Linux-Development-Apps Digest #621, Volume #6 Thu, 18 May 00 07:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Stack size in gdb/ddd? (MikeC)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Michael Hofmann)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Richard Gill")
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Koos Pol)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (eyez)
anyone using jpython and QT ("Ken_in_Manila")
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (eyez)
xplot problems (=?iso-8859-1?Q?C=E9sar?= Espinosa)
Re: a RPC howto for the hopeless? (John Forkosh)
Why no defrag? ("Peet Grobler")
Re: Why no defrag? (Josef Moellers)
Re: Why no defrag? (Josef Moellers)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Why no defrag? (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Why no defrag? (David Steuber)
serial port RTS control ? ("Fred")
remote vs local vs NFS kernel compile (long) (Tim Moore)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MikeC)
Subject: Stack size in gdb/ddd?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 05:15:21 GMT
Gdb/ddd does not seem to show stack size in backtrace.
Do you really have to compute the size of each frame
manually looking at the function name, then its parameters
and local variables????
Is there any way to find out the maximum stack size for
all the test cases executed? One way would be do break
at each function and examine the stack - but this not
practical for large number of test cases and functions.
Is there any way to automate such a operation in gdb/ddd?
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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 07:29:50 +0200
Foogar wrote:
>
> Something like an app that would randomly crash?
No need to develop it. Some of us got it running every day: Netscape.
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From: "Richard Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:10:25 +0200
No, too difficult !!
He and the university team would have to work 3 years at least to randomly
crash like Windows !
They should rewrite completly the kernel, what a stuff !!!!
:-)))
Foogar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le message :
8fub69$71d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Something like an app that would randomly crash? Windows could be
replaced
> by that!
>
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> "Mongoose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> | I was thinking, maybe not just servers and stuff, but an application
> | that windows users have but linux doesn't. Something that would give
> | windows users more of an incentive to move to linux, or help them
> | migrate to linux.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 18 May 2000 01:35:28 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So what is the problem with doing this in the KDE desktop?
>
>KDE isn't free.
For sufficiently bizarre definitions of free.
>And GNOME is nowhere near fully-developed.
There is gnorpm which seems roughly the same as kpackage, but the KDE
filemanager starts kpackage in install mode when you click on
a *.rpm file. Gnorpm has an install mode but doesn't seem to
take filenames on the command line.
>Perhaps. I've never actively administered a RedHat system. Are all
>of RH's configuration tools proprietary or non-free?
I've seen the claim that they are all GPL'd. Didn't matter that
much to me - the iso is available for download so they are at
least free in the usual sense.
>If they were open source and portable between distros, I'd
>think they'd show up in Debian. (After all, Bonobo and friends have.)
I haven't touched Debian since my first experience with dselect in
1996 or so. I'm sure it has improved since then but I couldn't
deal with their attitude about how much better dpkg/dselect was
(when it didn't even work on a lot of systems) compared to rpm.
I'd be very surprised if that attitude every goes away to a
point where they would share rpm tools with RedHat.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 18 May 2000 06:20:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 17 May 2000 14:39:01 GMT, martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| How about an easy-to-use text editor ? (console, not GUI please :) ?
| One without a million complex commands, but with ability to select
| text with shift+arrow keys, like most dos/windows/os2-based editors
| do, F2 to save a file instead of Ctrl-x + Ctrl-s or something and
| those other features that are standard on other operating systems.
|
| Basically, a simple editor that doesn't need a 300-page tutorial.
| I can't find any of those in linux. Not for console anyway.
|
|
| --
| Martin
Oh yes you can! Try FTE. It does exactly all what you requested :-)
http://fte.sourceforge.net/
And it runs on Unix, Windows, OS/2,...
Koos Pol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eyez)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:53:16 GMT
quoting <Leslie Mikesell>:
>I haven't touched Debian since my first experience with dselect in
>1996 or so. I'm sure it has improved since then but I couldn't
>deal with their attitude about how much better dpkg/dselect was
>(when it didn't even work on a lot of systems) compared to rpm.
>I'd be very surprised if that attitude every goes away to a
>point where they would share rpm tools with RedHat.
>From my experience with debian, dpkg/dselect/apt *IS* better than rpm.
