Linux-Development-Sys Digest #384, Volume #6 Sun, 7 Feb 99 22:14:30 EST
Contents:
Printer problem with 2.2.1 kernel (P Wong)
Boot Problem on 8.4 gig drive (x86) ("Usman S. Ansari")
Re: Is INETD part of Apache or base Linux Networking? (Alexander Viro)
Is INETD part of Apache or base Linux Networking? ("David Sisk")
Re: Is INETD part of Apache or base Linux Networking? (Byron A Jeff)
Re: Is INETD part of Apache or base Linux Networking? (Chris Saia)
Re: problems with netscape on a glibc system... (Peter Samuelson)
Re: why does `stat' make the disk spin? (Peter Samuelson)
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From: P Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printer problem with 2.2.1 kernel
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 05:54:15 -0800
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I just compiled the 2.2.1 kernel and I can't use the printer. I'm new to
this kernel thing so I problably forgot to mark something necessary for
using the printer. It worked on the 2.0.34 kernel.The config file is
attached
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#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#
#
# Code maturity level options
#
# CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set
#
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
CONFIG_M586TSC=y
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
# CONFIG_MTRR is not set
CONFIG_SMP=y
#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_QUIRKS=y
CONFIG_PCI_OLD_PROC=y
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
# CONFIG_VISWS is not set
CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y
CONFIG_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER=y
# CONFIG_APM is not set
#
# Plug and Play support
#
CONFIG_PNP=y
CONFIG_PNP_PARPORT=m
#
# Block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640_ENHANCED is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set
#
# Additional Block Devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_PARIDE=m
#
# Parallel IDE high-level drivers
#
CONFIG_PARIDE_PD=m
CONFIG_PARIDE_PCD=m
CONFIG_PARIDE_PF=m
CONFIG_PARIDE_PT=m
CONFIG_PARIDE_PG=m
#
# Parallel IDE protocol modules
#
# CONFIG_PARIDE_ATEN is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_BPCK is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_COMM is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_DSTR is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_FIT2 is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_FIT3 is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_EPAT is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_EPIA is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_FRIQ is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_FRPW is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_KBIC is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_KTTI is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_ON20 is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_ON26 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set
#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_PACKET=m
CONFIG_NETLINK=y
# CONFIG_RTNETLINK is not set
CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
# CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ALIAS is not set
# CONFIG_FILTER is not set
CONFIG_UNIX=m
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
CONFIG_NET_IPIP=m
CONFIG_NET_IPGRE=m
# CONFIG_IP_ALIAS is not set
# CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES is not set
#
# (it is safe to leave these untouched)
#
# CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set
CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y
#
#
#
CONFIG_IPX=m
CONFIG_IPX_INTERN=y
CONFIG_ATALK=m
#
# SCSI support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=m
#
# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=m
# CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR is not set
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m
#
# Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
#
CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set
#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_G_NCR5380_PORT is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_G_NCR5380_MEM is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PPA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IMM is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX=m
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=4
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=32
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYNC=20
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PROFILE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_IOMAPPED is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DC390T is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set
