On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 7:02 PM Bird, Tim <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Fontana <[email protected]>
> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 7:10 PM Tim Bird <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later OR BSD-3-Clause
> > >  /* FCrypt encryption algorithm
> > >   *
> > >   * Copyright (C) 2006 Red Hat, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
> > >   * Written by David Howells ([email protected])
> > >   *
> > > - * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> > > - * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
> > > - * as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version
> > > - * 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
> > > - *
> > >   * Based on code:
> > >   *
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> > >   * (Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden).
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> >
> > This is not `GPL-2.0-or-later OR BSD-3-Clause`. It appears to be
> > something like "GPLv2-or-later code based partly on some BSD-3-Clause
> > code" which would be `GPL-2.0-or-later AND BSD-3-Clause` (with some
> > significant loss of information in the conversion to SPDX notation,
> > but I've complained about that before in other forums).
>
> Well, this particular combination is indeed problematic.  The 'Based on' 
> notice
> does indeed not necessarily mean that either license could be used, if this 
> code
> were extracted from the kernel.
> It would take some deep research to determine what was added that was NOT
> BSD-3-Clause before and after the code entered the kernel source tree.  After 
> the
> code enters the kernel source tree, the usual assumption is that code 
> contributions
> are under GPL-2.0-only unless the specific file license says otherwise. 
> However, with both licenses mentioned
> in the header, I suspect a large number of contributors interpreted the 
> situation
> as an OR.

That would surprise me, but, in the words of the Big Lebowski, perhaps
you're right.

> The end result of this is that normally most of the contributions are assumed
> to be GPL-2.0-only, and it would not be appropriate to release the whole file 
> under BSD-3-Clause.
>
> I don't think it can be 'GPL-2.0-or-later AND BSD-3-Clause', because the 3rd 
> clause
> in BSD-3-Clause is incompatible with GPL-2.0 (although some people disagree 
> with that,
> that's how I read it).

That's a legitimate reading but I would contend it's out of step with
settled expectations going back multiple decades about the ability to
combine BSD-3-Clause (and licenses with similar clauses to clause 3).
Even if you're right, though, that doesn't mean "AND" is incorrect, it
would just mean that there's a license incompatibility for people who
care about that sort of thing.

> There are likely a number of cases in the kernel where developers took 
> BSD-3-Clause code
> and re-licensed it as GPL-2.0 (or GPL-2.0-or-later), which is not strictly 
> kosher based solely
> on the 3rd condition issue.  However, I think the 3rd condition (the 
> no-endorsement clause)
> is a goofy one, that has never been acted on in any legal capacity, and for 
> which the risk of
> a bad outcome is very low, if it were completely ignored.  I could expand my 
> thinking on this,
> but this post is already too long. Overall, I'm inclined to just mark this 
> one as 'GPL-2.0 -or-later'
> (not using an OR at all), but leave the 'based on' text, and call it good. I 
> might add some text
> saying to look at the original code as submitted to the kernel if someone 
> wants a version of
> the code under the BSD license.

> By the way, Richard, I appreciate the review of the patches and your thoughts.

Thank you!

Richard


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