The biggest problem with rpm's on debian is that the dependency databases
for rpm as compared to the dpkg/apt ones are completely incompatible.
however, debian's distributions do currently contain the 'rpm' program as
well as 'alien', so you can convert an rpm to a .deb... debian has strived
to make the dpkg system work completely, in such a way that debian's
children (stormlinux, corel, libranet, et cetera) are all fully compatible
with debian. Any of these systems could be updated to debian with little
effort through the apt-system, and That would work reversely. Also, apt
could check each of the mirror sites for each of these distributions, and
update packages from all of them just as effortlessly. (Don't argue with me, I
had a concurrent debian-Woody/StormLinux-Rain system for a while). That's a
level of consistency that RedHat with it's SuSE/Mandrake/Caldera spawns can't
compete.
I've had to install some rpm packages on my debian system before, and it's
not hard to do, but it annoys me just the same that nobody ELSE supports
any package format but rpm.
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rando Christensen
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From: "Ken_in_Manila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: anyone using jpython and QT
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:14:19 +0800
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eyez)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:58:42 GMT
quoting <Koos Pol>:
>On Wed, 17 May 2000 14:39:01 GMT, martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|
>| How about an easy-to-use text editor ? (console, not GUI please :) ?
>| One without a million complex commands, but with ability to select
>| text with shift+arrow keys, like most dos/windows/os2-based editors
>| do, F2 to save a file instead of Ctrl-x + Ctrl-s or something and
>| those other features that are standard on other operating systems.
>|
>| Basically, a simple editor that doesn't need a 300-page tutorial.
>| I can't find any of those in linux. Not for console anyway.
>|
>|
>| --
>| Martin
>
>
>Oh yes you can! Try FTE. It does exactly all what you requested :-)
>http://fte.sourceforge.net/
Fte is truly a Wonderful editor, and by far my favorite for programming use
in linux. (Hey, I never thought i'd say it, but color-coding things CAN
come in handy! ;)
Joking aside, it's a wonderful tool for programming, and plain editing. i
have my VISUAL environment variable set to it, and do much of my editing
with it, Though my quick-n-dirty(TM) edits are done in Vim.
>
>And it runs on Unix, Windows, OS/2,...
>
>Koos Pol
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>S.C. Pol - Systems Administrator - Compuware Europe B.V. - Amsterdam
>T:+31 20 3116122 F:+31 20 3116200 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Check my email address when you hit "Reply".
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=E9sar?= Espinosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xplot problems
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:29:13 +0200
Hi, I am using xplot-0.90 and I cannot print color graphics. When I
execute the program, I get this message: XAllocColorCells failed.
Does anybody know how to solve it?
Cheers,
César Espinosa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Subject: Re: a RPC howto for the hopeless?
Date: 18 May 2000 07:37:02 GMT
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Travis Hein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >I am fairly new at linux programming, and would like to learn more about
: >how to use the Remote Procedure Call facilities in sunrpc.o module.
: Your best bet is to do "man -k RPC" and study the documentation listed, like
: rpcgen(1) and rpc(3).
: Nowadays, it may be better to look into a higher-level approach like CORBA
: rather than doing RPC directly though.
Ashok Samal wrote an introduction to rpc available
from my homepage www.forkosh.com (Samal's original
is no longer online).
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Why no defrag?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:43:52 +0200
Hello.
I've seen the question posted to this group many times now, is there a
defrag for linux? The conclusion is there is not. I'm sitting at my desk,
thinking, why not?
Is there any specific reason for defrag not being written? I mean, can
anybody tell me something that would stop me from writing one?
Cheers,
Peet
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From: Josef Moellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Why no defrag?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:19:11 +0200
Peet Grobler wrote:
> =
> Hello.
> =
> I've seen the question posted to this group many times now, is there a
> defrag for linux? The conclusion is there is not. I'm sitting at my des=
k,
> thinking, why not?
> =
> Is there any specific reason for defrag not being written? I mean, can
> anybody tell me something that would stop me from writing one?
Simply because there is no need for a defrag. The filesystems used under
Linux (and most/all recent versions of Un*x) have automatic
defragmentation built-in in that they prevent defragmentation, as long
as the filesystem is not 100% full.
E.g. ext2 (and ufs) partition a filesystem into cylinder groups and the
filesystem code tries to allocate blocks of a file in the same cylinder
group.
-- =
Josef M=F6llers
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
SHV Server DS 1
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From: Josef Moellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Why no defrag?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:59:53 +0200
Josef Moellers wrote:
> Linux (and most/all recent versions of Un*x) have automatic
> defragmentation built-in in that they prevent defragmentation, as long
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ouch, this should have been "fragmentation", obviously.
-- =
Josef M=F6llers
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
SHV Server DS 1
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:59:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
' Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
'
' > >KDE isn't free.