#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set
CONFIG_DUMMY=m
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set
# CONFIG_LANCE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set
CONFIG_NET_EISA=y
# CONFIG_PCNET32 is not set
# CONFIG_APRICOT is not set
# CONFIG_CS89x0 is not set
# CONFIG_DE4X5 is not set
# CONFIG_DEC_ELCP is not set
# CONFIG_DGRS is not set
CONFIG_EEXPRESS_PRO100=y
# CONFIG_NE2K_PCI is not set
# CONFIG_TLAN is not set
# CONFIG_VIA_RHINE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_DLCI is not set
# CONFIG_LTPC is not set
# CONFIG_COPS is not set
CONFIG_IPDDP=m
CONFIG_IPDDP_ENCAP=y
CONFIG_IPDDP_DECAP=y
CONFIG_PLIP=m
CONFIG_PPP=m
#
# CCP compressors for PPP are only built as modules.
#
CONFIG_SLIP=m
# CONFIG_SLIP_COMPRESSED is not set
# CONFIG_SLIP_SMART is not set
# CONFIG_SLIP_MODE_SLIP6 is not set
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_HOSTESS_SV11 is not set
# CONFIG_COSA is not set
# CONFIG_RCPCI is not set
#
# Amateur Radio support
#
# CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set
#
# ISDN subsystem
#
# CONFIG_ISDN is not set
#
# CD-ROM drivers (not for SCSI or IDE/ATAPI drives)
#
# CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set
#
# Character devices
#
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_SERIAL=m
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256
CONFIG_PRINTER=m
CONFIG_PRINTER_READBACK=y
CONFIG_MOUSE=y
#
# Mice
#
# CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE is not set
CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y
CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE=y
# CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
# CONFIG_NVRAM is not set
# CONFIG_RTC is not set
#
# Video For Linux
#
CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m
# CONFIG_RADIO_RTRACK is not set
# CONFIG_RADIO_RTRACK2 is not set
# CONFIG_RADIO_AZTECH is not set
# CONFIG_RADIO_MIROPCM20 is not set
# CONFIG_RADIO_GEMTEK is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_BWQCAM is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_CQCAM is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_PMS is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5249 is not set
# CONFIG_RADIO_SF16FMI is not set
# CONFIG_RADIO_ZOLTRIX is not set
#
# Joystick support
#
CONFIG_JOYSTICK=m
# CONFIG_JOY_ANALOG is not set
# CONFIG_JOY_ASSASIN is not set
# CONFIG_JOY_GRAVIS is not set
# CONFIG_JOY_LOGITECH is not set
CONFIG_JOY_SIDEWINDER=m
# CONFIG_JOY_THRUSTMASTER is not set
# CONFIG_JOY_LIGHTNING is not set
# CONFIG_JOY_CONSOLE is not set
# CONFIG_JOY_DB9 is not set
# CONFIG_JOY_TURBOGRAFX is not set
#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NORMAL_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_FT_FULL_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NO_TRACE is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NO_TRACE_AT_ALL is not set
# CONFIG_FT_STD_FDC is not set
# CONFIG_FT_MACH2 is not set
# CONFIG_FT_PROBE_FC10 is not set
# CONFIG_FT_ALT_FDC is not set
#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS=y
CONFIG_AFFS_FS=m
CONFIG_HFS_FS=m
CONFIG_FAT_FS=m
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m
CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS=m
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m
CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
CONFIG_MINIX_FS=m
CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m
CONFIG_HPFS_FS=m
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y
# CONFIG_ROMFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set
#
# Network File Systems
#
CONFIG_CODA_FS=m
CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
CONFIG_SUNRPC=m
CONFIG_LOCKD=m
CONFIG_SMB_FS=m
CONFIG_SMB_WIN95=y
CONFIG_NCP_FS=m
# CONFIG_NCPFS_PACKET_SIGNING is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_IOCTL_LOCKING is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_STRONG is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_NFS_NS is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_OS2_NS is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_MOUNT_SUBDIR is not set
CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION=y
#
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SMD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set
CONFIG_NLS=y
#
# Native Language Support
#
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874=m
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_6 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_7 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_9 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_15 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_R is not set
#
# Console drivers
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT is not set
#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=m
CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370=m
CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371=m
# CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m
# CONFIG_SOUND_PAS is not set
CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m
# CONFIG_SOUND_ADLIB is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_GUS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MPU401 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_PSS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_SSCAPE is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_TRIX is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MAD16 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_WAVEFRONT is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_CS4232 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_OPL3SA2 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MAUI is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_SGALAXY is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_OPL3SA1 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_SOFTOSS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_YM3812 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_VMIDI is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_UART6850 is not set
#
# Additional low level sound drivers
#
# CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND is not set
#
# Kernel hacking
#
# CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set
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From: "Usman S. Ansari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot Problem on 8.4 gig drive (x86)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:11:00 -0600
LILO does not install on a 8.4 gig IDE hard drive, please help. Details
are below.
Currently, I have Linux and other OS installed on my PC. I use LILO to
dual boot my system.
I bought a Western digital 8.4 gig drive and want to triple boot my
system Linux, Solaris and SCO. The problem is that when I install Linux
(Red Hat 5.1) on 8.4 gig drive, LILO complains that some error has
occurred. I understand that there is a limitation from PC BIOS. So after
some research, I have following setting for the BIOS.
.
.
.
Extended BIOS RAM Area DOS 1K
.
.
.
IDE auto Detect Enabled
Block mode Auto
Onboard IDE present Auto
PIO mode Auto
32 bit Mode Enabled
Primary 1st LBA Mode Enabled
My PC (before I bought WD drive) was all SCSI. Two SCSI hard disk, one
SCSI tape drive and CD-ROM. All of these are controlled by ADA 2490.
Western digital drive is IDE and I am trying to use controller on the
mother board. Since in a combined SCSI/IDE system, you have to boot from
IDE this problem aries.
Please reply all, so I get this message mailed to me.
--
Usman S. Ansari
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: Is INETD part of Apache or base Linux Networking?
Date: 7 Feb 1999 21:13:52 -0500
In article <9grv2.894$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Sisk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi:
>
>Quick question: Is the Internet Daemon INETD specifically a part of the
>Apache WebServer, or is it a basic part of the Linux networking processes?
The later.
>In other words, if Apache wasn't installed on a particular box, would INETD
>still be present and running (assuming everything was setup the normal way).
Yes.
