scheme (to keep those extra partitions
below the 8GB border, in an extended partition) you end up with the Extended
partition right after WINxx (Winxx patition with the /Windows folder on it):
P(rimary)partition 1 : WINxx
EXTENDED partition (inside: all logical partitions)
Ppartition 2
Ppartition 3
......... and you could be in for trouble in the Extended partition: Winxx
over-writing the Extended-partition-table (incl all logical drives).
You can avoid the trouble (and read-up on the problem): Cfdisk-linux comes
with
instructions: Clean a 512-byte sector for DOS use.
(I had more important things to do so I solved my problem by putting WINxx on
it's own harddisk.)
I think the trouble is limited to an EXTENDED partition immediately after the
main WINxx partition. This brings me to bb.
bb. Extended partition towards the end of the drive.
I would use fdisk-linux as it lets you do this.
P(rimary)partition 1 : WINxx
Ppartition 2
Ppartition 3
EXTENDED partition
I have no proof that bb. solves all the problems. Read the cfdisk-linux
instructions for details of problem and solution.
(backup logical drives and disk-partition-table. If you have no trouble
for a month, you probably dont have a problem)
I used an old MSDOS pgm to backup the partition-table.
The problem comes up like a thief in the night. It can go unnoticed till
a program needs a logical drive.
When I immediately took action, a 'restore partition-table' would solve
the problem with no loss of data.
I lost my E: drive (first logical drive) data twice due to delayed action.
My F: thru H: drives disappeared with it (logical drives).
I always got F: - H: back with 'restore partition-table'.
NOTE: THIS COULD BE A PROBLEM LIMITED TO VERY FEW SYSTEMS. Dont make it a
general rule. Install your systems 'as if the problem does not exists'.
Just take appropriate action should you have the problem.
The general rule is: Use Fdisk-windows for Windows, use fdisk-linux for Linux.
I suggest to trust Fdisk-windows for ONE partition only.
The culprit is in the WINxx partition. The trap is set-up by Fdisk-windows.
When you use fdisk-windows you end up with an Extended partition right after
the WINxx partition because FDisk-dos does not allow a second primary
partition, leaving an Extended partition as only choice.
I dont think I introduced the problem by using fdisk-linux for the extended
partition, but it IS possible.
The 'end of all your problems' is very near: An old harddisk for WINxx.
...................
(let me put this at the top of my too long msg .... why do we always
concentrate on problems instead of picking solutions!)
At 01:45 PM 9/30/99 -0400, Richardson, Tony wrote:
>It sounds as if Linux does not support partitions
>created by recent versions of DiskManager. (According
>to ide.txt in the kernel documentation version 6.X of
>DiskManager is supported. I think version 6.X got around
>the 512 MB barrier, I suspect the newer version gets around
>the 8GB barrier.)
>
>I'd guess you have two options: (1) Use DM and let Win98
>have the whole drive and Linux none of it, or (2) remove
>DM and let Linux and Win98 share the first 8GB leaving
>the remainder of the drive for Linux alone.
>
>Tony
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Gendreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 12:27 PM
>> To: Herman Aa
>> Cc: Linux Configuration Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: No space left .. new HD ??
>>
>>
>> What I forgot to mention is ..
>> LINUX is already running on my machine. It is on my drive /dev/hda5
>> Swap is /dev/hda6
>>
>> Lets put my question in other words ...............
>> How do I simply partition/format my new 13 Gigs HD so Linux
>> AND Windows can
>> read/write to it, whatever I choose to boot as OS on a day to
>> day basis
>> ????????????
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>> Herman Aa wrote:
>>
>> > Simon, 30sep99
>> >
>> > When you installed the special driver you created new rules for your
>> > harddisk environment. Without knowing the special driver
>> there is not
>> > much of a discussion.
>> > You have no problem installing Linux?
>>
>> Nop
>>
>> > The alternate way is NOT to install the special driver.
>> > (The instructions with the DiskManager/ special driver are
>> for the Windows
>> > environment. It does not necessarily apply to Linux.)
>> > Leave the disk blank. Do not partition it.
>> > Or partition only the part you need for Windows. Do not
>> create an EXTENDED
>> > partition at this point.
>> > Leave the remainder of the disk un-partitioned.
>> >
>> > When you install Linux from CDROM you will get the harddisk
>> partitioner of
>> > Linux.
>> > Same name 'fdisk' but different from Windows-fdisk.
>> > See what fdisk-linux can do for you. The Windows-rules are
>> replaced by
>> > Linux rules.
>> > Linux has less restrictions.
>> > Linux might well partition drives over 8GB. I had no
>> problems with my 8.6GB
>> > SeaGate. (Windows had no problems with it either.)
>> >
---Herman Aa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From a mountaintop on Cebu island, Philippines.