'
' > uh what? I don't remember paying for KDE...
'
' If I remember the analogy correctly, it's free as in "free beer," but
' not free as in "free speech." Qt is the bottleneck, I believe.
Unless you plan on porting KDE to Windows, KDE is totaly free. It is
only the Windows version of Qt that requires you to buy a license.
And even then, you only need it if your program isn't GPL.
There is also nothing preventing someone from porting Qt to Windows as
a seperate version from Qt Professional Edition.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Why no defrag?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:25:10 GMT
On Thu, 18 May 2000 09:43:52 +0200, Peet Grobler wrote:
> I've seen the question posted to this group many times now, is there
> a defrag for linux? The conclusion is there is not. I'm sitting at my
> desk, thinking, why not?
Because it's not needed. Unlike FAT*, ext2 is an intelligent file
system that takes care of this problem without user intervention.
> Is there any specific reason for defrag not being written? I mean,
> can anybody tell me something that would stop me from writing one?
For the same reason that nobody needs to write a program that makes
Windows crash and reboot - it already happens automatically. ;-)
Thomas
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Why no defrag?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:00:02 GMT
"Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' Is there any specific reason for defrag not being written? I mean, can
' anybody tell me something that would stop me from writing one?
The specific reason is that the ext2 file system automatically keeps
files contiguous so long as disk space allows it. Presumably this
happens when close() is called after writing to the file.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: serial port RTS control ?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:27:45 +0200
Reply-To: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi all,
I need to force high RTS line of a serial port before sending data and
return it into normal state after transmission.
I don't want a real flow control with RTS / CTS handshaking though, but just
RTS control !
Okay, I'm going to say more :
I've a multipoint half-duplex network (something like RS-485).
So, as there is only two wires for communication, they are used as RxD by
default.
But when RTS is set, this wires are used for TxD...
Under SCO ODT, I set c_cflag to (ORTSFL|RTSFLOW)&~CTSFLOW) with ioctl and
everything works fine
but this masks are not defined in <bits/termios.h> under my RedHat 6.2 :-(
Is it possible to just redefine this mask with SCO values ?
Is there an other way to make RTS working like I need ?
Thanks in advance for all suggestions
Fred
(France)
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networki
Subject: remote vs local vs NFS kernel compile (long)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 03:39:27 -0700
Someone posted a question about compiling a kernel by exporting a slow
machine's kernel build tree to a faster machine. For me the NFS export
wasn't very efficient so I began using a remote build/copy back process as
follows. Both systems are RH 6.2 base with 2.2.16 kernels.
Architecture
============
The slow machine is a DELL 486/DX-100, ISA bus with 2-NE2000 10bT NICs,
2-DTC fast parallel ports, a 2GB IDE drive and 40MB memory used as a
firewall, IP masquerade gateway and print server. Performance is pretty
well summed up by its hdparm(8) output:
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 7.34 seconds =17.44 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 27.40 seconds = 2.34 MB/sec
The fast machine is a slightly more modern ASUS P3B, 37MHz PCI bus, 525MHz
Celeron, 256MB/CL2/8ns SDRAM memory and a NE2000 10bT connected by a switch
to the slow machine. Compared with the DELL:
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.28 seconds =100.00 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.38 seconds = 18.93 MB/sec
Key Point: The fast machine is significantly faster than the slow machine.
6x memory, 8x disk, 10x CPU in this case. Most likely the point of
diminishing return is about an overall 2x difference.
Compilation Method
==================
1. The remote kernel source tree is created on the fast machine's local
disk. Ideally the location is not the local machine's /usr/src. In my
case a partition /big/dell/usr/src is mounted on a separate disk far from
the local system's /usr/src. Think "preemptive risk management".
2. The remote kernel is configured in the usual way: # cd
/big/dell/usr/src/linux; make menuconfig. Remember to select kernel
options for the remote machine. It's easy to context slip and think in
terms of what's in your visual field (eg- the local machine) and get
confused between the two.
3. The 'make dep; make clean; make bzImage; make modules' steps are also
executed in the usual way.
4. The 'make modules_install' step is different. Use the INSTALL_MOD_PATH
flag to pass the remote machine's root to make:
# make modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/net/dell
The modules end up on the DELL's /lib/modules rather than locally. Use
automount, amd or an NFS export from the remote machine. With a 10Mb
network they are all equally slow. Keep in mind any security issues in
your particular environment given that root needs to do the writing.