>Another question: Assuming INETD is not specifically tied to Apache, do
>other Unix brands (Solaris, HP-UX, DEC-Unix, AIX, SCO, etc.) have an INETD
>that works the same way?
Yes.
inetd is used as a wrapper for a lot of daemons. Look into /etc/inetd.conf
for the list and into the manpage for description.
In particular, telnetd, ftpd, talkd, fingerd, identd, rshd and rlogind
are often run from inetd.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: "David Sisk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is INETD part of Apache or base Linux Networking?
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:49:49 -0500
Hi:
Quick question: Is the Internet Daemon INETD specifically a part of the
Apache WebServer, or is it a basic part of the Linux networking processes?
In other words, if Apache wasn't installed on a particular box, would INETD
still be present and running (assuming everything was setup the normal way).
Another question: Assuming INETD is not specifically tied to Apache, do
other Unix brands (Solaris, HP-UX, DEC-Unix, AIX, SCO, etc.) have an INETD
that works the same way?
Any answers appreciated. Doubly thankful if you would email as well as
posting.
Regards,
--
David C. Sisk
The Unofficial ORACLE on NT site
http://www.ipass.net/~davesisk/oont.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Is INETD part of Apache or base Linux Networking?
Date: 7 Feb 1999 21:15:28 -0500
Posted and Mailed.
In article <9grv2.894$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Sisk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-
-Hi:
-
-Quick question: Is the Internet Daemon INETD specifically a part of the
-Apache WebServer, or is it a basic part of the Linux networking processes?
INETD isn't at all related to Apache. Apache in fact usually doesn't use
INETD.
-In other words, if Apache wasn't installed on a particular box, would INETD
-still be present and running (assuming everything was setup the normal way).
Yes. INETD would still be running. It serves telnet, ftp, pop3, and other
services even if Apache isn't installed.
-
-Another question: Assuming INETD is not specifically tied to Apache, do
-other Unix brands (Solaris, HP-UX, DEC-Unix, AIX, SCO, etc.) have an INETD
-that works the same way?
Essentially.
-
-Any answers appreciated. Doubly thankful if you would email as well as
-posting.
Hope this helps,
BAJ
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Subject: Re: Is INETD part of Apache or base Linux Networking?
From: Chris Saia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Feb 1999 21:55:09 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff) writes:
> INETD isn't at all related to Apache. Apache in fact usually doesn't
> use INETD.
In fact, the Apache team strongly _discourages_ using inetd in favor
of standalone mode. :)
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Subject: Re: problems with netscape on a glibc system...
Date: 7 Feb 1999 21:05:49 -0600
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> If I had done a "ldd" on netscape I would have seen what was going
> on. Ah, live and learn. So, I just moved the libc5 libXpm.so.4.11
> over to /usr/i486-linuxlibc5/lib, reran ldconfig and, what do you
> know: don't need LD_LIBRARY_PATH anymore...
Debian 2.x supports libc5 and libc6 coexisting, and recently on the
development mailing list there was a somewhat heated discussion with
the maintainer of libtool. The issue is that libtool makes heavy use
of the "rpath" feature of the linker to force a library to be in a
particular place -- and this is incompatible with Debian's scheme.
Summary:
The libtool guy: you simply should not move shared libraries around,
for example putting a glibc /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 in place of the
libc5 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6. This violates the "contract" you
make with the apps at link time: not to replace a shlib with an
incompatible version using the same name.
The Debian people: moving directories around keeps us FSSTND-compliant
and allowed us to smoothly upgrade to libc6 -- our ld.so is up to the
job of finding dependencies without a forced rpath. The rpath feature
is useful for user-installed shlibs outside the lib path, or on OSes
whose dynamic linkers aren't flexible enough to Do the Right Thing
otherwise -- but shouldn't be used for system-installed libraries in
Linux. Our scheme works great -- except when you compile in an rpath.
Thus libtool should respect the way we do things.
The argument has gone in circles. (Probably (IMHO) Debian will end up
editing the Makefiles of all libtool-using apps to use a patched
systemwide copy somewhere.) But in any case the Debian POV applies as
well to LD_LIBRARY_PATH as to compiled-in rpath.
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Subject: Re: why does `stat' make the disk spin?
Date: 7 Feb 1999 21:11:03 -0600
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Kasper Peeters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Trying to minimize the disk access on my laptop, I noticed that a
> simple stat (2) call makes it spin after a while. There is no
> modification of the access time on the file, so I don't see why it
> has to hit the disk at all. Does ext2fs do something extra that I
> don't know about?
As someone already mentioned it is probably updating the atime of the
directories in the tree containing the file. You may be able to avoid
this by mounting the partition with "-o nodiratime" (not sure which
2.0.x kernels support this). Its cousin, "-o noatime", would probably
help even more, but access times on files are generally a lot more
useful than on directories, hence the two options.
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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