On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 11:15:29AM +0100, Marco Elver wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 at 10:43, Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]> wrote:
> [..]
> > > Correct. We're trading false negatives over false positives at this
> > > point, just to get things to compile cleanly.
> >
> > Right, and this all 'works' right up to the point someone sticks a
> > must_not_hold somewhere.
> >
> > > > > Better support for Linux's scoped guard design could be added in
> > > > > future if deemed critical.
> > > >
> > > > I would think so, per the above I don't think this is 'right'.
> > >
> > > It's not sound, but we'll avoid false positives for the time being.
> > > Maybe we can wrangle the jigsaw of macros to let it correctly acquire
> > > and then release (via a 2nd cleanup function), it might be as simple
> > > as marking the 'constructor' with the right __acquires(..), and then
> > > have a 2nd __attribute__((cleanup)) variable that just does a no-op
> > > release via __release(..) so we get the already supported pattern
> > > above.
> >
> > Right, like I mentioned in my previous email; it would be lovely if at
> > the very least __always_inline would get a *very* early pass such that
> > the above could be resolved without inter-procedural bits. I really
> > don't consider an __always_inline as another procedure.
> >
> > Because as I already noted yesterday, cleanup is now all
> > __always_inline, and as such *should* all end up in the one function.
> >
> > But yes, if we can get a magical mash-up of __cleanup and __release (let
> > it be knows as __release_on_cleanup ?) that might also work I suppose.
> > But I vastly prefer __always_inline actually 'working' ;-)
> 
> The truth is that __always_inline working in this way is currently
> infeasible. Clang and LLVM's architecture simply disallow this today:
> the semantic analysis that -Wthread-safety does happens over the AST,
> whereas always_inline is processed by early passes in the middle-end
> already within LLVM's pipeline, well after semantic analysis. There's
> a complexity budget limit for semantic analysis (type checking,
> warnings, assorted other errors), and path-sensitive &
> intra-procedural analysis over the plain AST is outside that budget.
> Which is why tools like clang-analyzer exist (symbolic execution),
> where it's possible to afford that complexity since that's not
> something that runs for a normal compile.
> 
> I think I've pushed the current version of Clang's -Wthread-safety
> already far beyond what folks were thinking is possible (a variant of
> alias analysis), but even my healthy disregard for the impossible
> tells me that making path-sensitive intra-procedural analysis even if
> just for __always_inline functions is quite possibly a fool's errand.

Well, I had to propose it. Gotta push the envelope :-)

> So either we get it to work with what we have, or give up.

So I think as is, we can start. But I really do want the cleanup thing
sorted, even if just with that __release_on_cleanup mashup or so.

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