5. To move the new kernel, I again use automount to copy bzImage (as
vmlinuz) and System.map to /net/dell/boot
6. Rerun lilo on the remote system.
7. Optionally tar the source tree up and move it to the remote system.
This keeps the kernel and source in sync in case you do need a local slow
machine compile. rsync, a selective tar or 'find -newer' would be faster
but more complex to set up. In general go for the least complex solution.
Results
=======
Native compile on the slow machine, local disk: ~37m
Remote compile on the fast machine via NFS: ~11m30s
Native compile on the fast machine, local disk: ~04m45s
Copy the source tree back via NFS (optional): ~03m45s
Examples
========
1. Build script running on the fast machine on local disk. kernel, modules
moved to slow machine via NFS.
[tim@asus linux]# /usr/src/build dell
building 2.2.16pre3 for dell...
dep =======
13.03user 1.62system 0:14.91elapsed 98%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (63572major+21178minor)pagefaults 0swaps
clean =======
0.24user 0.21system 0:00.44elapsed 101%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (5046major+1046minor)pagefaults 0swaps
bzImage =======
Root device is (3, 5)
Boot sector 512 bytes.
Setup is 3420 bytes.
System is 502 kB
217.52user 12.72system 4:00.27elapsed 95%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (295439major+328841minor)pagefaults 0swaps
modules =======
26.85user 1.78system 0:30.24elapsed 94%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (56054major+47341minor)pagefaults 0swaps
modules_install =======
Installing modules under /net/dell/lib/modules/2.2.16pre3/block
Installing modules under /net/dell/lib/modules/2.2.16pre3/net
Installing modules under /net/dell/lib/modules/2.2.16pre3/ipv4
Installing modules under /net/dell/lib/modules/2.2.16pre3/fs
0.20user 0.09system 0:00.76elapsed 37%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (3653major+1292minor)pagefaults 0swaps
./arch/i386/boot/bzImage -> /net/dell/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16pre3
./System.map -> /net/dell/boot/System.map-2.2.16pre3
/net/dell/boot /big/dell/linux
vmlinuz -> vmlinuz.old
System.map -> System.map.old
fix up any soft links in /boot and rerun lilo on dell
started: Wed May 17 23:34:19 PDT 2000
finished: Wed May 17 23:39:07 PDT 2000
2. copy back the source tree.
[tim@asus dell]# /usr/bin/time tar cpBbf 32 - -X exclude.lis ./linux-2.2.16
|\
? (cd /dell/usr/src; tar xpBbf 32 -)
0.20user 1.26system 3:42.78elapsed 0%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (21099major+34minor)pagefaults 0swaps
3. Same build script running on the fast machine with slow machine NFS
export. kernel, modules moved to slow machine via NFS.
[tim@asus linux]# /usr/src/build dell
building 2.2.16pre3 for dell...
dep =======
14.12user 6.82system 4:03.33elapsed 8%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (63588major+21535minor)pagefaults 0swaps
clean =======
0.36user 0.51system 0:18.36elapsed 4%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (5051major+1060minor)pagefaults 0swaps
bzImage =======
Root device is (3, 5)
Boot sector 512 bytes.
Setup is 3420 bytes.
System is 502 kB
219.22user 33.49system 5:19.55elapsed 79%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (293529major+329136minor)pagefaults 0swaps
modules =======
27.30user 5.25system 0:42.79elapsed 76%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (55836major+47423minor)pagefaults 0swaps
modules_install =======
Installing modules under /net/dell/lib/modules/2.2.16pre3/block
Installing modules under /net/dell/lib/modules/2.2.16pre3/net
Installing modules under /net/dell/lib/modules/2.2.16pre3/ipv4
Installing modules under /net/dell/lib/modules/2.2.16pre3/fs
0.27user 0.17system 0:01.68elapsed 26%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (3630major+1284minor)pagefaults 0swaps
./arch/i386/boot/bzImage -> /net/dell/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16pre3
./System.map -> /net/dell/boot/System.map-2.2.16pre3
/net/dell/boot /dell/usr/src/linux
vmlinuz -> vmlinuz.old
System.map -> System.map.old
fix up any soft links in /boot and rerun lilo on dell
started: Thu May 18 02:35:47 PDT 2000
finished: Thu May 18 02:46:17 PDT 2000
4. General kernel compile speed hint. Redirect stdout to /dev/null for
make dep, clean, bzImage and modules (eg- 'make bzImage > /dev/null').
Warnings and fatal errors will still be visible.
--
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You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.development.apps) via:
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Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
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